[QUOTE=Eluveitie;34799658]I thought most of them did it out of anti-religionism and interest in the occult.[/QUOTE] There are also lots that deal with paganism, nature and misanthropy. They there are also other popular topics.
Some call Burzum pretentious but I personally think he's a very spiritual human being. Great man.
except from the murder, but that's something we have to forget about. :>
[QUOTE=UberWarri0r;34800090]There are also lots that deal with paganism, nature and misanthropy. They there are also other popular topics.[/QUOTE]
Paganism is considered to be part of the occult by popular society.
That's what I mainly meant when I said occult.
Satanic beliefs are often confused with pagan beliefs by most people.
[QUOTE=AK'z;34800120]Some call Burzum pretentious but I personally think he's a very spiritual human being. Great man.
except from the murder, but that's something we have to forget about. :>[/QUOTE]
have you seen this? pretty good documentary, built mostly around interviews with Fenriz of Darkthrone, and Varg, while he's in prison. it explains that whole scene pretty well.
varg's whole explanation of his reasons for the arson and Fenriz's little description of "Norwegian Identity" are pretty awesome.
but yes Burzum is definitely very spiritual music : >
i'll have to see that.
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;34799658]I thought most of them did it out of anti-religionism and interest in the occult.[/QUOTE]
or at least, that's how it was marketed. If you listen to a lot of black metal you often find the same kind of escapist romanticism, generally about the pagan past or fantasy scenarios. Just look at Immortal - they write almost exlusively about the fictional realm of Blashrykh, which is based on the feeling of isolation they felt in their home-town when they decided to form the band.
What I also find quite amusing is that most black metal is inherently atmospheric, so i've always found that label particularly pointless.
On the topic of Varg Vikernes, I think we can all agree he's a pretty interesting figure - I've read a lot of his online documents and certainly he's intelligent, and definitely not insane. A lot of what he writes is very interesting (despite some misguided viewpoints of varying degrees)
[QUOTE=I_Forgot;34778249]In no order, because it was hard enough to pick 10, and I'm sure that I forgot some of them.
Discordance Axis - "The Inalienable Dreamless"
Pig Destroyer - "Prowler in the Yard"
Anaal Nathrakh - "In The Constellation of the Black Widow"
Atheist - "Unquestionable Presence"
Dying Fetus - "Destroy the Opposition"
Marduk - "Heaven Shall Burn...When We Are Gathered"
Agorophobic Nosebleed - "Frozen Corpse Stuffed With Dope"
Deicide - "Legion"
Death - "Human"
Cannibal Corpse - "Tomb of the Mutilated"[/QUOTE]
kickass list, only one i haven't listened from there is Marduk
Marduk are ace
That's really the only Marduk album I've listened to. I checked out Wormwood, and while it wasn't bad, it didn't do a whole lot for me.
But Heaven Shall Burn...When We Are Gathered is just goddamned intense.
And it's the only black metal album that I really enjoy these days. The rest just don't appeal to me much anymore, although Burzum's Fallen was nice.
[QUOTE=AK'z;34799537]black metal is worlds apart from the flavour of thrash/sludge.
It's atmosphere yes, but it's more about expressing someone's inner demon. That's my take on it anyway :-)[/QUOTE]
I would say that atmospheric black metal and sludge are similar in a way though, both are heavily involved with post-metal which is very atmospheric.
[QUOTE=lil timmy;34801977]Marduk are ace[/QUOTE]
agreed, i wish i had that "fuck me jesus" t-shirt by them, the look on people's face when they see it must be awesome
[QUOTE=q0q;34816070]I would say that atmospheric black metal and sludge are similar in a way though, both are heavily involved with post-metal which is very atmospheric.[/QUOTE]
Atmospheric Black Metal also refers to bands before Post-Rock/Metal influenced Black Metal as well.
tbh like I said, black metal is, for the most part, intriniscally atmospheric. Most USBM is influenced by post-rock/post-metal but by no means is that the case elsewhere (for the most part) For example, Burzum - who are widely regarded as ABM - sprang from the second wave of black metal in norway in the early 90's, and notably not present in Burzum's sound are any elements of post-rock or metal. Much as the hipsters at pitchfork would prefer to tell you otherwise, USBM does not have a monopoly on atmospheric music.
(btw I'm not bashing USBM, that scene is capable of putting out some beautiful music - but certain poster-bands for the "movement" are a really shallow attempt to layer black metal cliches over indie rock or atmospheric sludge song structures to sell it to a certain scene and tell themselves they're doing something special and progressive.)
Goddamnit, adding two more albums to my list:
Circle Of Dead Children - Starving The Vultures
Liturgy - Aesthethica
Anymore lists? Hoping to get more great albums that I've never heard of, so far i got 2 or 3.
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