• What Happened to WTC Building 7 on 9/11?
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still waiting on any kind of evidence for your claim here dragon
[QUOTE=cccritical;24872707]still waiting on any kind of evidence for your claim here dragon[/QUOTE] Claim of what? Oh...Right you mean slendy?? He is in the tub at the moment.
[QUOTE=Dragon Master;24871520]No it turns people into Tyrants, The rich get richer and more brutal, the poor get poorer and weaker. [i]Leading envitably to the collapse of social stability.[/i] Which is the aim of a terrorist![/QUOTE] Someday our friendly little gentleman/gentlewoman/gentlemaster will grow up to become a politician :v: So far you had one legimit post, imo. This blunt texted, though the society wouldn't become more unstable if the richer got richer. As long as there are rich people they will hire(/enslave) cheap manpower, THUS is the aim of a real terrorist. Real terrorists work without being noticed, there are many terrorist organizations in this world. Some of them fight just to make terror (for religious reasons or not) there by skipping their rational thoughts. More organizations just fight because they get paid. However, this has nothing regarding the topic at all. So I will eagerly await my ban.
[QUOTE=Dragon Master;24871318] [B]I just highlighted something looking suspisous, why were the 2 buildings labeled "WTC" flattened when there were buildings that are closer and were unscaved?[/B][/QUOTE] Of course the sides that weren't facing the twin towers look unscathed, but from that angle you can't see the sides that [I]did [/I]face the towers. For all you know they could have been torn to shit.
Dragon, tell me who's gotten rich off of 9/11 that supports any of your batshit insane "SHADOW GOVERNMENT INSIDE JOB" theories [editline]09:39PM[/editline] besides any middle-east terrorist organizations or China
For those of you who still think WTC7 should have fallen sideways try this out. Arrange dominoes in a grid like structure 15 high. Now take out some in the middle to represent fire damage. To keep you from saying "OH well there was no fire!" Only take out 2 or 3, as even a small fire would take out some. Now hit the corner with a pencil, just like a steel beam. Did it tip over sideways? No, some fell slightly to the outside but for the most part they all fell on top of each other inward.
[QUOTE=The Vman;24872949]Of course the sides that weren't facing the twin towers look unscathed, but from that angle you can't see the sides that [I]did [/I]face the towers. For all you know they could have been torn to shit.[/QUOTE] The Verizon Building is a 32-story Art Deco building in New York City, located in Lower Manhattan. It is named for Verizon Communications, for which it is the headquarters.[2] The building is located at 140 West Street, adjacent to the World Trade Center site and 7 World Trade Center, and is bounded by Barclay, Washington, and Vesey Streets. The building experienced major damage in the September 11, 2001 attacks. Its thick masonry exterior and use of masonry to protect steel columns and structural elements helped the building withstand the attacks. [i]Restoration of the building after the attacks took three years, at a cost of $1.4 billion.[/i] Obviously atleast the Verizon took damage :P [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Building[/url] According to wikipedia ^,^. But my experience tells me that wikipedia can be somwhat fact wrong :0 Can't be arsed to look up the verizon official building schemes again..
[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24858508]WTC wasn't demolished nor was the US government involved in destroying it, but 9/11 is just a minor crime - the US government has committed far serious crimes including crimes against humanity before.[/QUOTE] The Government caused the Indonesian tsunami am I right bro? :downs:
[QUOTE=Dolton;24873123]For those of you who still think WTC7 should have fallen sideways try this out. Arrange dominoes in a grid like structure 15 high. Now take out some in the middle to represent fire damage. To keep you from saying "OH well there was no fire!" Only take out 2 or 3, as even a small fire would take out some. Now hit the corner with a pencil, just like a steel beam. Did it tip over sideways? No, some fell slightly to the outside but for the most part they all fell on top of each other inward.[/QUOTE] You can't compare a building like WTC 7 with dominoes.
