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Jesus Christ warned his disciples that the world would hate the Gospel. The reason is simple, there is a battle that is being waged between what the Apostle Paul called the “Children of Light” and the “Children of Darkness.” This hatred for our Christian faith, however, is manifested in two different ways. On one hand we have the overt hatred of Bolshevism that gutted churches, toppled alters, raped Christian women and tortured ministers of the Gospel as it seized power in Russia, Cuba and other countries. That kind of hatred is plain, open and easily recognizable. This kind of hatred is called anti-Christ. The other kind of hatred is perhaps more diabolical as it works like a termite eating away at the Gospel until it is reduced to a meaningless philosophy of living. Jesus Christ was a good man and his most important message is that we are to love everybody! Those who believe in the absolutes of the Gospel are too extreme to be taken seriously. This form is not Anti-Christianity but Ante-Christianity. It is the replacement of Biblical principles with the philosophy of Secular humanism. It is the forerunner of the return of Christ and is known in scripture as the church of Laodicea (Rev 3:14) Laodicea in the Greek would be best translated as the Church of Human Rights. In to this mixture we must understand that there is a transition taking place. People who are committed Christians and understand that Christ was not mere mortal, but was in fact the Son of God believes in the absolutes of right and wrong and that God alone is the law giver. These Bible based Christians know that homosexuality is a SIN, racemixing is a SIN, abortion is a SIN and obedience to civil authority above that of Godly authority is idolatry. Unfortunately, these people are under attack by Liberals, Leftist, Socialists, Humanists, Jews and outright Communists. As for mainstream Christians no matter how much they bow before the demands of this assortment of bigoted extremists, they can never satisfy them because of their beliefs (although mistaken on some points) in the Gospel. As a result, George W. Bush, John Ashcroft, and others who make the claim that the Bible and Jesus Christ should be the primary guidebook in political decisions are ridiculed and made to appear that they are not qualified to hold public office. And the national media joins right in, pointing out that they are mean-spirited and lack true Christian love for their fellow man. This twist of Christianity can be seen at Temple University where Michael Mcavaravage attempted to offer a theatrical production showing the holiness and divinity of Jesus Christ. This was his way of protesting another theatrical production at Temple University that displayed Christ and His disciples as being homosexual. Did school officials applaud Michael? No! He was subdued in the administrator’s office and transported to the psychiatric ward of the university. Another example of the growing hatred for the Gospel was seen in Michigan when a 15-year-old Christian student had had enough of the posters, speeches, and “Intolerance Free Zones” celebrating homosexuality. When he decided to wear a sweatshirt, which said “Straight and Proud” with a tasteful picture on the back of a girl and boy holding hands, he was hauled into the principle’s office and reprimanded. His parents were called and told he must never wear such hateful clothing again. The sweatshirt could lead to violence they were told. People forget that the twin pillars upon which this nation was built are race and faith. Those Christians who attack us because of our loyalty to faith and race are now attacked for their loyalty to faith alone. Those Christians who snubbed their nose at White Racial Loyalists and walked with an air of self-righteousness because they were not racists are now under attack by the same anti-Christian element that attacked us. Yet we see the “Christians,” even while being attacked and ridiculed and smeared by the avowed enemies of the Cross, bow and scrape before their attackers in a vain effort to prove that they really do love everyone and are not to be confused with those evil racists. In spite of the teaching of secular humanism, Modernism, and liberal theology, Biblical Christianity (The Old Time Religion and the Faith of our Fathers) is based on racial principles. We must pray that these (mainstream) Christians catch on soon…for the sake of their children. But whether they do or not, we will continue to fight for their children. We must not allow the children to suffer for the ignorance of their elders. Don't you agree? [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Gimmick" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
[url]http://www.kkk.bz/jesus_christ_warned_his_disciple.htm[/url] Probably not the best source to start a debate off from, just saying :v: Also if you are going to copy something word for word as a debate argument you should at least give a citation or mention the source
As a Christian, and a bit of an FP regular, I've learned there are some things you just don't talk about. They ignite such a spark, that no one ever wants to hear about it. Things like politics, religion, the likes.. they have a place, but I find this may not be it.
I only believe in the great words of the flying spaghetti Monster and Raptor Jesus.
his picture is the flag of the Knights Party he's not trying to hide it
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;36295214][url]http://www.kkk.bz/jesus_christ_warned_his_disciple.htm[/url] Probably not the best source to start a debate off from, just saying :v:[/QUOTE] I would gladly provide my resources and statistics to back up my views. I'm not some arrogant person who decided to take an article from a website and put it on a forum for laughs. I'm here because I support my idealism. I would appreciate a serious debate between two Christians.
