• The Republican Debate
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I noticed there weren't any threads on this so I decided to make one. What did you guys think?
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We should continue to have a monarchy.
I assure you not all of them are evil, misguided, fag-hating, anti-science bigots. Just look at me, my best friend is homosexual [i]and[/i] liberal. But seriously, we're not all that bad.
[QUOTE=sonny99;32464692]I assure you not all of them are evil, misguided, fag-hating, anti-science bigots. Just look at me, my best friend is homosexual [i]and[/i] liberal. But seriously, we're not all that bad.[/QUOTE] And for what reason would you honestly support the GOP at this point in time?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32465712]And for what reason would you honestly support the GOP at this point in time?[/QUOTE] because the gop wants low taxes and taxes r ewil its true ronald reagan told me
I personally think the only somewhat respectable candidate at this point is Ron Paul. He's not trying to get evolution taken out of our biology textbooks, or ban pornography, or whatever stupid campaigns everyone else is coming up with.
[QUOTE=SNNS-SEAN;32465937]I personally think the only somewhat respectable candidate at this point is Ron Paul. He's not trying to get evolution taken out of our biology textbooks, or ban pornography, or whatever stupid campaigns everyone else is coming up with.[/QUOTE] I don't think i've heard them say they want to completely remove evolution. Thought it was only have creationism taught side by side. Though I wouldn't doubt Bachmann saying something stupid like that.
everything i heard was awful It's kind of disgusting just how entwined the republican party and fox/conservative media are. You listen to one candidate and they say the same thing that Hannity says on Fox and Neal Boortz says on the radio. It's essentailly one entity. and they think the democrats have big government [editline]24th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SNNS-SEAN;32465937]I personally think the only somewhat respectable candidate at this point is Ron Paul. He's not trying to get evolution taken out of our biology textbooks, or ban pornography, or whatever stupid campaigns everyone else is coming up with.[/QUOTE] paul is objectively an idiot on social and foreign policy
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32464585]We should continue to have a monarchy.[/QUOTE] That isn't relevant to the debate. [QUOTE=sonny99;32464692]I assure you not all of them are evil, misguided, fag-hating, anti-science bigots. Just look at me, my best friend is homosexual [i]and[/i] liberal. But seriously, we're not all that bad.[/QUOTE] This doesn't add anything to the discussion. Surely anyone who believes the Republican stereotype are themselves bigots. [QUOTE=Megafanx13;32465712]And for what reason would you honestly support the GOP at this point in time?[/QUOTE] Can't really see any reason at all for supporting Democrats either. The best situation I could see happening is the GOP getting voted in and then the antiwar left coming back from its slumber and forcing an end to these wars and the repeal to the Patriot act. Really the only candidates I can support at all are Johnson and Paul, and they are libertarians running on the Republican platform, which is the closest to third party you can get. [QUOTE=joes33431;32465828]because the gop wants low taxes and taxes r ewil its true ronald reagan told me[/QUOTE] Not only are you not capable of understanding why the GOP would want to lower taxes, but you aren't capable of typing a coherent sentence. [QUOTE=SNNS-SEAN;32465937]I personally think the only somewhat respectable candidate at this point is Ron Paul. He's not trying to get evolution taken out of our biology textbooks, or ban pornography, or whatever stupid campaigns everyone else is coming up with.[/QUOTE] Garry Johnson is pretty respectable and is very similar to Paul. People tend to forget about him because the media does. [QUOTE=OvB;32466428]I don't think i've heard them say they want to completely remove evolution. Thought it was only have creationism taught side by side. Though I wouldn't doubt Bachmann saying something stupid like that.[/QUOTE] A good number of the candidates support the local community deciding this as opposed to the Federal Government. So you might have a vote in your state or local community to decide. Their idea is that the more local, the better. The majority of them believe this if I remember right from one of the debates, though I do believe Bachmann and Pawlenty did not. [QUOTE=DOG-GY;32466459]everything i heard was awful It's kind of disgusting just how entwined the republican party and fox/conservative media are. You listen to one candidate and they say the same thing that Hannity says on Fox and Neal Boortz says on the radio. It's essentailly one entity. and they think the democrats have big government [editline]24th September 2011[/editline] paul is objectively an idiot on social and foreign policy[/QUOTE] This is quite an awful post as you aren't really saying anything. Make an argument. More specifically, what is wrong with Ron Paul's social and foreign policy? Go into detail, as just calling it stupid only gives information about your opinion.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;32466459] It's kind of disgusting just how entwined the republican party and fox/conservative media are. You listen to one candidate and they say the same thing that Hannity says on Fox and Neal Boortz says on the radio. It's essentailly one entity.[/QUOTE]Good grief, it's almost as if the Republicans all have the same political views! Why, they ought to join together in a group... maybe we could call it a 'party'!
