• Illuminati does it exist?
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[QUOTE=bluebeam9001;32990316]Illuminati is no fucking conspiracy theory, Michael Jackson told the world about them exposing them, they killed him. 2Pac told the world about them through his music, they also killed him. -snip-[/QUOTE] Don't you think its more than just that? Metaphorical? It doesn't have to be literal you know. [QUOTE=bluebeam9001;32990346]Tell me the Illuminati's logo is coincidently on the 1 dollar bill: -snip-[/QUOTE] Now your just being insane. Seriously, people look at anything they can find and use it to point towards this, and blow it far bigger than it possibly and logically could be. Even if it exists, summoning up this schizophrenic idea's makes it seem much bigger than it really is.
The Illuminati is just some sect.
[QUOTE=J!NX;32990418]Now your just being insane.[/QUOTE] I was being sarcastic, the government is controlled by the Illuminati.
i remember a video of bush saying in a speech that they are building a new world order somehwere from the 90's cant find the video though
[QUOTE=Wilford Brimley;32990323]its ture peopel reptilans are coruppting are yuoth!!11!1!!1!! rap urself in tin foyl so thay dont frie ur brane!!11!!!!![/QUOTE] De mediea said ppl like dis are stupit. I must belive dem now xDDD
[QUOTE=bluebeam9001;32990447]I was being sarcastic, the government is controlled by the Illuminati.[/QUOTE] You were saying its controlled by the government seriously but at the same time your sarcastic? Which one are you being?
[QUOTE=J!NX;32990476]You were saying its controlled by the government seriously but at the same time your sarcastic? Which one are you being?[/QUOTE] The [B]government is controlled[/B] by the [B]illuminati[/B]. [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Knuffelbeer;32990449]i remember a video of bush saying in a speech that they are building a new world order somehwere from the 90's cant find the video though[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo[/media]
suprises me i am the first to make a thread which contains illuminati
The way I see it, fake. Symbolism? Bullshit. What kind of super secret society leaves hidden clues all over the place. That's like the US Government holding a scavenger hunt to find the truth about Aliens / Spying Ops / Illegal Dealings / etc.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;32991352]The way I see it, fake. Symbolism? Bullshit. What kind of super secret society leaves hidden clues all over the place. That's like the US Government holding a scavenger hunt to find the truth about Aliens / Spying Ops / Illegal Dealings / etc.[/QUOTE] those arent clues they are made for our sub conscious mind its made for us to not notice it but everything we see our sub conscious mind picks it up even when you dindt noticed it
bilderberg group probably controls the world
They're a cool sci-fi/thriller plot element, and nothing more. That said, the Bavarian Illuminati was totally real, but they don't exist any more. [editline]27th October 2011[/editline] I think it'd be pretty cool to be an Illuminati member. [editline]27th October 2011[/editline] Obligatory video, spoilers for Deus Ex [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5hwYiREY8s[/media]
No.
if it did exist, alex jones wouldn't know / would be a part of it because of how much he incites fear and makes money off of it my personal belief is that the NWO and illuminati doesn't exist in the flesh but like so many other things taken literally today like religion, is merely a metaphorical representation of the world we live in today. so much money is moved around so quickly in the face of massive corporations that it's as if we are run by the monetary system and greed as a whole. don't take this as a truly serious idea but it could be that instead of a group of elite CEOs wanting to kill us, instead it is just the underlying fear that we are powerless to greed and money at the end of the day
[QUOTE=Bobie;32991649]if it did exist, alex jones wouldn't know / would be a part of it because of how much he incites fear and makes money off of it my personal belief is that the NWO and illuminati doesn't exist in the flesh but like so many other things taken literally today like religion, is merely a metaphorical representation of the world we live in today. so much money is moved around so quickly in the face of massive corporations that it's as if we are run by the monetary system and greed as a whole. don't take this as a truly serious idea but it could be that instead of a group of elite CEOs wanting to kill us, instead it is just the underlying fear that we are powerless to greed and money at the end of the day[/QUOTE] not really
[QUOTE=Bobie;32991649]if it did exist, alex jones wouldn't know / would be a part of it because of how much he incites fear and makes money off of it my personal belief is that the NWO and illuminati doesn't exist in the flesh but like so many other things taken literally today like religion, is merely a metaphorical representation of the world we live in today. so much money is moved around so quickly in the face of massive corporations that it's as if we are run by the monetary system and greed as a whole. don't take this as a truly serious idea but it could be that instead of a group of elite CEOs wanting to kill us, instead it is just the underlying fear that we are powerless to greed and money at the end of the day[/QUOTE] Alex Jones is a one-sided psychopath who needs to get shut up, to be perfectly honest.