He's a bigot. That website he copied and pasted from is filled with bigotry and homophobic ideas.
Ok, as a christian I'm a little confused where you got the idea that race mixing is a sin, also how do political leanings factor into this at all?
[QUOTE=mastfire;36295378]He's a bigot. That website he copied and pasted from is filled with bigotry and homophobic ideas.[/QUOTE] That's not true at all. I am not hateful, a bigot, nor a 'homophobe'. I do not hate anyone for any reason, but I do hate what people do. As the thread stated above this is for fellow [I][B]Christians.[/B][/I] Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. [editline]12th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=bIgFaTwOrM12;36295400]Ok, as a christian I'm a little confused where you got the idea that race mixing is a sin.[/QUOTE] This can sound confusing to some people. Many times when a person hears on the news or in a magazine or by a friend that some other person or group believes race mixing is wrong – they think that means those people hate other people. Some people will come to our website for a school report. Sometimes a teacher will tell their students some things that are untrue. The teacher is probably a very nice person and he or she no doubt cares a great deal about their students or they would not be trying to teach you – but that doesn’t mean they aren’t wrong sometimes. And almost every teacher of the past would disagree with them on the subject of race mixing. They would be against it. One thing a teacher (but not all teachers – some teachers might be with The Knights) may tell you is that the reason we do not believe in race mixing is because we hate other people who are not like us. This is not true. Have you ever heard some one say that we should all believe in diversity – that God made us like he made the rainbow – in many different colors? I am sure you have heard this before. Usually it is people who work to stop the progress of The Knights who say things like that. Sometimes someone will shout angrily at us, “Hey, don’t you know that God made us all to be different. Don’t you know that God made humans to be all different colors like the rainbow. Don’t you know that God made us all – yellow, black, and white, they are precious in His sight.” And we will say, “You are so right. God made us all to be different. God made us to be as the colors of the rainbow. God made us to be unique. He loves us all – the different colors of the world – that is exactly how he made it….but then my friend why do you insist that it be all mixed up. Why are you not satisfied with the many colors that God made – Why do you want it mixed into only one color. Why do you fight against the unique qualities of each race and work so that everyone is the same? Why do you work to destroy God’s rainbow of humanity? If they are an honest and truth searching person – truly caring about the future of God’s people and creation then they will say, “Well I never thought about it like that before. I must think about this some more. Maybe you aren’t all hateful like I thought. Maybe you do care about all the people that God made. ( As requested, This is a portion of an article that is found at our website at [url]www.kkk.bz[/url] )
[QUOTE]Protest to the Martin Luther King Holiday Every year Klan members and supporters all over America distribute hundreds of thousands of pieces of literature informing Americans of the Communist background of this so called "Christian" man. This results in media contact and improves our ability to get our message across to the general public. Our ancestors would be shocked to know that America's government officials passed into law a holiday demanding that all of America celebrate a race-mixing Communists' birth! White Christian Americans must be told the truth about this anti-Christian agitator. Re - educate the Educators This is a program started in 1996. It consists of many different people working through headquarters who are concerned about what future teachers and current teachers pass on to our children in the classroom. There are many dedicated educators in America who want only to see our kids thrive and succeed in a world of uncertainty. But our teachers aren't receiving a whole education themselves. Groups like Klanwatch target aspiring teachers and teachers at risk ( Conservative Christian teachers) who they feel need a push in the "right" direction. This program is a work in progress. Being designed are easy to understand workbooks for the teacher or future teacher to help give them an accurate perception of the Christian foundation of Education in America, information on those who are out to undermine our educational institutions from within, and current information about the struggles of white youth, the peer pressure they feel to give into globalism, homosexuality, drug use, interracial dating etc. and ways to combat this trend. Also included is the truth about "hate crimes". Most people are unaware that millions of white people have been victims of violent hate crimes, especially in the cities where poor white families have been unable to escape. Their children are especially vulnerable and staying alive in school is an accomplishment. A black student in a virtually all white school would be safe and allowed to pursue an education, but we all know that any white kid in a mostly black school is nothing but an easy target for hate filled Negroes. Imagine the daily terror many white kids feel when being surrounded by angry and violent Negroes who just sat through a class where the teacher pumped them all up with evil stories of the White man! Our kids and good teachers need help. There is a war underway in America for the minds of our children. From early on our kids are taught to feel guilty about everything wrong in the world and it is all placed at the feet of the White Race. Our children are told they should not be proud and if they are then they are bad kids and evil racists. This insanity must be stopped. Not only must we reach the children, but we also must reach the teacher with the truth. Their white students are at risk and they need to know about it. [/QUOTE] I got proof from the website.