[QUOTE=Dolton;24873154]The Government caused the Indonesian tsunami am I right bro? :downs:[/QUOTE] look at his ban history I think he gets aroused when people call him out on the irony of his name
[QUOTE=cccritical;24872950]Dragon, tell me who's gotten rich off of 9/11 that supports any of your batshit insane "SHADOW GOVERNMENT INSIDE JOB" theories [editline]09:39PM[/editline] besides any middle-east terrorist organizations or China[/QUOTE] I'm not saying it was a Government Planned inside job, I am saying that what was stopping someone living on USA soil from planning the whole thing. Ok, you probably like "wtf is he talking about? [B]Scenario:[/B] Big time Mafioso Boss wants to earn big money doing whatever they can, no matter who gets hurt. We will refer to him as ("Mr.Boss") Mr.Boss calls contacts in Russia, to arrange kidnapping of Family members to a Taliban soldier. Taliban soldier is told to Hijack Planes in return for family's release. Taliban soldier thinks "I was gonna blow myself up anyway" so he is inclined to agree. Mr.Boss sees the Buildings collapse on TV, somebody is going to need to clean the mess up. Mr.Boss sends his Possey to put the muscle on Government officials, to say "Blaim the Taliban". Mr.Boss' Salvage company is given the contract to clean up the mess, making him Millions of Dollars. He is a crime lord and doesn't care about the cost of what he has done. Mr.Boss is Rich, Scot free and has a contract to make even more money. [B]THE END[/B] Now, that may be farfetched? but think about it? it sounds plausable. If the Taliban could plan to Hijack planes etc... and plan co-ordinated attacks as such on foreign lands. With the technology and order you see on TV? why havent they done it again? Why are there K/D ratios so low and havng to resort to using booby traps? I seriously think the Infrastructure of the Taliban is hardly the cause of foreign chaos, That is why I think it was an inside job. Somebody...Probably american, Planned it out. It is too sophisticated for people who hide in caves.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;24808907]OP already has his mind set on there being a conspiracy. No amount of facts and logic is going to change that.[/QUOTE] And you've already got your mind set on every "conspiracy," no matter what it is, being wrong. No amount of facts and logic will change your opinion, either. But you're exempt, of course. Just like everyone else who thinks every small ulterior motive translates to "conspiracy." [QUOTE=ketchup;24808925]Not with a raging fire inside slowly demolishing it almost as explosive charges would.[/QUOTE] Uh...just curious, how is a fire similar to a massive concussive force throwing shrapnel everywhere?
Some terrorist organization took the blame for the bombings though, I can't really remember which organization it was though :v: It was such a long time ago since I cared about these matters. :downs:
[QUOTE=Dragon Master;24873251] [B]Scenario:[/B] Big time Mafioso Boss wants to earn big money doing whatever they can, no matter who gets hurt. We will refer to him as ("Mr.Boss") Mr.Boss calls contacts in Russia, to arrange kidnapping of Family members to a Taliban soldier. Taliban soldier is told to Hijack Planes in return for family's release. Taliban soldier thinks "I was gonna blow myself up anyway" so he is inclined to agree. Mr.Boss sees the Buildings collapse on TV, somebody is going to need to clean the mess up. Mr.Boss sends his Possey to put the muscle on Government officials, to say "Blaim the Taliban". Mr.Boss' Salvage company is given the contract to clean up the mess, making him Millions of Dollars. He is a crime lord and doesn't care about the cost of what he has done. Mr.Boss is Rich, Scot free and has a contract to make even more money. [B]THE END[/B][/QUOTE] That is the most idiotic theory I have ever heard. [quote]Why are there K/D ratios so low and havng to resort to using booby traps?[/quote]This isn't Call of Duty you moron. [B]EDIT: [/B]And here's some fuel for the fire: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ggMngNeSA&feature=related[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntBb02XtcvI[/media] Some physics based models on the WTC collapse if it was due to the fires.
[QUOTE=The Vman;24873440]That is the most idiotic theory I have ever heard. This isn't Call of Duty you moron.[/QUOTE] That isn't idiotic. It's more like a movie storyline. Apart from the whole "kidnapping" "Mr Boss has everything done for him" "he earns alot of cash by doing it" parts, it's a really logical theory. (and exclude the part of the Mafia boss, this has nothing to do with the Mafia) Yet again, highly unlikely, but it is possible.
