• James Bond SKYFALL - (1/11/12)
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the bond girl had better be hot. i can't remember for quantum because that one kind of sucked but i can for casino. vesper=best bond girl ever. period. and i like the idea of some quirky little twirp being Q instead of some wise old guy. sort of represents the coming of the new era in Britain, from a "a house with a room and a view" to guy richie and trainspotting.
[QUOTE=Vallux;36050687]I suppose [sp] Skyfall is some super secret MI6 thing, where Bond kills a metric shit ton of British nationals [/sp][/QUOTE] Skyfall has been stated to refer to the Bond Family home, Skyfall lodge. [sp]stills show Bond fighting in the Lodge, my guess would be that this an "the enemy is closer to home" kind of thing[/sp]
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;36050828]the bond girl had better be hot. i can't remember for quantum because that one kind of sucked but i can for casino. vesper=best bond girl ever. period. and i like the idea of some quirky little twirp being Q instead of some wise old guy. sort of represents the coming of the new era in Britain, from a "a house with a room and a view" to guy richie and trainspotting.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2966102/[/url] Judge for yourself. There's also Moneypenny, not sure if she counts though.
[QUOTE=TheLolrus;36050825]Is Quantum supposed to be the modern version of SPECTRE or something?[/QUOTE] Sort of.
[QUOTE=BenJammin';36046761]I think I am one of the few people who hate Daniel Craig as bond. He just feels so cold and generic, feels nothing like previous bonds at all and completely breaks the whole point of the character.[/QUOTE] That's probably because the previous bonds broke the point of the character, then Craig came along and fixed it. Timothy Dalton gave it a go.
[QUOTE=BenJammin';36046761]I think I am one of the few people who hate Daniel Craig as bond. He just feels so cold and generic, feels nothing like previous bonds at all and completely breaks the whole point of the character.[/QUOTE] It doesn't break the point of the character ffs. I don't know how many times I've had to shoot this line of thinking down in this forum. The almost cartoon like cardboard cutout character you seen for 20 or so films is not what the original character, as wrote by ian fleming is intended to be. Dalton attempted a darker more accurate portrayal of bond before, as much as he could with in the confines of studio pressures, but Craig is easily the most accurate bond so far. This is just like when we had that thread of people crying like bitches because the dumb martini drink schtick was going to be axed. Martinis were never a staple of the Ian Fleming novels, he actually drank whiskey more often. He's a government employed professional killer, of course he's supposed to be cold and calculated. I can't be the only one who thinks Bond is better played as more or less a driven sociopath.
Dalton was a great Bond, underrated.
[QUOTE=D3vils Buddy;36041330][B]Ben Whishaw [/B]as [B]Q[/B], gadget guy. [B]Q[/B] provides Bond with all his high tech gadgets and weapons in the previous films. [t]http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Brideshead+Revisited+UK+film+Premiere+2JBNWc4W4y7l.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] what That's not Q [img]http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/James_Bond_films_Qs.jpg[/img] THIS is Q. He's a relatively old man, a professional scientist. Not some kid. Get it right.
craig doesnt really look like my view of bond, imo brosnan fits more with my mental image but craig is still A Good Actor craig has the wrong face shape, not rectangular enough or something
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;36058166]It doesn't break the point of the character ffs. I don't know how many times I've had to shoot this line of thinking down in this forum. The almost cartoon like cardboard cutout character you seen for 20 or so films is not what the original character, as wrote by ian fleming is intended to be. Dalton attempted a darker more accurate portrayal of bond before, as much as he could with in the confines of studio pressures, but Craig is easily the most accurate bond so far. This is just like when we had that thread of people crying like bitches because the dumb martini drink schtick was going to be axed. Martinis were never a staple of the Ian Fleming novels, he actually drank whiskey more often. He's a government employed professional killer, of course he's supposed to be cold and calculated. I can't be the only one who thinks Bond is better played as more or less a driven sociopath.[/QUOTE] This, so much this.
Finally the trailer gets released. This Bond looks pretty good, but I already have an issue: Q- This has been mentioned already that Q should be played by an older actor. Since I haven't seen the actor's previous work nor have I seen his version of Q, I am reserving my judgement. A bit.
eh the new bond girl... there's something wrong with her i can't place my finger on. her face and her figure. she's a bit to wide...
the trouble with Bond fans, they nit-pick way too much.
normally bond girls have that very slim figure, it represents the whole damsel in distress thing. i mean the girls look like they can handle themselves normally but they're thrown into this wild situation most of the time and almost all bond girls end up getting into trouble one way or another. it's a subconscious thing. a pretty little thing can be deadly but because of her size she's still vulnerable and clearly extremely feminine. basically what i'm trying to say is a smaller frame is preferable on a bond girl for many different reasons
What in the fuck are going on about?
bond girls need to be skinny to subconsciously cater to the whole damsel in distress theme that eventually permeates every bond movie. in the mind: Skinny=frail=can't protect herself or at least not well enough to need help from some dashing british looker Big=strong=could probably do without bond just fine
You kinda have a point there. I never really focused on the whole psychological aspect of it. It was always the hot chick with a gun mentality for me.