[QUOTE=TheKnights;36295421]That's not true at all. I am not hateful, a bigot, nor a 'homophobe'. I do not hate anyone for any reason, but I do hate what people do. As the thread stated above this is for fellow [I][B]Christians.[/B][/I] Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. [editline]12th June 2012[/editline] This can sound confusing to some people. Many times when a person hears on the news or in a magazine or by a friend that some other person or group believes race mixing is wrong – they think that means those people hate other people. Some people will come to our website for a school report. Sometimes a teacher will tell their students some things that are untrue. The teacher is probably a very nice person and he or she no doubt cares a great deal about their students or they would not be trying to teach you – but that doesn’t mean they aren’t wrong sometimes. And almost every teacher of the past would disagree with them on the subject of race mixing. They would be against it. One thing a teacher (but not all teachers – some teachers might be with The Knights) may tell you is that the reason we do not believe in race mixing is because we hate other people who are not like us. This is not true. Have you ever heard some one say that we should all believe in diversity – that God made us like he made the rainbow – in many different colors? I am sure you have heard this before. Usually it is people who work to stop the progress of The Knights who say things like that. Sometimes someone will shout angrily at us, “Hey, don’t you know that God made us all to be different. Don’t you know that God made humans to be all different colors like the rainbow. Don’t you know that God made us all – yellow, black, and white, they are precious in His sight.” And we will say, “You are so right. God made us all to be different. God made us to be as the colors of the rainbow. God made us to be unique. He loves us all – the different colors of the world – that is exactly how he made it….but then my friend why do you insist that it be all mixed up. Why are you not satisfied with the many colors that God made – Why do you want it mixed into only one color. Why do you fight against the unique qualities of each race and work so that everyone is the same? Why do you work to destroy God’s rainbow of humanity? If they are an honest and truth searching person – truly caring about the future of God’s people and creation then they will say, “Well I never thought about it like that before. I must think about this some more. Maybe you aren’t all hateful like I thought. Maybe you do care about all the people that God made. ( As requested, This is a portion of an article that is from our website at [url]www.kkk.bz[/url] )[/QUOTE] I don't see a single mention of scripture in there, you said that race mixing is a sin, as with all the other sins I'd expect you to have a valid source somewhere in the bible. Also race mixing isn't about trying to mix "the colours that God made" it's about two people that love each other(assume I'm talking about a man and a woman in marriage).
[QUOTE=mastfire;36295515]I got proof from the website.[/QUOTE] King has some very disturbing records, mastfire. Our website is there to provide our idealism and what we see as facts based on our own research and external statistics such as CDC and worldly news. This is a debate thread for Christians who are hated for their faith. Not a debate about weather or not our website is a hate site. If you have a personal issue with me I would gladly help you via P.M. as long and you remain logical and respectful.
[QUOTE=TheKnights;36295571]King has some very disturbing records, mastfire. Our website is there to provide our idealism and what we see as facts based on our own research and external statistics such as CDC and worldly news. This is a debate thread for Christians who are hated for their faith. Not a debate about weather or not our website is a hate site. If you have a personal issue with me I would gladly help you via P.M. as long and you remain logical and respectful.[/QUOTE] Please don't play the "let's all be respectful" card when you're actively propagating an ideology of hatred and bigotry. It's wicked passe
lol knight gtfo
[QUOTE=bIgFaTwOrM12;36295531]I don't see a single mention of scripture in there, you said that race mixing is a sin, as with all the other sins I'd expect you to have a valid source somewhere in the bible. Also race mixing isn't about trying to mix "the colours that God made" it's about two people that love each other(assume I'm talking about a man and a woman in marriage).[/QUOTE] Well look at it this way. God made us different colors, right? He created you and me in His image. We are separated physically by flesh color. We ( The Knights ) believe that race-mixing is contributing to a genocide of our race, as I am a white preservationist. I believe it is wrong for a white man to be with a black woman, and for a white woman to be with a black man. It's not because I hate people. It's because I believe it's simply morally wrong. [editline]12th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=SigmaLambda;36295630]Please don't play the "let's all be respectful" card when you're actively propagating an ideology of hatred and bigotry. It's wicked passe[/QUOTE] I have stated it once, and I will state it again. I am not here to promote hatred! I am here to promote love. If you wouldn't be so arrogant, and took the time to study my views and ideology, you would learn that I am a very loving person who cares for his people, religion, and country.
