• Forum Discussion v6 - Newpunch Migration Underway
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Damn, Kiwi was one of my favourite moderators. I wish her good luck and best wishes in her endeavors.
[QUOTE=myon;53183731]I've talked to her the past hour or so and she decided to take a break for her own good. I hope you guys will understand her decision and respect her need for space right now.[/QUOTE] Reinforcing this, do not go pushing for details on or off the site, leave them alone please.
Get better soon.
Ay, I don't even know what a discord is. kiwis a sound poster tho :( Get well soon
Get better soon Kiwi <3
Slightly related to the drama, but where do people get the idea that Facepunch is a hellhole ran by nazi mods? Did they just not lurk at all to understand that bans are warnings, or do they just expect nothing but a finger-waggle for flagrantly shitposting only to be surprised when something actually happens?
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;53183969]Slightly related to the drama, but where do people get the idea that Facepunch is a hellhole ran by nazi mods? Did they just not lurk at all to understand that bans are warnings, or do they just expect nothing but a finger-waggle for flagrantly shitposting only to be surprised when something actually happens?[/QUOTE] Forums hating other forums is just an old tradition. It's bound to happen regardless of actual forum quality. Not saying they're aren't legitimate reasons for hating / liking forums, it's just that people often have a sense of pride in their own forums and have a bit of a sports team mentality with it
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;53183969]Slightly related to the drama, but where do people get the idea that Facepunch is a hellhole ran by nazi mods? Did they just not lurk at all to understand that bans are warnings, or do they just expect nothing but a finger-waggle for flagrantly shitposting only to be surprised when something actually happens?[/QUOTE]For as long as i've been here, people who feel they've been banned "unjustly" often go to whine in other places. Fewer give enough of a shit to correct them off-site. The few legitimate cases of incorrect bans just strengthens the twisted narrative. [editline]edit[/editline] That, and we are generally stricter than most sites, so someone who's used to getting off with just warnings is usually in for a rude awakening.
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;53183969]Slightly related to the drama, but where do people get the idea that Facepunch is a hellhole ran by nazi mods? Did they just not lurk at all to understand that bans are warnings, or do they just expect nothing but a finger-waggle for flagrantly shitposting only to be surprised when something actually happens?[/QUOTE] People get banned for being morons, don't understand that they were being twerps, run off to whatever second best forum happens to be around at the time, make a drama thread which gets pushed to the top of the pile by other banned twerps, people who have never looked at FP pick up the narrative and run with it. Age old trend.
FP used to be way more strict (/loose lmao) with banning because real bans were, and continue to be, the warning system. It hurts getting banned out of nowhere, especially when you don't realize what you were doing to get banned (which, if you knew it you [i]usually[/i] wouldn't be doing it, right?) and if you can't post on FP for the time, why not complain about it to people who aren't invested/aware of the place and would give you the pity points you need [editline]e[/editline] wow I was slow to post this, still this enforces the fact also I heard about the discord drama this morning and man that was a laugh reading the reddit thread. Can't imagine what these people would say if they saw garry's twitter and blog
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;53183969]Slightly related to the drama, but where do people get the idea that Facepunch is a hellhole ran by nazi mods? Did they just not lurk at all to understand that bans are warnings, or do they just expect nothing but a finger-waggle for flagrantly shitposting only to be surprised when something actually happens?[/QUOTE] I dunno I love Facepunch and I've been here for 11 years (woah) but I have started to feel that a ban (regardless of length) as the first line of punishment seems super harsh compared to most other communities, and I can see how it rubs newcomers the wrong way, probably turning away a lot of valuable potential members because, from the outside, we absolutely don't look like a welcoming community. It does seem more productive to me to, in the instance of an off topic post, a post in the wrong forum, etc, warn the user first, manually delete the off topic post or move the thread, then ban if it becomes an ongoing issue. But in terms of staff time and developing processes to manage that well it becomes a bit more difficult than a single ban
[QUOTE=Doozle;53183863]Ay, I don't even know what a discord is. kiwis a sound poster tho :( Get well soon[/QUOTE] It's an orb that Zenyatta throws to make people take more damage. [editline]7th March 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Maloof?;53184089]I dunno I love Facepunch and I've been here for 11 years (woah) but I have started to feel that a ban (regardless of length) as the first line of punishment seems super harsh compared to most other communities, and I can see how it rubs newcomers the wrong way, probably turning away a lot of valuable potential members because, from the outside, we absolutely don't look like a welcoming community. It does seem more productive to me to, in the instance of an off topic post, a post in the wrong forum, etc, warn the user first, manually delete the off topic post or move the thread, then ban if it becomes an ongoing issue. But in terms of staff time and developing processes to manage that well it becomes a bit more difficult than a single ban[/QUOTE] It is harsh but it's effective. You'll notice the quality people have the fewest bans while the people that everyone dislikes have the most.
Love you Kiwi. Anyway I think a lot of people take immediate offense to a ban because they're used to being hand-held if something goes wrong. They get a "warning", get to question it and it just becomes a waste of time in some instances. A ban hammers it in that "[I]Hey, you did this and it wasn't the right thing - don't do it again[/I]". Most of the rules/posting netiquettes can be learned just by lurking for a little bit, and making sure you read the stickies.
My method is just don't post and I don't get banned.