I really don't like Craig as Bond. Maybe it's just because I'm used to Connery. He's a bit more bearable when I think the theory that James Bond is nothing but a code name is true.
The thing about the new bond is that it can't possible ruin the franchise because its not changing the older films in anyway, its far better for Craig to be the way he is rather than being another clone of the movie stereotype smooth action hero. Its important the film series doesn't stagnate or else each film will end up looking like a parody of the original ones. As for the idea that that the woman should be skinny thats just ridiculous and pretty sexist, regardless of the reason you put behind.
I don't get how people don't understand the theme of the reboot anyway. In casino royale (which was very well made), he's a rookie 00, recruited straight out of the SAS. The whole point of that film is to see bond before he finds his groove, he's rough around the edges, brash, arrogant and gets emotionally attached to the situation. He fucks up several times throughout the film badly. The Vesper character was pivotal in this because it's her betrayal and death that shapes what he becomes. Quantum of Solace (yes it's a shit movie, there is no argument there, but keep in mind it was made during the writers strike, it was the director and craig literally attempting to write things as they went along) takes place directly after CR. I just like to pretend this film doesn't exist. 1 hit, 1 miss. I'd say wait until Skyfall comes out before you start deriding this reboot. [editline]23rd May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=CheeserCrice;36068707] As for the idea that that the woman should be skinny thats just ridiculous and pretty sexist, regardless of the reason you put behind.[/QUOTE] > complaining about sexism while watching James Bond movies What are you doing son
Each person who played Bond took a different direction. People struggle to accept differences and can't get over it. Ian Fleming only managed to see Dr No, and he hated it. It's clear he thought Connery was a vast mis-interpretation. Therefore there is no "right" Bond here. That being said, Dan is the man. Pierce was pretty much himself in his movies, watch The Thomas Crown Affair if you don't believe me.
[QUOTE=AK'z;36071899]Each person who played Bond took a different direction. People struggle to accept differences and can't get over it. Ian Fleming only managed to see Dr No, and he hated it. It's clear he thought Connery was a vast mis-interpretation. Therefore there is no "right" Bond here. That being said, Dan is the man. Pierce was pretty much himself in his movies, watch The Thomas Crown Affair if you don't believe me.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=JaegerMonster;36071334]I don't get how people don't understand the theme of the reboot anyway. In casino royale (which was very well made), he's a rookie 00, recruited straight out of the SAS. The whole point of that film is to see bond before he finds his groove, he's rough around the edges, brash, arrogant and gets emotionally attached to the situation. He fucks up several times throughout the film badly. The Vesper character was pivotal in this because it's her betrayal and death that shapes what he becomes. Quantum of Solace (yes it's a shit movie, there is no argument there, but keep in mind it was made during the writers strike, it was the director and craig literally attempting to write things as they went along) takes place directly after CR. I just like to pretend this film doesn't exist. 1 hit, 1 miss. I'd say wait until Skyfall comes out before you start deriding this reboot. [/QUOTE] Spot on, Bond is played pretty differently from version to version. I think that Craig is the best Bond so far, but that is probably because I much prefer the dark and gritty style of his Bond.
craig is the best bond because he's the most realistic. now when i watch any other bond film besides casino royale it feels cheesy like it's known it's jumped the shark and gets pretty fucking ridiculous. craig's performance is tangible, it's human. it feels a lot more like he's what he is, a highly trained wetworking goon with incredible talent, who's also extremely swanky at the same time. all the other bonds were caricatures of this giant big brass balls superman except dalton. but dalton imo kinda sucked so he didn't get it right the first time around. [QUOTE=CheeserCrice;36068707]As for the idea that that the woman should be skinny thats just ridiculous and pretty sexist, regardless of the reason you put behind.[/QUOTE] sexist? fuck yes! ridiculous, fuck no. the male and female psyche have been conditioned for thousands of years by other people to influence their minds in many ways. it's subconscious for most, so don't get all up in my shit because you don't agree. it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of a fact about an opinion.
he's not most realistic, he's most human.
that's what i mean by realistic. he actually seems like someone who could exist in real life.
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;36085939]craig is the best bond because he's the most realistic. now when i watch any other bond film besides casino royale it feels cheesy like it's known it's jumped the shark and gets pretty fucking ridiculous. craig's performance is tangible, it's human. it feels a lot more like he's what he is, a highly trained wetworking goon with incredible talent, who's also extremely swanky at the same time. [/QUOTE] i remember watching moonraker for the first time last year, it was the most contrived unrealistic shit ever thats why i love casino royale
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;36086993]that's what i mean by realistic. he actually seems like someone who could exist in real life.[/QUOTE] You did actually say he's more human, i just can't read.
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[QUOTE=D3vils Buddy;36046306]M's name is revealed in Casino Royale, when Bond breaks into her house you can briefly see her name on a sheet of paper.[/QUOTE] I need to rewatch Casino Royal then.
i think it's too distorted to actually read her name.
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