[QUOTE=Chekko;32989911]So you're not allowed to question the government? Alright.[/QUOTE] I think it's hilarious that you drew a conclusion completely unrelated to the actual content of his post.
[QUOTE=Knuffelbeer;32991729]not really[/QUOTE] care to explain why not? i mean, this is mass debate. not mass statement
Oh boy here we go again. I doubt they exist. As said Mr. Someguy on the first page, what kind of secret organization would let clues all over the place ? It makes no sense. If they want to go all subliminal up our asses, it's certainly not with dollar bills you are barely ever giving a shit about (you just take it out of your wallet and buy shit with it) that you'll manage to convince anyone. Plus, why would they actually convince people ? The point of secret organization is that they operate in secret, aka WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING. If their plan is to take over the world, being spotted without even getting near your goal makes you a very awful secret organization. Secret organizations were in the first place groups that were secret because of persecutions and censorship. Most of them did help setting revolutions in place, which explains symbolism on, for example, dollar bills. The eye is a common symbol for god, and the omnipresence of the number 13 is just because superstition says it's a lucky number and also a god related one - there also are 13 stripes on the American flag, just because it goes with the same idea of symbolism and going for an intellectual countries based on smart symbols as the goal was to clearly show a difference between the old simple authoritarian nations and the new ones where people are free to think and be intelligent. May I remind you the Illuminati is basically taken from the Bavarian Illuminati, which was a secret organization that based its ideology on the Enlightened movement going on in France ? There is nothing evil or conspiratorial or world-domination-related here, it's just a bunch of intellectuals who once existed and are now nothing but names in history books.
[QUOTE=Knuffelbeer;32991572]those arent clues they are made for our sub conscious mind its made for us to not notice it but everything we see our sub conscious mind picks it up even when you dindt noticed it[/QUOTE] if "subconscious" and subliminal advertising had any of the power conspiracy theorists attribute to it in their excuse for finding symbolism where it doesn't exist, we'd definitely see regimes like north Korea using it for indoctrinating nationalism, but we don't; why? because it's not effective also; freemasonry is just one of the many groups formed in the 16th century by nobility, its a prestigious club like the French Ordre national de la Légion d'honneur, any rumors of their "power" were and still are greatly exaggerated by people who want the hubris feeling of holding the forbidden apple of knowledge [editline]27th October 2011[/editline] is the teutonic order because of it's secrecy also bent on world domination? [url]http://www.imperialteutonicorder.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;32991352]The way I see it, fake. Symbolism? Bullshit. What kind of super secret society leaves hidden clues all over the place. That's like the US Government holding a scavenger hunt to find the truth about Aliens / Spying Ops / Illegal Dealings / etc.[/QUOTE] The point of them is so everyone gets used to them and subconsciously influences you. By having all the stuff hidden in plain sight people will think anyone who believes it is crazy, which is what they want i guess.
If the Illuminati do exist as a bunch of frumpy dudes in suits trying to make money and do other bad shit, they're A: retarded enough to put clues everywhere, B: not powerful enough to stop the Occupy protests, which essentially amount to sitting down somewhere for a day or two, and C: they can't stop a games company from popularising their name. This should tell you a lot. Seriously, if anything the Illuminati are probably small store owners in comparison to the scale they're meant to be acting on. Dumb, useless, and powerless. They're hardly a new world order.
I believe the illuminati are a not so secret society. However, it is impossible to point a member out in the crowd. I also don't believe that these are all a bunch of old men in a club house plotting to rule the world. Membes of the illuminati are embedded in society, and are the reason why there are the occupy wallstreet protests. The illuminati are rich people, embedded in our cabinet, embedded in our justice system, embedded in our government. It's my belief that it's their job as a cumulative entity to push their own regime little by little into society. Through the use of passing bills the take freedoms away from people( ie, the bills to constrict freedom of speech on the internet), through the use of starting wars with other nations, even down to running your fox news and CNN that literally spoon feeds the entire country propaganda, non stop 24/7.
