• Vegetarians - Your thoughts on them
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I've been a vegetarian since I was 5. I'm the only one in my family - when I was little, I realized that chicken and chickens were the same thing and thought it was gross to eat dead animal. 15 years later, here I am, still vegetarian. I'm healthy, I'm happy, and I don't push my views on people so I wish people would give me the same respect.
[QUOTE=Robbobin;34587781]It cannot possibly be two incompatible things at once. And if you believe morality can be anything you want, what's the fucking point in partaking in ethical discussion?[/QUOTE] I don't think it's morally wrong to eat animals. You think it's morally wrong to eat animals. Two completely different views on the same subject, that doesn't mean that only one of us is using the term correctly.
[QUOTE=Simski;34587927]I don't think it's morally wrong to eat animals. You think it's morally wrong to eat animals. Two completely different views on the same subject, that doesn't mean that only one of us is using the term correctly.[/QUOTE] That's because you're using a balls up retarded kind of morality pluralism which is philosophically useless.
[QUOTE=Robbobin;34587941]That's because you're using a balls up retarded kind of morality pluralism which is philosophically useless.[/QUOTE] Why start a debate on what's morally right and wrong if you're aware of how useless the term is then? [editline]7th February 2012[/editline] "Morals" is basically just a fancy word for "emotional opinion".
[QUOTE=Simski;34587981]Why start a debate on what's morally right and wrong if you're aware of how useless the term is then?[/QUOTE] [I]I'm[/I] not, you are. Pluralism is just a silly untenable position.
Eh. This shit is getting too deep for me at the moment, let's just get back to discussing why eating animals is comparable to rape.
Because it's an act of unprovoked physical violence.
[QUOTE=Bassplaya7;34587824]I've been a vegetarian since I was 5. I'm the only one in my family - when I was little, I realized that chicken and chickens were the same thing and thought it was gross to eat dead animal. 15 years later, here I am, still vegetarian. I'm healthy, I'm happy, and I don't push my views on people so I wish people would give me the same respect.[/QUOTE] That's interesting. Has anyone ever made you feel uncomfortable because of your views? or bothered you about them
[QUOTE=Robbobin;34588079]Because it's an act of unprovoked physical violence.[/QUOTE] We don't eat rape victims for survival though.
[QUOTE=Simski;34588148]We don't eat rape victims for survival though.[/QUOTE] Well, on farms, roosters gang-rape hens all the time. Seen it on my cousin's farm. Just sayin (not that it's relevant to the debate). (this is assuming you eat chickens lol)
[QUOTE=Simski;34588148]We don't eat rape victims for survival though.[/QUOTE] so?! that's literally nothing to do with the point I'm making. rape is immoral because it's an act of unprovoked physical violence. do you disagree?
[QUOTE=Robbobin;34588186]so?! that's literally nothing to do with the point I'm making. rape is immoral because it's an act of unprovoked physical violence. do you disagree?[/QUOTE] Nope. There's plenty more reasons why it's immoral.
No there isn't. List some more reasons why it's immoral and I'll refute them.
I have nothing against vegetarians, but on a practical level, dating a vegetarian sucks. She doesn't push it on me and is happy for me to eat as much/little meat as I want, but it makes eating out so much harder than it is with friends who aren't vegetarian. Most places really don't have extremely vegetarian friendly menus... maybe 2 or 3 options when the menu is about 30 strong. Add in a slight fussiness and it really makes going to restaurants a big planning operation.
Couldn't give a rat's arse about it. It's their choice, i'd be the last one to give them shit for it. I find it rather unusual that such a surprising number of people seem to get offended by their mere existence, though there's quite a few vegetarians like that, as well. Guess it's just the usual human "my group is better than your group" thing.
[QUOTE=Robbobin;34588212]No there isn't. List some more reasons why it's immoral and I'll refute them.[/QUOTE] Well, it's emotionally traumatizing, and not a very good way of putting food on your plate (unless you're alright with eating babies). [editline]7th February 2012[/editline] I'll argue with you later, I have to go to my class now.
I don't like the concept of eating meat (that an animal has to die for it) but I am no vegetarian. I simply don't have the willpower to give up so much of the food I love. I never will. Vegetarians are fine in my eyes as long as they don't start preaching to me. I would never make fun of someone for being vegetarian.
