• Women and Children first
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[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34500289]Yeah I guess, that's a good point man.[/QUOTE] Yes, it is. So, just gonna ignore my post then?
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34500267]No, I am not. I would be likely to give someone else my seat, not because they were a woman, not because they were a man, but because they were a fucking person.[/QUOTE] Hey don't worry babe, I'm sure someone would give up his seat for you. You don't have to try so hard. You either "get it" or you don't. [QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34500267]And how fucking cold are you that you criticize someone for not being willing to die?[/QUOTE] It's not that that person is not willing to die. It's that that person is not willing to put another person's life ahead of his.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34500164]I can understand, how you as a woman, have a hard time understanding how one could ever possibly value someone else's life more than your own. I'm not even gonna try to explain it.[/QUOTE] Haha, oh wow.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34500595]Hey don't worry babe, I'm sure someone would give up his seat for you. You don't have to try so hard. You either "get it" or you don't. It's not that that person is not willing to die. It's that that person is not willing to put another person's life ahead of his.[/QUOTE] Don't you fucking call me 'babe'. I'm not a dainty little fucking flower. When you get down to it, [i]most people in an emergency aren't going to think like they would outside the situation.[/i] As soon as you face death your first instinct is going to be survive, not 'welp DYING TIME FOH MEEEE'.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34500642]As soon as you face death your first instinct is going to be survive, not 'welp DYING TIME FOH MEEEE'.[/QUOTE] And this is what separates the men from the transgendered boys. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - rilez))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34500735]And this is what separates the men from the transgendered boys.[/QUOTE] And THAT is what separates those with tact from those without.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34500735]And this is what separates the men from the transgendered boys.[/QUOTE] Stop saying 'men' like all men act the same way. Every person is different, and men aren't all sexist idiots so wrapped up in BEING MANLY GRRR GRR WEIGHTS AND SHIT like you are. Even by that stupid manly shit you try and force on others, you aren't even manly. You have a [i]fucking anime avatar.[/i] I hate people like you, so wrapped up in trying to be manly that you make yourself look insecure, so you have to insult other people's manliness in order to make yourself feel good. Men don't fucking exist the way you think they do. You aren't this: [img]http://rlv.zcache.com/vintage_manly_man_ipad_case_speckcase-p176575045799674240z8z6x_400.jpg[/img] You're this: [img]http://www.bestylish.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/average-guy-in-grey-t-shirt.jpg[/img] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("This has nothing to do with the debate. Report and move on." - rilez))[/highlight]
Take it easy, girlfriend. I'm one of the un-manliest fella you'll ever meet. Trust me on that one.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34501254]Take it easy, girlfriend. I'm one of the un-manliest fella you'll ever meet. Trust me on that one.[/QUOTE] Then why are you in here going "UGH THAT'S WHAT MEN DO MEN DO THIS MEN ARE TOUGH MEN MEN MEN"
Because it's true. And the time will come when you will realize it as well.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34501394]Because it's true.[/QUOTE] Really? Well, I'm eager to see your source which gives a definite factual guide on what men do, and also proves that ideas of manliness aren't subjective from person to person. I can just shout REAL MEN FUCK CHIMPANZEES and that holds about as much weight as you just saying it's totally true does.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34501394]Because it's true. And the time will come when you will realize it as well.[/QUOTE] [quote=stickied rules]One rule I would like to enforce is that if you're debating and state something as a fact - if challenged you need to produce proof. If you can't you get banned.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34501431]Really? Well, I'm eager to see your source which gives a definite factual guide on what men do, and also proves that ideas of manliness aren't subjective from person to person.[/QUOTE] "Manliness" isn't really the right word, sorry if I used it. It's just a guy thing. [QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34501431]I can just shout REAL MEN FUCK CHIMPANZEES and that holds about as much weight as you just saying it's totally true does.[/QUOTE] ._. what
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34501648]._. what[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Rad McCool;34500735]And this is what separates the men from the transgendered boys.[/QUOTE]I think you hit a berserk button with this.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34501648]"Manliness" isn't really the right word, sorry if I used it. It's just a guy thing. ._. what[/QUOTE] waiting for a source that it is factually a guy thing
1 week ago: [QUOTE=Rad McCool;34350317]I would put my life ahead of anyone else's. I think we all are obligated to.[/QUOTE] today: [QUOTE=Rad McCool;34498112]If you're a man and you don't agree with "women and children first" then you are nothing more than a [B]coward[/B]. It has nothing to do with what's best for the species. A single accident won't affect humanity at all. It's about being a man. Your duty is to protect the weak. Don't be fucking cowards.[/QUOTE] What happened in the last week to make you change your mind completely?