[QUOTE=TheKnights;36295655]Well look at it this way. God made us different colors, right? He created you and me in His image. We are separated physically by flesh color. We ( The Knights ) believe that race-mixing is contributing to a genocide of our race, as I am a [B]white preservationist[/B].[B] I believe it is wrong for a white man to be with a black woman, and for a white woman to be with a black man.[/B] It's not because I hate people. It's because I believe it's simply morally wrong.[/QUOTE] sealed your fate. begone bigot
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[QUOTE=TheKnights;36295655]Well look at it this way. God made us different colors, right? He created you and me in His image. We are separated physically by flesh color. We ( The Knights ) believe that race-mixing is contributing to a genocide of our race, as I am a white preservationist. I believe it is wrong for a white man to be with a black woman, and for a white woman to be with a black man. It's not because I hate people. It's because I believe it's simply morally wrong.[/QUOTE] But where in your faith does it say this? You say it's a sin even though it's never stated in the bible itself, that sounds like you're adding words to the bible, which I'd like to note is condemned within the bible itself. Perhaps you should look to what scripture teaches before branding the teachings of your movement as Christianity too.
This guy is a cunt, race mixing is not genocide to the white race because white people still fuck white people. race mixing will never make the whole world one colour, it just won't happen, and if it did why does it even matter? people are people
[QUOTE=bIgFaTwOrM12;36295722]But where in your faith does it say this? You say it's a sin even though it's never stated in the bible itself, that sounds like you're adding words to the bible, which I'd like to note is condemned within the bible itself. Perhaps you should look to what scripture teaches before branding the teachings of your movement as Christianity too.[/QUOTE] The Bible doesn't go deep into specifics. There are a lot of evil things that people can do that aren't mentioned in the Bible, it's simply known. I believe that race-mixing is against the our shared religion due to the fact that it's contributing to destroying something made in God's image, and that he made us each different colors for a reason. It's not that I hate people who race-mix, I simply believe that it is morally wrong.
[QUOTE=TheKnights;36295790]The Bible doesn't go deep into specifics. There are a lot of evil things that people can do that aren't mentioned in the Bible, it's simply known. I believe that race-mixing is against the our shared religion due to the fact that it's contributing to destroying something made in God's image, and that he made us each different colors for a reason. It's not that I hate people who race-mix, I simply believe that it is morally wrong.[/QUOTE] well geez mr. godinthesky really didn't think that through now did he? if we really weren't supposed to fornicate with people of a different skin color, I think God would have given us incompatible genitals so we [I]couldn't[/I] hmm. lemme guess, different races of animals in the same species (aka pomeranian dog breeding with poodle) is morally wrong too, and they must be evil too, right? I don't see why I'm really even trying against you because you'll just shut everything out with some other blind excuse that sounds like total poo.
You're a nazi. Die.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;36295763]This guy is a cunt, race mixing is not genocide to the white race because white people still fuck white people. race mixing will never make the whole world one colour, it just won't happen, and if it did why does it even matter? people are people[/QUOTE] I disagree with your statement, but that doesn't matter. Race mixing isn't important right now because of the fact that this thread has little to do with it! It has to do with Christians being persecuted for their faith. [editline]12th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Chernarus;36295837]You're a nazi. Die.[/QUOTE] No. The Nazi regime ended in Germany over 50 years ago. We live in a different century in the United States.
[QUOTE=TheKnights;36295855]I disagree with your statement, but that doesn't matter. Race mixing isn't important right now because of the fact that this thread has little to do with it! It has to do with Christians being persecuted for their faith. No. The Nazi regime ended in Germany over 50 years ago. We live in a different century in the United States. [editline]12th June 2012[/editline] [/QUOTE] Neo-Nazies are here now, you are speaking of the same ideology of them.
