• Formula 1 General - Yes, they do overtake.
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Sauber got a point as well with Wehrlein again. Magnussen drove like a fucking champ as well. This GP was amazing I got too heated at the end and had to walk around the room as it was coming to the finish.
Classification of this amazing GP who not watched it (or in my case - watched only 4/5 of it thanks to russian TV). [t]https://pp.userapi.com/c837520/v837520201/4c9a9/FjtYO9C7lgY.jpg[/t] This was fantastic. PS: Stroll - driver of the day (well deserved). :smile: [t]https://pp.userapi.com/c639528/v639528518/28b38/vfx5OugrZAI.jpg[/t]
what a race, holy shit.
FIA currently investigating the Vet / Ham incident again and they've cleared Hamilton of any wrong doing. When it first happened I was willing to give vet benefit of doubt as i don't think any driver would intentionnaly instigate a collision like that for fear of breaking their own car in the process, 10 seconds seemed fair, but after subsequent viewings I think the contact was deliberate, just because he took his hand of the wheel does not mean he did not knowingly set it on it's collision path. Be interesting to see what the verdict is.
[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;52410822]FIA currently investigating the Vet / Ham incident again and they've cleared Hamilton of any wrong doing. When it first happened I was willing to give vet benefit of doubt as i don't think any driver would intentionnaly instigate a collision like that for fear of breaking their own car in the process, 10 seconds seemed fair, but after subsequent viewings I think the contact was deliberate, just because he took his hand of the wheel does not mean he did not knowingly set it on it's collision path. Be interesting to see what the verdict is.[/QUOTE] I'm neither a Vettel or Hamilton fan but I think the time has passed since he already served a penalty. They should've taken more time to investigate the incident when it happened and made a more severe punishment if they felt necessary, nothing they do now will change the outcome of the race and it seems the push for further action from fans is more due to Hamilton having the head rest issue which negated the punishment on Vettel.
I feel he was lucky to get only a 10 second penalty. Even if Hamilton had brake checked him, you don't react like that
I wish we had a thread for MotoGP.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;52423865]I wish we had a thread for MotoGP.[/QUOTE] make one! or maybe we should consolidate it all under a motorsport thread?
Who's fuckin ready for Austria boys!
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52433228]Who's fuckin ready for Austria boys![/QUOTE] definitely. red bull ring is one of my favorite tracks and I'm excited to see where everyone stands after the meme race that baku was
Awesome race, the last few laps in particular, shame about Kvyat knocking everyone out though
[QUOTE=-Xemit-;52450231]Awesome race, the last few laps in particular, shame about Kvyat knocking everyone out though[/QUOTE] Dull race until the last few laps in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Leestons;52450262]Dull race until the last few laps in my opinion.[/QUOTE] the first 10 laps were good, last 10 laps were good. there's always a bit of a gap in the middle but there was plenty of overtaking, it's just that the media won't ever show the midfield or back, even with battles going on. they'd rather just show the top 4 moving in formation and talking about the .001 second difference in lap times and speculate about who's going where next season. kvyat's start and that double wreck was fucking disgraceful, and even though i like him, i'd be surprised if he keeps his spot over gasly for the next season. also, lots of video evidence that bottas jumped the start, but the fia's outdated processes mean he gets to keep it. seems a bit archaic imo.
He didnt jump the start. They compared his time that the car gave to the lights out, and he was outside the zone that was "humanly impossible" to react to the lights out. Time difference of seeing the lights out, to your brain processing and reacting, so it wasn't a jump. Just a miracle start for him.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52450645]He didnt jump the start. They compared his time that the car gave to the lights out, and he was outside the zone that was "humanly impossible" to react to the lights out. Time difference of seeing the lights out, to your brain processing and reacting, so it wasn't a jump. Just a miracle start for him.[/QUOTE] there is video evidence of bottas jumping the start. his wheels begin to move and his steering wheel LEDs confirm that he drops the clutch and begins to move right before the lights go out [url]https://media1.giphy.com/media/mrFmmvlvtfv1e/giphy.mp4[/url] you can clearly see in this gif that the lights on his wheel change before the lights go out. that means he dropped the clutch before he was supposed to. end of story. he either a. jumped the start by accident and got a one in a trillion luck strike by it just happening to line up with the lights, or b. he was just barely inside the error measurements of the FIA, but still jumped the start, even if the fia's tech didn't say he did. the fia have come out and said that the way they measure jump starts is via sensors in the track that measure the position of the car in its grid slot when the red lights come on. however, these sensors have a slight allowance for movement before the car is marked as jumping the start, in order to allow for clutch adjustment/downhill rolling, etc. so that someone who moves 1mm from their grid spot isn't marked as jumped due to some technical glitch. they don't consider video evidence or anything else, and only consult those grid sensors. imo, bottas jumped the start, but he just didn't jump it by enough to actually trip the fia's sensors, and therefore he didn't jump the start (technically).