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34501742]waiting for a source that it is factually a guy thing[/QUOTE] I'm sorry I don't know how I'm supposed to prove this? [QUOTE=Rents;34501679]I think you hit a berserk button with this.[/QUOTE] Yeah, just for the record, I'm just messing around of course. [QUOTE=st0rmforce;34501875]What happened in the last week to make you change your mind completely?[/QUOTE] I changed my mind completely? I think those two statements agree with each other. Or what do you mean?
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34502036]I changed my mind completely? I think those two statements agree with each other. Or what do you mean?[/QUOTE] Uhh, you went from a "selfish", "cowardly" putting your own safety first to proclaiming your "duty to protect the weak".
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34502036]I'm sorry I don't know how I'm supposed to prove this?[/QUOTE] You figure it out, if it's such a fact then I'm sure there must be proof. That is unless it's not a fact at all and you just think your opinion is fact. [QUOTE=Rad McCool;34502036]Yeah, just for the record, I'm just messing around of course.[/QUOTE] Trolling is bannable.
Oh shit... now I see it. That.. doesn't sound too good. Of course what I meant was that I would put anybody else's life ahead of mine. Not the other way around.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34498112]If you're a man and you don't agree with "women and children first" then you are nothing more than a [B]coward[/B]. It has nothing to do with what's best for the species. A single accident won't affect humanity at all. It's about being a man. Your duty is to protect the weak. Don't be fucking cowards.[/QUOTE] Exactly when did it become the duty of every man to 'protect the weak'?
It's not trolling, it's messing around! What is this, the gentlemen's club?
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34502204]It's not trolling, it's messing around! What is this, the gentlemen's club?[/QUOTE] You said something with the obvious intention of sounding like an asshole to piss me off (which you did) It's the exact same reason big strong douchebags who use their strength to intimidate you then giggling like an idiot and saying they're just messing with you isn't cool at all.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34502204]It's not trolling, it's messing around! What is this, the gentlemen's club?[/QUOTE] No, this is the Mass Debate forums, usually when you say something in a debate, we all expect you to somehow back up your argument with logical facts so we can take it seriously.
Hey, I'm sorry.
Gender roles/stereotypes as a whole are stupid and outdated. They served a purpose, but they don't anymore.
Children first because they have their entire lives ahead of them But I don't know about women first in a disaster related situation.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34500164]I can understand, how you as a woman, have a hard time understanding how one could ever possibly value someone else's life more than your own. I'm not even gonna try to explain it.[/QUOTE] Well I am a woman and I don't understand how my life is more valuable than a man's. Of course on a purely selfish basis I would want to survive but looking at the big picture I don't think it's fair that men should be made expendable, this isn't like opening a door for a woman (although I think people should do this for everyone) but asking people to let themselves die. If a man does this by his own choice then its his own choice but being forced to let yourself die because of an old fashioned social principle isn't fair and picturing myself in that position is horrific. This isn't a world of "perfect" heroes who could sacrifice themselves for a stranger without questioning it once, it's a world of regular people who don't want to die.
[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;34507254]Well I am a woman and I don't understand how my life is more valuable than a man's. Of course on a purely selfish basis I would want to survive but looking at the big picture I don't think it's fair that men should be made expendable, this isn't like opening a door for a woman (although I think people should do this for everyone) but asking people to let themselves die. If a man does this by his own choice then its his own choice but being forced to let yourself die because of an old fashioned social principle isn't fair and picturing myself in that position is horrific. This isn't a world of "perfect" heroes who could sacrifice themselves for a stranger without questioning it once, it's a world of regular people who don't want to die.[/QUOTE] I wish I could rate you a thousand agrees and winners. You have said exactly what I've wanted to state.
In my honest opinion, I think the children should be evacuated first. Everything else is free-game as far as whos the next person to get on the life-boats. A human is a human. People are people.
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