[QUOTE=Magistrate;32992152]if "subconscious" and subliminal advertising had any of the power conspiracy theorists attribute to it in their excuse for finding symbolism where it doesn't exist, we'd definitely see regimes like north Korea using it for indoctrinating nationalism, but we don't; why? because it's not effective also; freemasonry is just one of the many groups formed in the 16th century by nobility, its a prestigious club like the French Ordre national de la Légion d'honneur, any rumors of their "power" were and still are greatly exaggerated by people who want the hubris feeling of holding the forbidden apple of knowledge [editline]27th October 2011[/editline] is the teutonic order because of it's secrecy also bent on world domination? [url]http://www.imperialteutonicorder.com/[/url][/QUOTE] No because the illuminati's intentions are to have world domination the illuminati are the highest rank in freemasonry they are obsessed with the occult. one of the highest of the illuminati "david rockefeller" who even admitted to be in such a group in a interview. and al the other presidents and vatican calling for a new world order they are the richest and most powerful families in the world the symbols are clearly not fantasy even in the music video of RIhanna S and m there you see for 1 or 2 seconds a text where she calls herself the illuminati princess
[QUOTE=Knuffelbeer;32992914]No because the illuminati's intentions are to have world domination the illuminati are the highest rank in freemasonry they are obsessed with the occult. one of the highest of the illuminati "david rockefeller" who even admitted to be in such a group in a interview. and al the other presidents and vatican calling for a new world order they are the richest and most powerful families in the world the symbols are clearly not fantasy even in the music video of RIhanna S and m there you see for 1 or 2 seconds a text where she calls herself the illuminati princess[/QUOTE] Did you seriously just use a Rihanna music video as evidence of connections with the Illuminati? Anyways, the Freemasons are nothing special. I actually know a Freemason, and while he can get away with minor crimes, he's still more or less a frail old man with little power. If the Illuminati are in any way connected, I can assure you they are powerless to control the world.
[QUOTE=Cone;32993006]Did you seriously just use a Rihanna music video as evidence of connections with the Illuminati? Anyways, the Freemasons are nothing special. I actually know a Freemason, and while he can get away with minor crimes, he's still more or less a frail old man with little power. If the Illuminati are in any way connected, I can assure you they are powerless to control the world.[/QUOTE] Do a little research on the freemasons. Anybody can be a freemason if they know the right people. What most people don't know, is that freemasonry has 32 tiers of operations. This is like a hierarchy. The lowest tier being number 1 and the highest tier being 32. A member jumps tiers by furthering the high tier agenda. If you are in the freemasons, and you are a part of the low tier, anything under 18, you won't even know anything about what the the freemasons do. All they will tell you is that they are a brotherhood and that is it.
[QUOTE=Cone;32993006]Did you seriously just use a Rihanna music video as evidence of connections with the Illuminati? Anyways, the Freemasons are nothing special. I actually know a Freemason, and while he can get away with minor crimes, he's still more or less a frail old man with little power. If the Illuminati are in any way connected, I can assure you they are powerless to control the world.[/QUOTE] no i used it as an example and so? freemasonry have ranks only the highest of ranks know or are part of the illuminati some people say oo i know a freemason and they are nothing special. how higher you get in freemasonry how more things become secret
Great Power takes Great responsibility. Even if they exist, and run the world, It certainly isn't that bad, since we are not falling apart, are we? So basically, it looks like they have this responsibility. Even assuming they are abusing their power somehow, it still could be a lot worse. In a rather fictional case, a world war would happen, which would bring very big fortune to the pockets of those who "Run the world". And such things don't really happen. I doubt that controlling a whole planet is possible though. At least not by one person, actually, not even a thousand.
[QUOTE=proch;32993670]Great Power takes Great responsibility. Even if they exist, and run the world, It certainly isn't that bad, since we are not falling apart, are we? So basically, it looks like they have this responsibility. Even assuming they are abusing their power somehow, it still could be a lot worse. In a rather fictional case, a world war would happen, which would bring very big fortune to the pockets of those who "Run the world". And such things don't really happen. I doubt that controlling a whole planet is possible though. At least not by one person, actually, not even a thousand.[/QUOTE] Not by one person, of course. A puppet government would be placed in ever country. All currencies would be scrapped and the new currency would be completely electronic. Even if it sounds like a good thing. Nothing good can come from a single force ruling over the entire world. It might be nice to say, if there was a one world government, there would be no war! however, war, or threat of war is only a tool countries use to keep other countries in check. When there is no threat, and only one leader, that leader is free to do what ever he or she wants. And that will nearly always mean revocation of human rights and freedoms just to make governing everyone easier.
[QUOTE=Chekko;32990462]De mediea said ppl like dis are stupit. I must belive dem now xDDD[/QUOTE] So do you seriously beleive it exists or are you just trying to start a flame war.
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