• Gays v2 - really, there's nothing wrong with them
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Other thread was locked, continue debate in here. [quote]Hello, today I am here to discuss the "most awful thing to walk our planet", the Gays. What is my opinion on them? They're humans. They're like us and in my opinion they should be treated as if they were no different. Who they like should not conflict with how you treat them (respect wise, as if you were to treat a gay navy officer the same as a straight navy officer). This debate has been going on in threads like "same-sex marriage", but I think this is more specific on the one homosexuality concept. I believe we should treat gay's as if nothing were different about them. Give me your opinion, Facepunch. (sorry, title mess up, didn't read it. should be "what's wrong with them") [/quote] Really, guys, there is nothing wrong with homosexuals. (this thread is for general debate on why they're so commonly hated, what's wrong with them, ect) fuck i swear is it their or there i'm terrible when it comes to grammar + titles
Is it really necessary to debate. I don't see facepunch as having a big conservative christian population so who would really oppose your statement?
[QUOTE=Mudbone;34567160]Is it really necessary to debate. I don't see facepunch as having a big conservative christian population so who would really oppose your statement?[/QUOTE] Go to the old thread and see how many people disagree with each other.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;34567160]Is it really necessary to debate. I don't see facepunch as having a big conservative christian population so who would really oppose your statement?[/QUOTE] 99% of us are far from your typical Christian Conservative but our opinions still differ greatly.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;34567160]Is it really necessary to debate. I don't see facepunch as having a big conservative christian population so who would really oppose your statement?[/QUOTE] Religion does not necessarily indicate homophobia/homophobic attitudes. See: Russia and Japan.
Christian Conservative here gays are bad m'kay
[highlight]If there's nothing wrong with gays, how about we allow pedophiles to violate our children.[/highlight] [B]Say hello to Father John and his boyfriend[/B] [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JnCUXFEdVus/S9ZY7w2kTJI/AAAAAAAABWE/2EUovEAYzWY/s1600/3641_1821_dirty-priest-costume1.jpg[/img] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("This isn't how you post in Mass Debate" - Swebonny))[/highlight]
As with all people, I don't mind them.
[QUOTE=Mr. Creeper;34567758][highlight]If there's nothing wrong with gays, how about we allow pedophiles to violate our children.[/highlight] [B]Say hello to Father John and his boyfriend[/B] [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JnCUXFEdVus/S9ZY7w2kTJI/AAAAAAAABWE/2EUovEAYzWY/s1600/3641_1821_dirty-priest-costume1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] There's a difference between being pedophile and child rapist, just saiyan.
I'm wondering if half the people in this thread so far are serious or not.
[QUOTE=Crimor;34567862]There's a difference between being pedophile and child rapist, just saiyan.[/QUOTE] yeah, pedophiles can't help being the way they are
[QUOTE=Captain Lawlrus;34568247]yeah, pedophiles can't help being the way they are[/QUOTE] Also the child may want to be with the pedophile.
[QUOTE=Captain Lawlrus;34568247]yeah, pedophiles can't help being the way they are[/QUOTE] I don't think I will ever find myself respecting pedophiles beyond admitting they have a serious mental disorder.
[QUOTE=Mr. Creeper;34568303]Also the child may want to be with the pedophile.[/QUOTE] One could argue that children don't have to mental capacity to make such decisions, and that child molesters take advantage of this.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;34568508]I don't think I will ever find myself respecting pedophiles beyond admitting they have a serious mental disorder.[/QUOTE] A serious mental disorder according to modern society. Throughout many other periods of history common things today in the past would be seen as mental disorders, or vice versa.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;34568508]I don't think I will ever find myself respecting pedophiles beyond admitting they have a serious mental disorder.[/QUOTE] The same could be said about homosexuals by some.
[QUOTE=Captain Lawlrus;34568613]The same could be said about homosexuals by some.[/QUOTE] The argument against pedophilia is that it causes those effected by it to be attracted to those who may lack the capacity to make a good decision, thus being taken advantage of. This argument cannot be made against homosexuality, it is two consenting adults.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;34568654]The argument against pedophilia is that it causes those effected by it to be attracted to those who may lack the capacity to make a good decision, thus being taken advantage of. This argument cannot be made against homosexuality, it is two consenting adults.[/QUOTE] You're making the mistake of believing all pedophiles are child molesters, and that simply isn't the case.
pedophilia =/= homosexuality child rapist =/= homosexuality
The only thing that bugs me is how quickly they label someone a bigot. In high school, a few gay couples used to go up in the middle of the school and make out. No, not just make out, that's an understatement, they were dry humping basically against the walls, grabbing each others asses and shoving their tongues down eachother's throats, girls were kissing the top of eachother's tits and the guys were grabbing eachother's junk. I asked them to stop, save it for the bedroom or just go somewhere else to do it. They quickly labelled me a bigot and told me I was promoting hate. I've told the same thing to straight couples all the time there. Just because your different does not give you the ability to go do that shit in front of people. I have no problem with gays, but when they use it as a defense for their behavior and then label people hate promoters, then it's crossed the line. You fight so hard to be treated like everyone else, then you receive the treatment and claim it's hate.