[QUOTE=cccritical;24873247]look at his ban history I think he gets aroused when people call him out on the irony of his name[/QUOTE] I'll list them; [B]International TV networks[/B] - Broadcasting the News [B]Newspaper Companys[/B] - Spreading the News [B]Contruction Company's[/B] - Hired by government to find weaknesses in Building [B]Aero-Scientists[/B] - Specialist's that can name there own price to be hire to investigate. [B]The Politicians[/B] - Claiming Increased wages to cover "Stress" [B]People Buying US Company Shares[/B] - Can make massive returns in the future. [B]Pyrotecknic Specialists[/B] - Investigating also [B]Film Studios in Hollywood[/B] - They make millions exploiting the Story providing nothing to the victims. [B]Rival Airlines to the planes that hit towers[/B] - Scared to fly with same airline, Demorilises customers. [B]100s of TV programmes about 9/11[/B] - making money from sponsors etc... There are probably many more, but I can't think of atm, Probably cuz it's getting really late or "early" :v:
God some of you guys are hilarious. I think conspiracy theories are conspiracies.
[QUOTE=Dragon Master;24873531]I'll list them; There are probably many more, but I can't think of atm, Probably cuz it's getting really late or "early" :v:[/QUOTE] There's an old saying: Don't believe everything you see. There are alot of media-sources that come with false statements, no, even lies. Just to make things interesting. If you read the papers and you see the headlines are "Z0MG WTF BBQ Talibans sh00ted presidant" You'd most likely ignore it since it looks rather fake. But if they'd present it in a more fashionable way like. President has been shot. And the notes about the talibans would be somewhere else in the article, you'd believe it, right? Well that's still wrong, you should always lurk more to find out the truth about important matters.
[QUOTE=The Vman;24873440]This isn't Call of Duty you moron.[/QUOTE] NO shit? Really? I thought I was LIVIN' COD!! :downsbravo: You are one of those people that see something that looks out of place and critises to the EXTREME or Trolls. The Military Term is Kill / Death Ratio. In Iraq the Average K/D Ratio to the American Soldier was 16:1 16 dead terrorists, 1 US soldier died. [quote]Since the war started 28,000 insurgents have died (including saddam's iraqi soldiers during the invasion) and almost 19,000 are held by US forces, as well as a further 24,000 by Iraqi security forces. The coalition has suffered 4,500 casualties (roughly split 4,200 US, 180 British, 120 other). That would give you a ratio of roughly 14 enemy troops killed or captured for every 1 allied death.[/quote] [editline]04:30AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Swemon;24873515]Yet again, highly unlikely, but it is possible.[/QUOTE] Exactly the reason why it is the Perfect Crime, nobody will bother to investigate that theory.
[QUOTE=Dragon Master;24873531]I'll list them; [B]Rival Airlines to the planes that hit towers[/B] - Scared to fly with same airline, Demorilises customers. [/QUOTE] I don't think you realize how much 9/11 hurt [b]all[/b] airlines. It doesn't matter if their company is doing better than their rival if both of them are near bankrupt.
[QUOTE=Dragon Master;24873612]Exactly the reason why it is the Perfect Crime, nobody will bother to investigate that theory.[/QUOTE] Wait, I've come to a realization! IT MUST HAVE BEEN ALIENS! Just think! No rational person would suspect aliens, so nobody would bother to investigate if it was aliens! IT'S THE PERFECT CRIME!
