• Stargate Universe
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Yeah, I thought everyone knew that by now. I mean, I didn't start watching until after Atlantis was over and I noticed that episodes 20/1 were usually two parts, and sometimes 10/11. But everyone seems so surprised that they're going on breaks between 10s and 11s, so I assume that's different.
I think there were only about 3 or 4 seasons of SG-1 that didn't have two-parters midway through the season, and only 3 seasons didn't end with a multi-part episode.
That was awesome, such along wait :(
A few points that came up in discussions with other folk about this ep; it's actually possible that the blueberry alien folk COULD show up... If you recall in season 1 how Rush was mentioning that it would seem the aliens had been tracking Destiny and periodically attacking it in an attempt to gain access. For all we know, they're nomad's who have been following Destiny across multiple galaxies, so there's nothing to say that they aren't still following it, and that Chloe hasn't been in some kind of 'passive-contact' with them on some deeper level. She might just have sent them a message as she could sense them being in range, and they could show up to help... Then it would basically be that they destroy the drones and save Destiny, and become the new threat they're facing because they would then turn their focus on to Destiny and they'd have to deal with that. Also, I want to clarify - I think the EVA scene was awesome on it's own, but it was essentially 10 minutes spent doing nothing and discovering nothing, just to show that the drones were awakening and attacking... There are a hundred other ways this could have been conveyed that saved time and allowed for much more important scenes to be extended. Kude, what you say about the 'law of convenience'? I have to agree. It just pisses me off, that's all. Typically episodes are written with a degree of pacing that allows every scene and event to flow from one into the next at a believable rate... This episode did not. It felt like too much was crammed in and no scene was given the amount of time it really deserved, yet the boring fluff like TJ and Bulkface were given surprising amounts of time - we know their relation, and they've had plenty of moments like that in almost every ep since the Lucian alliance came on board. This episode's scene did nothing for their character building except show that TJ is STILL gaining trust for him. Calling him to help in the medical room could have been done at any point for any reason in one tenth of the time, allowing other, arguably more important scenes to get some more airtime... Also, I have to disagree regarding the shields. The instant Whatsherface said the shields were weakening (the FIRST time), there was already significant damage been done to the ship - physically - with no sign of the shields having ANY effect on the weapons fire coming in. I think it was just poor handling of the CGI / Live action integration of the scenes but, it still annoys me. Also, given just how much damage Destiny was taking at the end and how long it will continue taking damage before anything comes in to help, the ship is going to be majorly fudged up. At the very least, all that extra hull damage will further screw the structural integrity and force the shields to have to work even harder 24/7... The only way to alleviate these issues is to either have a deus ex machina solution, or for the writers / producers to pull a Star Trek and just ignore the damage and pass it off as being no worse than what was already inflicted on the ship. Sorry, I just can't buy that. The ship is getting majorly fucked, and they have to acknowledge this and provide a solution that isn't just a magical bullshit fix :P
Well the blue aliens would be a distraction for Destiny, making their way to escape, on their new star course somewhere. And blueberries having to deal with the other race on the ship.