[QUOTE=Pepin;32466729]Really the only candidates I can support at all are Johnson and Paul, and they are libertarians running on the Republican platform, which is the closest to third party you can get.[/QUOTE] I've heard Gary Johnson say some things I agree with, and a lot of things I disagree with. The things I agree with tend to be me liking his intent or liking a non-specific statement, where as the things I disagree with are very specific.
[QUOTE=OvB;32466428]I don't think i've heard them say they want to completely remove evolution. Thought it was only have creationism taught side by side. Though I wouldn't doubt Bachmann saying something stupid like that.[/QUOTE] This is how it works man. They could never make that jump to having evolution NOT taught, and creationism taught. So they try to get them both. They would absolutely LOVE to have just creationism taught.
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32464585]We should continue to have a monarchy.[/QUOTE]I'm a republican so I prefer having the head of state elected. Having heriditary positions is undemocratical and antiquated.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32467935]This is how it works man. They could never make that jump to having evolution NOT taught, and creationism taught. So they try to get them both. They would absolutely LOVE to have just creationism taught.[/QUOTE] I think their actual goal is to make schools private so schools have the option to teach religion, not to actually force it in schools.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;32479031]I think their actual goal is to make schools private so schools have the option to teach religion, not to actually force it in schools.[/QUOTE] mmm I dunno... Seems like they have TWO goals 1. Make 'em private 2. Make 'em all teach Creationism
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;32470055]I'm a republican so I prefer having the head of state elected. Having heriditary positions is undemocratical and antiquated.[/QUOTE] I'd rather not see Gingrich elected for that reason. He's a career politician, which is the modern equivalent to royalty. As far as I'm concerned, they live their entire lives learning how to order people around.
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;32470055]I'm a republican so I prefer having the head of state elected. Having heriditary positions is undemocratical and antiquated.[/QUOTE] I presume you mean "Republican" in the sense that you want a republic to be the type of country you live in, not "American Republican".
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32479108]I'd rather not see Gingrich elected for that reason. He's a career politician, which is the modern equivalent to royalty. As far as I'm concerned, they live their entire lives learning how to order people around.[/QUOTE] Then you might as well just not vote, they're all career politicians. Many of them just happen to be bad at it.
[QUOTE=s0beit;32479182]Then you might as well just not vote, they're all career politicians. Many of them just happen to be bad at it.[/QUOTE] And then someone you want even less gets elected anyway?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32479254]And then someone you want even less gets elected anyway?[/QUOTE] They're both career politicians, following his logic he should still not vote at all. I'm pointing out that not electing people because being a politician is their career isn't exactly sound logic.
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;32470055]I'm a republican so I prefer having the head of state elected. Having heriditary positions is undemocratical and antiquated.[/QUOTE] We're discussing the American Republican Party, which is associated with social and economic conservatism, e.g. churches, low taxes (esp. on the rich), etc.
[QUOTE=s0beit;32479282]They're both career politicians, following his logic he should still not vote at all. I'm pointing out that not electing people because being a politician is their career isn't exactly sound logic.[/QUOTE] Ah, I see.
[QUOTE=s0beit;32479282]They're both career politicians, following his logic he should still not vote at all. I'm pointing out that not electing people because being a politician is their career isn't exactly sound logic.[/QUOTE] I'm much more interested in people who have had success in the "real" world, like Romney or Cain. Ideally though, I'd like to see Ron Paul win. In my mind, Bachmann is just as bad as Obama, and Gingrich can't even keep his campaign out of debt.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32479487]I'm much more interested in people who have had success in the "real" world, like Romney or Cain. Ideally though, I'd like to see Ron Paul win. In my mind, Bachmann is just as bad as Obama, and Gingrich can't even keep his campaign out of debt.[/QUOTE] So you mean you want them to have some form of real world business experience? That's a little more understandable. I can agree with this, although that alone doesn't make them good politicians (Some business owners are clinically insane) however I am wholly aware of the "academic" problem. I don't really like academics who have never had any real career to speak of talking down on people in the real world. They're secluded and buried in theory.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32479487]I'm much more interested in people who have had success in the "real" world, like Romney or Cain. Ideally though, I'd like to see Ron Paul win. In my mind, Bachmann is just as bad as Obama, and Gingrich can't even keep his campaign out of debt.[/QUOTE] Did you seriously just say that Bachmann and Obama are on the same level of bad?
Personaly, I am really tired of being called an evil racist bigot for not wanting welfair.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32480477]Did you seriously just say that Bachmann and Obama are on the same level of bad?[/QUOTE] They're both extremely incompetent, so yes, I did.
[QUOTE='[sluggo];32480496']Personaly, I am really tired of being called an evil racist bigot for not wanting welfair.[/QUOTE]You know the solution to that, don't you?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32480477]Did you seriously just say that Bachmann and Obama are on the same level of bad?[/QUOTE] They may as well be. Bachmann for being batshit insane and Obama for sucking her and other republicans' metaphorical dicks.
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