• Metallica V2
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That was unsurprisingly unfunny
thats the point i copy pasted it from youtube. the keyword being youtube aka im trying to tell the person who posted it its fucking retard
[QUOTE=gerbile5;28212953]thats the point i copy pasted it from youtube. the keyword being youtube aka im trying to tell the person who posted it its fucking retard[/QUOTE] Now how does that work? You're trying to tell a youtube user that he is a retard by posting something he posted on a forum he will never go to? I don't get it.
Hetfield is a great songwriter, being religious might be cool then cause he lived in religious family. Lars Ulrich doesn't suck on drums, I think all the "drummers" around here know what improvising is which Lars does pretty well.
Does anyone else think the Big 4 should do something similar to that Roadrunner United All-Star Sessions thing? I think it'd be fucking awesome to have them working together like that.
Metallica are on Warner Slayer are on Sony Megadeth are on Roadrunner (Warner) Anthrax are on Universal Awesome as it would be, ain't gonna happen :smith:
If they did it as a 17 member band called "Big 4" and funded it out of the own pocket the record labels couldn't do much to stop them... I think. But isn't the licensing crap around the Big 4 DVD similar to what would come up in a collaboration? Surely the labels would recognize how much money they'd get from this.
Live performance isn't directly involving labels I don't believe, the problem with an album would be exclusivity deals for each artist's work which would probably void a self promoted effort, and if not that then it would need to be released on a single label which will never happen when 3 majors are involved, and they'd need to sort splitting royalties. It'd be an unbelievable amount of work, at least that's the issues I can see arising, maybe I'm overcomplicating it :v:
Most split live albums I've seen have "*band name* appears courtesy of *label name*" so I just assumed that meant the label was involved in some way, due to the album being a commercial product containing music the label kinda (I think) owns the rights to. Which is why I said they should do it under a different name the labels can't fuck them with.
[QUOTE=St Hetfield;28214531]Hetfield is a great songwriter, being religious might be cool then cause he lived in religious family. [B]Lars Ulrich doesn't suck on drums[/B], I think all the "drummers" around here know what improvising is which Lars does pretty well.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.dkvine.com/letters/larsissmug.jpg[/img] hi my name is lars. i drum for metallica. i dont practice any of my songs at all. i dont practice. i dont reherse. whenever i want to play a song i listen to it 3 times then improv what i didnt learn. i am an xcellent drummer how the fuck do you forget how to play master of puppets you ass???? its only been in the setlist every fucking show since the album release [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Hakita;28214000]Now how does that work? You're trying to tell a youtube user that he is a retard by posting something he posted on a forum he will never go to? I don't get it.[/QUOTE] show user post
anyone that learned to play drums by listening to deep purple's "fireball" album is amazing why would you think he is a bad drummer. people just said that for absolutely no reason to try to piss him off during the napster scandal. there is no weight behind it [editline]22nd February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Jack Bryce;28217774]Most split live albums I've seen have "*band name* appears courtesy of *label name*" so I just assumed that meant the label was involved in some way, due to the album being a commercial product containing music the label kinda (I think) owns the rights to. Which is why I said they should do it under a different name the labels can't fuck them with.[/QUOTE] you have no idea how label exclusivity works.
i dont think he is "Bad" in the sense he has bad technique and plays with no felling, or bad timings, he is good in the sense of technique and feeling and timings, but he is bad in the sense he DOESNT FUCKING PRACTICE AND DOESNT EVEN PLAY HIS OWN SONGS RIGHT and not doing the double bass on any song except fight fire with fire and then the record companies make it worse by adding in the double bass
What do you mean not play his own songs right? and if he doesn't practice, it's really no big deal. He plays two hour long shows. I wouldn't hold such a thing against him. who cares
[QUOTE=gerbile5;28220234]i dont think he is "Bad" in the sense he has bad technique and plays with no felling, or bad timings, he is good in the sense of technique and feeling and timings, but he is bad in the sense he DOESNT FUCKING PRACTICE AND DOESNT EVEN PLAY HIS OWN SONGS RIGHT and not doing the double bass on any song except fight fire with fire and then the record companies make it worse by adding in the double bass[/QUOTE] I think the lack of double bass is due to him getting a bit older and slower. And don't come back saying "but Dave Lombardo can still do it" because that only means that Dave can do it, it says nothing about Lars. [QUOTE=Vedicardi;28220050]anyone that learned to play drums by listening to deep purple's "fireball" album is amazing why would you think he is a bad drummer. people just said that for absolutely no reason to try to piss him off during the napster scandal. there is no weight behind it [editline]22nd February 2011[/editline] you have no idea how label exclusivity works.[/QUOTE] How is it that whenever someone else posts something you disagree with you'll give some kind of reasonable response with an explanation of sorts but with me you'll just say I'm wrong without any kind of helpful justification? I'm not trying to sound like a whiny little bitch but it'd be nice if we could act like civilized people even on the internet. [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=gerbile5;28220234]i dont think he is "Bad" in the sense he has bad technique and plays with no felling, or bad timings, he is good in the sense of technique and feeling and timings, but he is bad in the sense he DOESNT FUCKING PRACTICE AND DOESNT EVEN PLAY HIS OWN SONGS RIGHT and not doing the double bass on any song except fight fire with fire and then the record companies make it worse by adding in the double bass[/QUOTE] Yeah, what do you mean about him not playing the songs right? He modifies the drumming in a bunch of songs but he's just doing that to play it in a different way. Kirk plays the small solos in Fade to Black and One different to the album but I don't hear you complaining about that.