[QUOTE=Sobek-;26458795]A few points that came up in discussions with other folk about this ep; it's actually possible that the blueberry alien folk COULD show up... If you recall in season 1 how Rush was mentioning that it would seem the aliens had been tracking Destiny and periodically attacking it in an attempt to gain access. For all we know, they're nomad's who have been following Destiny across multiple galaxies, so there's nothing to say that they aren't still following it, and that Chloe hasn't been in some kind of 'passive-contact' with them on some deeper level. She might just have sent them a message as she could sense them being in range, and they could show up to help... Then it would basically be that they destroy the drones and save Destiny, and become the new threat they're facing because they would then turn their focus on to Destiny and they'd have to deal with that. Also, I want to clarify - I think the EVA scene was awesome on it's own, but it was essentially 10 minutes spent doing nothing and discovering nothing, just to show that the drones were awakening and attacking... There are a hundred other ways this could have been conveyed that saved time and allowed for much more important scenes to be extended. Kude, what you say about the 'law of convenience'? I have to agree. It just pisses me off, that's all. Typically episodes are written with a degree of pacing that allows every scene and event to flow from one into the next at a believable rate... This episode did not. It felt like too much was crammed in and no scene was given the amount of time it really deserved, yet the boring fluff like TJ and Bulkface were given surprising amounts of time - we know their relation, and they've had plenty of moments like that in almost every ep since the Lucian alliance came on board. This episode's scene did nothing for their character building except show that TJ is STILL gaining trust for him. Calling him to help in the medical room could have been done at any point for any reason in one tenth of the time, allowing other, arguably more important scenes to get some more airtime... Also, I have to disagree regarding the shields. The instant Whatsherface said the shields were weakening (the FIRST time), there was already significant damage been done to the ship - physically - with no sign of the shields having ANY effect on the weapons fire coming in. I think it was just poor handling of the CGI / Live action integration of the scenes but, it still annoys me. Also, given just how much damage Destiny was taking at the end and how long it will continue taking damage before anything comes in to help, the ship is going to be majorly fudged up. At the very least, all that extra hull damage will further screw the structural integrity and force the shields to have to work even harder 24/7... The only way to alleviate these issues is to either have a deus ex machina solution, or for the writers / producers to pull a Star Trek and just ignore the damage and pass it off as being no worse than what was already inflicted on the ship. Sorry, I just can't buy that. The ship is getting majory fucked, and they have to acknowledge this and provide a solution that isn't just a magical bullshit fix :P[/QUOTE] Well, a possible solution for the damage (I don't know if this fits your idea of deus ex machina) would be that the seeder ship gets majorly fucked up and disabled, allowing Destiny's crew or maybe the repair drones to salvage it for usable parts. But there is the issue of how they're going to destroy the drone command ship without dying.
[QUOTE=Jack Bryce;26459405]Well, a possible solution for the damage (I don't know if this fits your idea of deus ex machina) would be that the seeder ship gets majorly fucked up and disabled, allowing Destiny's crew or maybe the repair drones to salvage it for usable parts. But there is the issue of how they're going to destroy the drone command ship without dying.[/QUOTE] That seems fairly reasonable... But it's a bit tough to work out. They'd need a LOT of repair bots - just look at how long it took that one they had to cut loose the engine component - and a lot of time to sit there and let them do the work. so they'd need a whole lot of repair bots, and a whole lot of time, and they'd have to ignore the ship's mission and all that while they do it. Either that or they somehow take on all the parts from the seeder ship or whatever in storage, and each time they come out of FTL the repair bots get to work doing a few patch-ups after each jump. That could work, but I hope Destiny has big cargo bays :P Unless it turns out that the repair drones can just repair things extremely fast perhaps.
[QUOTE=Sobek-;26459946]That seems fairly reasonable... But it's a bit tough to work out. They'd need a LOT of repair bots - just look at how long it took that one they had to cut loose the engine component - and a lot of time to sit there and let them do the work. so they'd need a whole lot of repair bots, and a whole lot of time, and they'd have to ignore the ship's mission and all that while they do it. Either that or they somehow take on all the parts from the seeder ship or whatever in storage, and each time they come out of FTL the repair bots get to work doing a few patch-ups after each jump. That could work, but I hope Destiny has big cargo bays :P Unless it turns out that the repair drones can just repair things extremely fast perhaps.[/QUOTE] I admit, it's not a perfect idea. But at least it's not some kind of blatantly stupid way of fixing their problem, also, it would make future episodes more interesting because they'll probably get access to more areas of the ship with each successful repair job.
Don't know if the blueburries own those ships, and whoever they were fighting in within the now ship debris, but who were they fighting before, maybe those aliens that retreated that were with Telford, but one escaped, but the other destiny was the leader group. Maybe. But they guess they were just a netural player that came to help out of nowhere, seeing as Telford was trying to help them trail Destiny. The Blue Aliens are corrupting Chloe, and soon enough, My best theory, she'll become a major Antagonist, leader of the blue berries, when she has completed her form. And will fight with them to capture Destiny. But Young, back in Trial and Error, will do anything to protect Chloe. And do what he has to do not to fail against the Blueberries. Fucking lame name, but we gotta stick with it. I even forgot that the blueberries sabotaged the ship many times. Even when the team that was got left behind on that ruin planet....
Chloe is gonna turn into Kerrigan in terms of plot.
I like the idea of that, but Chloe's character is still getting on my nerves.