[QUOTE=Zombii;52450845]there is video evidence of bottas jumping the start. his wheels begin to move and his steering wheel LEDs confirm that he drops the clutch and begins to move right before the lights go out [url]https://media1.giphy.com/media/mrFmmvlvtfv1e/giphy.mp4[/url] you can clearly see in this gif that the lights on his wheel change before the lights go out. that means he dropped the clutch before he was supposed to. end of story. he either a. jumped the start by accident and got a one in a trillion luck strike by it just happening to line up with the lights, or b. he was just barely inside the error measurements of the FIA, but still jumped the start, even if the fia's tech didn't say he did. the fia have come out and said that the way they measure jump starts is via sensors in the track that measure the position of the car in its grid slot when the red lights come on. however, these sensors have a slight allowance for movement before the car is marked as jumping the start, in order to allow for clutch adjustment/downhill rolling, etc. so that someone who moves 1mm from their grid spot isn't marked as jumped due to some technical glitch. they don't consider video evidence or anything else, and only consult those grid sensors. imo, bottas jumped the start, but he just didn't jump it by enough to actually trip the fia's sensors, and therefore he didn't jump the start (technically).[/QUOTE] The limit is 10 milliseconds before lights out for him to go. He went at 3 milliseconds, within that tolerance so it isn't considered a jump start.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52450879]The limit is 10 milliseconds before lights out for him to go. He went at 3 milliseconds, within that tolerance so it isn't considered a jump start.[/QUOTE] huh? do you mean after the lights go out? no one should be going before the lights go out. period. there are regulations that say you are not allowed to 'anticipate' the start. that's why the lights go out at a random interval after the lights go red.
[t]https://pp.userapi.com/c638228/v638228516/5911d/pKem1rFFUlk.jpg[/t][t]https://pp.userapi.com/c639120/v639120066/2f251/cMSIbQj6fR4.jpg[/t] Alonso is first! Justice has been served! :v: [sp]Sadly it's not race, or, at least, Q3...[/sp]
[QUOTE=PyrO_o;52470700][t]https://pp.userapi.com/c638228/v638228516/5911d/pKem1rFFUlk.jpg[/t][t]https://pp.userapi.com/c639120/v639120066/2f251/cMSIbQj6fR4.jpg[/t] Alonso is first! Justice has been served! :v: [sp]Sadly it's not race, or, at least, Q3...[/sp][/QUOTE] Even if it was Q3 he'd start last because of grid penalties :v:
Aaand Alonso got McLaren'd again :cry: Also that fucking last lap puncture for both Kimi and Vettel was so upsetting
"Is he trying to play bumper cars?" Well done Max.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52477776]"Is he trying to play bumper cars?" Well done Max.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;0q92O4antHs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q92O4antHs[/video]
Damn that's awesome I didn't know they uploaded the radio!
Hell of an FP1 so far.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52515307]Hell of an FP1 so far.[/QUOTE] i don't know if it's the temperature or what but they're going off all over the place
And we have the third temporary driver change of the year as Paul di Resta will be filling in for Felipe Massa for the rest of the weekend, as Massa was feeling unwell/ill during all Free Practice sessions, and thus withdrew after FP3. [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DF5We4lXsAAGDLQ.jpg[/t]
[IMG]https://pp.userapi.com/c841430/v841430491/c9d7/C5fzxy5QdOo.jpg[/IMG] Congrats Ferrari with pole. And McLaren, woah, finally in P3 both cars. Probably will both DNF or out of points but i reallly hope that Honda engines somehow will manage to work correctly and McLaren will get some points. :smile:
[t]https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/vote/_jcr_content/articleContent/image.img.jpg/1501423015222.jpg[/t] Yay Kimi
[t]https://pp.userapi.com/c638920/v638920013/4b8eb/P0c2u5yA9GA.jpg[/t] Yay Alonso. :v:
:v: [editline]31st July 2017[/editline] re-mirrored [vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/uvscmh.mp4[/vid]
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