[QUOTE=Erfly;53184124]My method is just don't post and I don't get banned.[/QUOTE] [img]https://i.gyazo.com/2fb8a69be91193a1278168218816e27d.png[/img] liar
[QUOTE=Erfly;53184124]My method is just don't post and I don't get banned.[/QUOTE] my method is to just make good posts every time
My method is just to make someone else's post look bad so mine looks good in comparison. [QUOTE=Naught;53184142]my method is to just make good posts every time[/QUOTE] You smell.... nice. See there you go.
I'm not surprised at all at the comments on Reddit, I feel that Reddit has always been full of exceptionally rude people who have no problem being very aggressive and hateful. It's part of why I like this place so much, things are generally rather chill.
[QUOTE=Zombinie;53184167]I'm not surprised at all at the comments on Reddit, I feel that Reddit has always been full of exceptionally rude people who have no problem being very aggressive and hateful. It's part of why I like this place so much, things are generally rather chill.[/QUOTE] Not that I actively participate on Reddit, but even just from lurking, I can tell it tends to vary by community (and moderation style). Some of the more niche/focused subreddits aren't as bad as, say, the most common Subreddits.
[QUOTE=Zombinie;53184167]I'm not surprised at all at the comments on Reddit, I feel that Reddit has always been full of exceptionally rude people who have no problem being very aggressive and hateful. It's part of why I like this place so much, things are generally rather chill.[/QUOTE] Shut up cuck
Going back to the drama for a second... He's just victim playing in order to get sympathy and people to his cause. There's a reason I banned him from the FP Discord and the GmodStore discord - cause he causes drama and was spam inviting people to his Discord. But he's just gonna keep going with the "[I]woe is me[/I]" card, and the only way to beat it is to ignore it, or call him out on it.
[QUOTE=Nookyava;53184184]Going back to the drama for a second... He's just victim playing in order to get sympathy and people to his cause. There's a reason I banned him from the FP Discord and the GmodStore discord - cause he causes drama and was spam inviting people to his Discord. But he's just gonna keep going with the "[I]woe is me[/I]" card, and the only way to beat it is to ignore it, or call him out on it.[/QUOTE] even if they're causing drama afterwards the conduct by Layla was really unprofessional to start and that should at least be noted
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;53184185]getting banned is fp tradition battle scars[/QUOTE] It's our equivalent of hazing!
[QUOTE=Griffster26;53184190]even if they're causing drama afterwards the conduct by Layla was really unprofessional to start and that should at least be noted[/QUOTE] I understand where Layla is coming from because they don't need someone telling them what to do like that. Especially when there is no need to be picked out from the other people who were telling the user not to post in that channel. Nobody else got picked out, only them. Plus it wasn't the official Discord, Layla is under no obligation there to act professional as they are representing themselves. It'd be different if it was in the official FP discord for example.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;53184089]I dunno I love Facepunch and I've been here for 11 years (woah) but I have started to feel that a ban (regardless of length) as the first line of punishment seems super harsh compared to most other communities, and I can see how it rubs newcomers the wrong way, probably turning away a lot of valuable potential members because, from the outside, we absolutely don't look like a welcoming community. It does seem more productive to me to, in the instance of an off topic post, a post in the wrong forum, etc, warn the user first, manually delete the off topic post or move the thread, then ban if it becomes an ongoing issue. But in terms of staff time and developing processes to manage that well it becomes a bit more difficult than a single ban[/QUOTE] I like it that way, it's the same sort of thing that [url=http://www.atthefrontshop.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=471]At The Front[/url] does. [quote]You're not very nice! Oh, it's about to get worse. Nice doesn't cut it. We learned some years ago that terse and crude hammers the point in and quells dissent far better than "how can we better serve you sir?"[/quote] Hell, FP used to be even stricter.
[QUOTE=Nookyava;53184196] Plus it wasn't the official Discord, Layla is under no obligation there to act professional as they are representing themselves. It'd be different if it was in the official FP discord for example.[/QUOTE] I guess you're right in that regard.
[QUOTE=Erfly;53184124]My method is just don't post and I don't get banned.[/QUOTE] My method is to just post terribly. Its been working, kinda. :worried: [editline]7th March 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=JerryAnderson;53183969]Slightly related to the drama, but where do people get the idea that Facepunch is a hellhole ran by nazi mods? Did they just not lurk at all to understand that bans are warnings, or do they just expect nothing but a finger-waggle for flagrantly shitposting only to be surprised when something actually happens?[/QUOTE] Its basically always boiled down to the fact we don't do warnings, bans are our warnings and people fling their shit for it. Other places use warning systems which are a slap on the wrist then bans for punishment. FP's always been zero fucks given, you fuckup you get banned and people just see it as being punished, which to be fair they are, shouldn't have got banned in the first place!
it's probably the kinda strict moderating style that means this place isn't trash. Shit users can't really just be constantly shit users. And it's probably why I've been on here for nearly half my life. So yeah, shout out to the cracking mod team for keeping turds like me here :cool: [editline]7th March 2018[/editline] I came for the sex poses but stayed for the community
[QUOTE=Nookyava;53184196]I understand where Layla is coming from because they don't need someone telling them what to do like that. Especially when there is no need to be picked out from the other people who were telling the user not to post in that channel. Nobody else got picked out, only them. Plus it wasn't the official Discord, Layla is under no obligation there to act professional as they are representing themselves. It'd be different if it was in the official FP discord for example.[/QUOTE] Not even that, jordan made that discord to try and get in early so he could be the "community manager" and it went to his head and he started bossing the actual s&box dev around. Just stupid
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