[QUOTE=Gundevil;34569056]The only thing that bugs me is how quickly they label someone a bigot. In high school, a few gay couples used to go up in the middle of the school and make out. No, not just make out, that's an understatement, they were dry humping basically against the walls, grabbing each others asses and shoving their tongues down eachother's throats, girls were kissing the top of eachother's tits and the guys were grabbing eachother's junk. I asked them to stop, save it for the bedroom or just go somewhere else to do it. They quickly labelled me a bigot and told me I was promoting hate. I've told the same thing to straight couples all the time there. Just because your different does not give you the ability to go do that shit in front of people. I have no problem with gays, but when they use it as a defense for their behavior and then label people hate promoters, then it's crossed the line. You fight so hard to be treated like everyone else, then you receive the treatment and claim it's hate.[/QUOTE] I do the same and that also happens at my school. Just because you're gay doesn't give you the right to fuck in public while a straight couple can be disgraced for it.
[QUOTE=Gundevil;34569056]The only thing that bugs me is how quickly they label someone a bigot. In high school, a few gay couples used to go up in the middle of the school and make out. No, not just make out, that's an understatement, they were dry humping basically against the walls, grabbing each others asses and shoving their tongues down eachother's throats, girls were kissing the top of eachother's tits and the guys were grabbing eachother's junk. I asked them to stop, save it for the bedroom or just go somewhere else to do it. They quickly labelled me a bigot and told me I was promoting hate. I've told the same thing to straight couples all the time there. Just because your different does not give you the ability to go do that shit in front of people. I have no problem with gays, but when they use it as a defense for their behavior and then label people hate promoters, then it's crossed the line. You fight so hard to be treated like everyone else, then you receive the treatment and claim it's hate.[/QUOTE] Unless they're in your way, I don't see why you should care in the first place.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;34568575]A serious mental disorder according to modern society. Throughout many other periods of history common things today in the past would be seen as mental disorders, or vice versa.[/QUOTE] I'm not disgusted by pedophiles, but by those that have no self-control and become child molesters. Being a pedophile is not some horrible disorder, no more than someone getting their rocks off to feet is.
[QUOTE=Gundevil;34569056]The only thing that bugs me is how quickly they label someone a bigot. In high school, a few gay couples used to go up in the middle of the school and make out. No, not just make out, that's an understatement, they were dry humping basically against the walls, grabbing each others asses and shoving their tongues down eachother's throats, girls were kissing the top of eachother's tits and the guys were grabbing eachother's junk. I asked them to stop, save it for the bedroom or just go somewhere else to do it. They quickly labelled me a bigot and told me I was promoting hate. I've told the same thing to straight couples all the time there. Just because your different does not give you the ability to go do that shit in front of people. I have no problem with gays, but when they use it as a defense for their behavior and then label people hate promoters, then it's crossed the line. You fight so hard to be treated like everyone else, then you receive the treatment and claim it's hate.[/QUOTE] learn to ignore things
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;34568914]pedophilia =/= homosexuality child rapist =/= homosexuality[/QUOTE] Uhhh, yes it does... If you rape a child that's a boy, and you're a man, that's homosexual. "BUT BUT BUT THEY'RE KIDS" The child is a boy. You're a man. How is this any difference from a male rapist raping a man? "YEAH BUT HE'S NOT ACTUALLY GAY HE JUST WANTED TO RAPE A BOY THAT'S ALL." Oh, okay. Not gay at all. Same thing goes if you're a woman raping a child that's a girl. Homosexual.
[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;34568699]You're making the mistake of believing all pedophiles are child molesters, and that simply isn't the case.[/QUOTE] I was stating the general argument, I never specified it as being my own belief.
Any person who does not inflict harm to other peoples freedom should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want. If someone wants to engage in sexual acts with people of their own gender, if someone wants to kill themself, if someone wants to get high on heroin, if someone wants to have fictional friends - or even if some do not. Why the [b]fuck[/b] should you care!? I don't get what drives people to keep others from doing what they want most!? Even if what that person wants most is getting buttfucked, you shouldn't do shit, 'cause you're not the one with a dick up your ass, and how does sodomy inflict harm to others anyway!?
[QUOTE=HateThyKing;34569831]Uhhh, yes it does... If you rape a child that's a boy, and you're a man, that's homosexual. "BUT BUT BUT THEY'RE KIDS" The child is a boy. You're a man. How is this any difference from a male rapist raping a man? "YEAH BUT HE'S NOT ACTUALLY GAY HE JUST WANTED TO RAPE A BOY THAT'S ALL." Oh, okay. Not gay at all. Same thing goes if you're a woman raping a child that's a girl. Homosexual.[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you talking about? He meant that this is a thread about homosexuality, not pedophilia. Pedophiles aren't always gay, and gays aren't always pedophiles. They're obviously two completely separate things.
[QUOTE=HateThyKing;34569831]Uhhh, yes it does... If you rape a child that's a boy, and you're a man, that's homosexual. "BUT BUT BUT THEY'RE KIDS" The child is a boy. You're a man. How is this any difference from a male rapist raping a man? "YEAH BUT HE'S NOT ACTUALLY GAY HE JUST WANTED TO RAPE A BOY THAT'S ALL." Oh, okay. Not gay at all. Same thing goes if you're a woman raping a child that's a girl. Homosexual.[/QUOTE] You do realize that all rapists aren't homosexuals. Pedophilia is a general interest in little kids of both genders normally.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;34569130]Unless they're in your way, I don't see why you should care in the first place.[/QUOTE] Full on action in public is not acceptable regardless of sexuality, and it's even worse for people who disagree with homosexuality. Nobody wants to see a girl and a guy dry humping in the street, never mind guy on guy. This has never been acceptable behaviour. [QUOTE=Mudbone;34567160]Is it really necessary to debate. I don't see facepunch as having a big conservative christian population so who would really oppose your statement?[/QUOTE] I try to debate with these people but I always get labelled as a troll/bigot instantly for disagreeing and end up getting banned.
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