creeping death, doesnt even play the tom build up after the floor tom intro. disposable heros, he doesnt play the part after the intro right, doesnt play some fills, plays most fills wrong blackened, doesnt even attempt to play most of the fills right not doing double bass on songs like battery, dyers eve, blackened, through the never, master of puppets, [del]fade to black[/del], ride the lightning, disposable heros, or any song that is 1\4 on the high hat. plus completely failing to be able to do the machine gun crescendo on the double bass in one. thats my issue with his not practicing. [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] im a drummer so i notice changes to drums as opposed to changes in guitars. whenever i listen to metallica im more or less listening to the drums and the vocals.\ [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Jack Bryce;28220400]I think the lack of double bass is due to him getting a bit older and slower. [/QUOTE] which is because of his lack of practicing. his arms can still do it. he can still play the fast snare after the snare+hat start of damage inc [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] actually now that i think of it, he does do double on the magnetic album. rather fast on cyanide. could be dubbed in though
I can't speak for most of the songs you mentioned but I when I saw them live he definitely played the double bass in the Death Magnetic songs and Fade to Black
I've seen them twice and he definitely did the machine gun in One on both occasions
oh really? that's a glimmer of hope. i take back part of my argument. [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] he does do it, but listening to it on youtube he doesnt do it well at all.
I didn't understand what he meant by machine gun but I just realised it's what I normally call the double bass bursts before the fast solos.
gerbile referred to it as the machine gun crescendo so I thought I'd use his term to keep it making sense :v:
im pretty sure thats the crescendo right? or is the snare bursts in the next part of the song the machine gun? yeah i know that trout. its just that i dont remember if the crescendo was the snare bursts or the bass bursts
The "darkness imprisoning me" section and the double kick preceding it is what I was meaning
if anything about lars that i like, i think him downgrading his kit was respectable. my drum instructor made a good point a few months ago. he told me he went from a huge 5 tom, double bass, shitload of cymbal setup back to a double pedal, single bass, one rack, one floor and 2 crash setup because you use more creativity to make up new fills and make new sounds out of the smaller kit as opposed to the huge kit. or something like that
[QUOTE=gerbile5;28220475]creeping death, doesnt even play the tom build up after the floor tom intro. disposable heros, he doesnt play the part after the intro right, doesnt play some fills, plays most fills wrong blackened, doesnt even attempt to play most of the fills right not doing double bass on songs like battery, dyers eve, blackened, through the never, master of puppets, [del]fade to black[/del], ride the lightning, disposable heros, or any song that is 1\4 on the high hat. plus completely failing to be able to do the machine gun crescendo on the double bass in one. thats my issue with his not practicing. [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] im a drummer so i notice changes to drums as opposed to changes in guitars. whenever i listen to metallica im more or less listening to the drums and the vocals.\ [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] which is because of his lack of practicing. his arms can still do it. he can still play the fast snare after the snare+hat start of damage inc [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] actually now that i think of it, he does do double on the magnetic album. rather fast on cyanide. could be dubbed in though[/QUOTE] As much as I don't like Lars and as much as I say that he's really dropped the ball in terms of skill and even playing some of their greatest songs incorrectly, Lars most definitely plays One full-force in concert.
[QUOTE=Jack Bryce;28220400] How is it that whenever someone else posts something you disagree with you'll give some kind of reasonable response with an explanation of sorts but with me you'll just say I'm wrong without any kind of helpful justification? I'm not trying to sound like a whiny little bitch but it'd be nice if we could act like civilized people even on the internet. [/QUOTE] because you've never been right about everything. you're the only person on this whole forum that I can't even bother to actually explain my points on because it feels just pointless at this point. [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] point point point point [editline]23rd February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=gerbile5;28220475]creeping death, doesnt even play the tom build up after the floor tom intro. disposable heros, he doesnt play the part after the intro right, doesnt play some fills, plays most fills wrong blackened, doesnt even attempt to play most of the fills right not doing double bass on songs like battery, dyers eve, blackened, through the never, master of puppets, [del]fade to black[/del], ride the lightning, disposable heros, or any song that is 1\4 on the high hat. plus completely failing to be able to do the machine gun crescendo on the double bass in one. thats my issue with his not practicing. [/QUOTE] you can't play fills "wrong." The whole point of them is to sound interesting and new. If he played them the same way every time, it'd be boring. Fills are where the drummer gets to get "oof" of the beat and have a bit of fun. the double bass is unfortunate but forgivable. He only learned to properly play pretty late into his career and never really had time to properly hone such skills. Starting to learn 20 years into it might not be what he wants to do. I wouldn't call him bad, just not great technically. His style is still very distinctive.
Am I the only one here who actually enjoy listening to Metallica?
[QUOTE=Camp er Joe;28228702]Am I the only one here who actually enjoy listening to Metallica?[/QUOTE] I do.
Just because someone doesn't practice doesn't make them bad.
I still think their best album was Metallica :colbert:
My favourite varies from time to time.
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