[QUOTE=TheKnights;36295855]I disagree with your statement, but that doesn't matter. Race mixing isn't important right now because of the fact that this thread has little to do with it! It has to do with Christians being persecuted for their faith.[/QUOTE] I only "persecute" those who are hateful and unaccepting that people celebrate different religions from them, that some people are gay, and that some people don't want to be "converted" to Christianity. I love the accepting Christians that don't care if you're black, white, brown, yellow or any other color. The ones who don't care that they celebrate a different religion or none at all. The ones that don't care of your sexual preference. [I]"Religion is like having a big dick. Yeah, it's nice that you have one, but don't parade it around and whip it out and try to shove it down my or my child's throat."[/I]
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;36295835]well geez mr. godinthesky really didn't think that through now did he? if we really weren't supposed to fornicate with people of a different skin color, I think God would have given us incompatible genitals so we [I]couldn't[/I] hmm. lemme guess, different races of animals in the same species (aka pomeranian dog breeding with poodle) is morally wrong too, and they must be evil too, right? I don't see why I'm really even trying against you because you'll just shut everything out with some other blind excuse that sounds like total poo.[/QUOTE] No. God gave us free will. That's why gays due what they due, it's an attraction. They can sin, it's on them, and one day they WILL pay for it. That's not a threat, it's a fact. That's like saying God wouldn't have made gays if he knew they would sin. God gives us choice. We aren't animals, we are human. Animals don't think the same as we do, and have little to do with what this is all about. It's not a blind excuse, it's a belief. I respect yours and I would appreciate it if you would respect mine.
[QUOTE=TheKnights;36295790]The Bible doesn't go deep into specifics. There are a lot of evil things that people can do that aren't mentioned in the Bible, it's simply known. I believe that race-mixing is against the our shared religion due to the fact that it's contributing to destroying something made in God's image, and that he made us each different colors for a reason. It's not that I hate people who race-mix, I simply believe that it is morally wrong.[/QUOTE] Firstly I think there's some differences in what we believe, so I wouldn't call it a shared religion. Secondly the bible states clearly what sins should be avoided, the sins your movement has come up with are just fabricated out of thin air, if you can't link back an action to a sin then it's simply not a sin. As for the idea that God made us in different colours, I can't say I agree as it's plainly stated that humanity began as only two individuals, to individuals who could only have one race individually. Race is the result of evolution within our species, although we remain in God's image. Although now you've changed your statement from mixing races being a sin to you personally believing mixing races to be morally wrong. In that case I still can't grasp why you would think this, but I'm glad you at least accept this belief is not a part of Christianity. So if race mixing is no longer a sing I'd very much like it if you'd change the OP as it sends the wrong message.
[QUOTE=TheKnights;36295893]it's a belief. I respect yours and I would appreciate it if you would respect mine.[/QUOTE] That's not how debates work, especially when your belief can be summarized as "kill the darkies." Nobody has to respect a goddamn thing. Nothing is sacrosanct, least of all Racist Jesus. [editline]11th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Stormcharger;36295763]This guy is a cunt, race mixing is not genocide to the white race because white people still fuck white people. race mixing will never make the whole world one colour, it just won't happen, and if it did why does it even matter? people are people[/QUOTE] The current races [I]will[/I] cease to exist in their current state, however, as is the nature of continued human evolution. WASPs will probably disappear sooner than later considering western culture's emphasis on multiculturalism and, specifically, the American mixing-pot. At some point in the indeterminate future, Americans will coalesce into a more uniform ethnic group as the current racial groups continue to intermix, at which point that new ethnic group will branch out into other places and other new ethnic groups from different regions will branch out into the U.S. I, for one, think that's a pretty cool idea. Apparently there are others that prefer inbreeding and creationism, I guess.
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;36295891]I only "persecute" those who are hateful and unaccepting that people celebrate different religions from them, that some people are gay, and that some people don't want to be "converted" to Christianity. I love the accepting Christians that don't care if you're black, white, brown, yellow or any other color. The ones who don't care that they celebrate a different religion or none at all. The ones that don't care of your sexual preference. [I]"Religion is like having a big dick. Yeah, it's nice that you have one, but don't parade it around and whip it out and try to shove it down my or my child's throat."[/I][/QUOTE] This thread is for fellow Christians, not people who persecute our faith. Sure it's for debate, but you're way off topic. If you don't like Christianity, then don't come to a thread that clearly states [B]For Fellow Christians.[/B]
[QUOTE=TheKnights;36295942]This thread is for fellow Christians, not people who persecute our faith. Sure it's for debate, but you're way off topic. If you don't like Christianity, then don't come to a thread that clearly states [B]For Fellow Christians.[/B][/QUOTE] That isn't how a debate forum works. If you want a circle jerk, sod off to a KKK forum. The place called "Mass Debate" sort of implies there is going to be a conflict between ideas. That's sort of why it exists.
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