[QUOTE=Saren;26462525]Don't know if the blueburries own those ships, and whoever they were fighting in within the now ship debris, but who were they fighting before, maybe those aliens that retreated that were with Telford, but one escaped, but the other destiny was the leader group. Maybe. But they guess they were just a netural player that came to help out of nowhere, seeing as Telford was trying to help them trail Destiny. The Blue Aliens are corrupting Chloe, and soon enough, My best theory, she'll become a major Antagonist, leader of the blue berries, when she has completed her form. And will fight with them to capture Destiny. But Young, back in Trial and Error, will do anything to protect Chloe. And do what he has to do not to fail against the Blueberries. Fucking lame name, but we gotta stick with it. I even forgot that the blueberries sabotaged the ship many times. Even when the team that was got left behind on that ruin planet....[/QUOTE] I don't think "Blueberries" is their official in-universe name, it's just a placeholder until they get one.
Why do people keep saying "the other destiny"? Do you mean the seed ship? Just say seed ship.
Yes, the other seed ship with those other aliens, but don't think they look like the Asguard though. Seeing as they fled, it just gives less chance for Young and other hopefuls to get back home, leaving Rush with a trollface thoughout the series.
Just watched the last episode and [B]FUCKING GOD DAMN AM I PISSED OFF[/B] We'll have to wait a fucking century for the next episode. Worst cliffhanger I've ever seen and I'm not kidding.
No, you know who Chloe's turning into? [IMG]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Chris122990/river23.jpg[/IMG] [sp]River Tam[/sp]
[QUOTE=Forumaster;26495130]No, you know who Chloe's turning into? [img_thumb]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Chris122990/river23.jpg[/img_thumb] [sp]River Tam[/sp][/QUOTE] Been thinking about that. They're somewhat alike and it's not a bad thing, either. River Tam is one of the best sci-fi characters ever created imo. [b]Edit:[/b] Speaking of resemblances, does anyone else think the actress who plays Chloe looks a bit like Madeline Zima (played Mia on californication)
[QUOTE=Sobek-;26459946]That seems fairly reasonable... But it's a bit tough to work out. They'd need a LOT of repair bots - [b]just look at how long it took that one they had to cut loose the engine component - and a lot of time to sit there and let them do the work.[/b] so they'd need a whole lot of repair bots, and a whole lot of time, and they'd have to ignore the ship's mission and all that while they do it. Either that or they somehow take on all the parts from the seeder ship or whatever in storage, and each time they come out of FTL the repair bots get to work doing a few patch-ups after each jump. That could work, but I hope Destiny has big cargo bays :P Unless it turns out that the repair drones can just repair things extremely fast perhaps.[/QUOTE] That always bothered me, from what they showed in the episode, they cut out a pretty big part of the FTL drive, but when the ship jumped back into FTL the line of engines looked complete. I was expecting to have a silver of it gone/ no lights. I also agree with you, I hope that the writers made a good second part to the EP, and that they really need to do something to fix up the ship. We will see though.
They still haven't explored the whole ship so there might be something good in there.
I was hoping that on the seed ship the stargate factory would actually be running. That would look so cool.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;26496387]I was hoping that on the seed ship the stargate factory would actually be running. That would look so cool.[/QUOTE] When we got to see the inside of the seed ship, all we saw of the stargate construction process was the big room where the new stargates were stored. They haven't shown or said anything to suggest that the factory isn't working, have they?
Well considering there was one there that was only half assembled and nothing was going, I assume the factory is at least shut down. It may or may not be functional.
Everyone time I see chole on screen I think what a terrible actor she is. :<
Maybe not a terrible actor, but definitely a pretty bad character.
Just good to look at. But pissed off to hear her talk.
I want to see her find out about Matt sleeping with Tits McGee while under the influence of the alien stuff.
Has anyone here watched the Kino webisodes? They're pretty good, especially number 24... [editline]6th December 2010[/editline] Also, seeing as you guys seem to like talking about Chloe, maybe you can tell me where she got her current clothes from? In the first few episodes she was wearing a dress and knee-high boots... They can't have brought her current stuff with them in the expedition supplies could they?
Yes, they could. Why does the clothing seem to bother you, on the characters, mostly focus on the show itself, rather what they wear. They obviously had clothing in those bags when they left that planet before it exploded
I think it's actually rather hilarious that a live action show is doing like a cartoon in which everyone wears the exact same clothes every episode.
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