[QUOTE=jeimizu;24873645]I don't think you realize how much 9/11 hurt [b]all[/b] airlines. It doesn't matter if their company is doing better than their rival if both of them are near bankrupt.[/QUOTE] Yes, I was thinking about that while I was typing, but couldn't be bothered hitting/holding backspace. [editline]04:35AM[/editline] [QUOTE=The Vman;24873671]Wait, I've come to a realization! IT MUST HAVE BEEN ALIENS! Just think! No rational person would suspect aliens, so nobody would bother to investigate if it was aliens! IT'S THE PERFECT CRIME![/QUOTE] Termalogically Speaking "Aliens" is another term for "immigrant" so ye I suppose it was Aliens. [B]Suck it![/B] [B]Click this link:[/B] [url]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+alien[/url] Top line says it all! [editline]04:38AM[/editline] [QUOTE=The Vman;24873671]Wait, I've come to a realization![/QUOTE] You Can't Win a Flaming War against me? [I]Nighty Night Facepunch, time to hit the hay![/I]
[QUOTE=Dragon Master;24873681]Termalogically Speaking "Aliens" is another term for "immigrant" so ye I suppose it was Aliens. [B]Suck it![/B] [B]Click this link:[/B] [URL]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+alien[/URL] Top line says it all! [editline]04:38AM[/editline] You Can't Win a Flaming War against me? [I]Nighty Night Facepunch, time to hit the hay![/I][/QUOTE] Gah, you got stupid all over my point. Since you are either phenomenally dumb and I have to spell it out for you, or you may have realized what I meant and are simply avoiding responding to me because you realize how dumb you were, the point is that crafting a theory around the least plausible explanation, simply because it's so implausible that nobody would suspect it, is completely idiotic, because you could simply replace the implausible story for another equally implausible story and the argument would stay the same. Hence the [B]SPACE[/B] alien analogy.
[QUOTE=mogul20478;24873567]God some of you guys are hilarious. I think conspiracy theories are conspiracies.[/QUOTE] These days, you get labeled as a conspiracy theorist for suggesting someone had an ulterior motive for something, no matter how slight. True, the "Clinton body count" [I]is[/I] a conspiracy, but you have to admit, a [I]lot[/I] of people dropped dead around. Somebody's got to tell me how Ron Brown died in a plane crash and ended up with a .45 caliber hole in his head...
[QUOTE=Dragon Master;24872644]Wow, Wow, Wow! Hold your Horses, Slender man is my room-mate. [editline]03:16AM[/editline] Sorry for That Error, I didn't realise I called them Towers.[/QUOTE] :frogsiren:
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[QUOTE=Dragon Master;24873612]NO shit? Really? I thought I was LIVIN' COD!! :downsbravo: You are one of those people that see something that looks out of place and critises to the EXTREME or Trolls. The Military Term is Kill / Death Ratio. In Iraq the Average K/D Ratio to the American Soldier was 16:1 16 dead terrorists, 1 US soldier died. [editline]04:30AM[/editline] Exactly the reason why it is the Perfect Crime, nobody will bother to investigate that theory.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] 16 dead terrorists, 1 US soldier died. [/QUOTE]God damnit, people like you drive me [I]insane[/I]. You think that all those people the American soldiers killed were terrorists? [I]There aren't that many terrorists in the whole fucking Middle East.[/I] They killed a mixture of Taliban insurgents, normal citizens, and political leaders. This whole "War On Terror" was never about terrorists. It's always been about oil, and trying to force our ideals on other people. Take a fucking current events class.
[QUOTE=The Vman;24873889]Gah, you got stupid all over my point. Since you are either phenomenally dumb and I have to spell it out for you, or you may have realized what I meant and are simply avoiding responding to me because you realize how dumb you were, the point is that crafting a theory around the least plausible explanation, simply because it's so implausible that nobody would suspect it, is completely idiotic, because you could simply replace the implausible story for another equally implausible story and the argument would stay the same. Hence the [B]SPACE[/B] alien analogy.[/QUOTE] [B]You Just Got ClusterFucked![/B]
[QUOTE=Dragon Master;24874019][B]You Just Got ClusterFucked![/B][/QUOTE] :frog:
[QUOTE=greendevil;24874017]God damnit, people like you drive me [I]insane[/I]. You think that all those people the American soldiers killed were terrorists?[/QUOTE] I don't care what you politically correctly call them, If they are an enemy of my Country and Society, They are terrorists. I couldn't care less if they are "technically called ...blah...blah....blah...". The war in IRAQ was about Oil, Afghanistan war was retaliation from New York and London Terrorist attacks. [editline]05:04AM[/editline] /thread [editline]05:06AM[/editline] these treads always end in an arguement, hey, if you think about it the terrorist's got us here too, cuz we are argueing about them. I don't wanna fall out with anyone, I am just stating my opinion. G'Night
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