I've been a vegetarian since I was a kid and I used to get a bit of shit because I'd never even tried meat. Eventually I tried some just to say I had and it was shit. I eat plenty fine without having to scarf down dead animals. I might need a couple of extra vitamin tablets and a [i]lot[/i] of lentils but otherwise it's no different nutrition-wise from carnivores.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34586929]Don't you guys have any balls? How about standing up for your reasons to eat meat and not be afraid of having an argument? You're just looking for reasons to piss on vegetarians.[/QUOTE] Fine. Eat meat, it's much more healthier for you then being a vegan. Most animal kills these days are usually humane. Plus it's mother fucking delicious in my fucking burgers.
I don't care about what anyone eats, as long as they don't bitch that I eat meat or whatever. And to those PETA assholes, fuck off. You might start to have a point when you stop killing the cats and dogs you pick up.
I'm a vegetarian and I have my family eating meat in front of me every single day and I don't really care. It's their choice, I'm not gonna force anything on them. Some vegetarians make all vegetarians look like a bunch of idiots, which is one of the reasons why so many people are against vegetarians. A good example for this, is Onision from YouTube. Probably one of the biggest douches I've ever seen. He means all meat eaters should die and vegetarians and omnivores can't possibly be friends. He's wrong in so many ways. Also, just thought I'd post this here in case some people still don't know: [url]http://www.petakillsanimals.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Simski;34587674]Morality does not have a definition. So yes, it can be based on your own opinion or it can be based on what's best for the greater good.[/QUOTE] It's that time again children. It's time for...meta-ethics! A round of applause please for my guests; Plato, Ayer and Nietzsche.
I eat meat purely because it tastes nice and I'm suspicious of anybody who says otherwise. I'm pretty sure that I could live without meat, I've known a few vegetarians and they're all pretty healthy, I just don't want to.
I'm a vegetarian, I have no problem with people eating or enjoying meat. But I flip my shit when somebody claims to be a vegetarian yet he/she eats fish and/or chicken.
[QUOTE=WeedLion;34588742]I'm a vegetarian and I have my family eating meat in front of me every single day and I don't really care. It's their choice, I'm not gonna force anything on them. Some vegetarians make all vegetarians look like a bunch of idiots, which is one of the reasons why so many people are against vegetarians. A good example for this, is Onision from YouTube. Probably one of the biggest douches I've ever seen. He means all meat eaters should die and vegetarians and omnivores can't possibly be friends. He's wrong in so many ways. Also, just thought I'd post this here in case some people still don't know: [url]http://www.petakillsanimals.com/[/url][/QUOTE] You are just like my uncle, he is a vegetarian but yet he still cooks meat whenever we go to his house, he still does not tell us why he never eats meat. but those shove pictures of battery hens in your face every 5 second types who bitch and whine about how eating meat is evil have a special place in the underworld waiting for them.
I hate vegetarians, there's no reason [b]not[/b] to eat meat, we're designed for it, we're omnivores for fucks sake, it's like driving a car but refusing to turn right so you take all kinds of weird alternate routes to the same destination. Also if you're only reason for being a vegetarian is because we kill animals to get the meat you're extremely ignorant, you not eating meat isn't going to stop companies from butchering millions of cattle/chickens/pigs every year.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;34590537]I hate vegetarians, there's no reason [b]not[/b] to eat meat, we're designed for it, we're omnivores for fucks sake, it's like driving a car but refusing to turn right so you take all kinds of weird alternate routes to the same destination. Also if you're only reason for being a vegetarian is because we kill animals to get the meat you're extremely ignorant, you not eating meat isn't going to stop companies from butchering millions of cattle/chickens/pigs every year.[/QUOTE] Designed for meat? Is that why vegetarians die at the age of- oh wait, no they don't. We can live perfectly fine without meat. I don't eat it and I am perfectly healthy. I don't care that people eat meat, I don't dislike anybody for what they eat. The fact that you hate somebody before you even know them, purely because they won't eat what you eat is stupid. Sorry, me not eating meat must have effect on the other 6.6bn people in the world. I'm extremely ignorant for not liking what you like.
i don't mind vegetarians or vegans, however i don't like the extremist ones who try to shove their anti-meat bullshit down my throat.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;34590537]I hate vegetarians, there's no reason [b]not[/b] to eat meat, we're designed for it, we're omnivores for fucks sake, it's like driving a car but refusing to turn right so you take all kinds of weird alternate routes to the same destination.[/QUOTE] No it isn't.
[QUOTE=NeoDement;34591058]No it isn't.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is, they have to eat specified vegetables/fruits to get enough protein and other important things. There's a reason people that just jump into vegetarianism with zero research can end up with health problems.
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