• Equipment - What should you take when you go urbexing?
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As I said, I would get a Mag-lite upgrade and I did. When I went out urbexing with someone else he had the triple-a battery Lenser and the maglite was about as good even though it was using 2 D-cells.
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;31907345]MAKE SURE no one knows you're there. This is survival at its purest form.[/QUOTE] So you can trap yourself in rubble and never be seen again? I think it would be ideal to tell a buddy about it, so if you don't come back atleast someone knows where you are.
I would include a knife, in case you need to cut through something or ward off some crackhead, along with the other things you guys said here.
Just curious to ask. I know people here always say "I bring a gun "just in case". But what do Urbex people bring for self protection, incase they do have to face an organic danger. (No I don't urbex myself)
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;32690043]Just curious to ask. I know people here always say "I bring a gun "just in case". But what do Urbex people bring for self protection, incase they do have to face an organic danger. (No I don't urbex myself)[/QUOTE] Personally? A knife of some sort. Or, pepper spray. (don't have any though)
nothing. whack them with my tripod
Hit them with a maglite or my camera or tripod or anything else made of metal in my kit.
I never go alone, we always bring: Illumination: Multiple chem-lights (glow sticks) for room marking or danger marking, two TL-122-D Military Flashlights, Maglite Mini-Mag, Headlamp and Explorer Pro NOCX5 Night Vision Monocular. Footwear: Type-II Military Issued Combat Boots, Type-I Military Issue Jungle Boots, Wolverine Worksite Steel Toe Boots, 100% Cotton or Wool Socks. Safety Items: CVC and PASGT-V Body Armor. Works amazingly well against falls onto shape objects or possible stabbing or shooting threats. Got ours from family and trading, can pick it up online for cheap, heave leather work gloves with plastic liner to prevent contact with liquids or powders. Clothing: BDU/ACU or similar clothing. Designed for sustained wear in rough environment, reinforced knee and elbows, double stitched through-out, camouflage properties, multiple pockets, ect.... Tools: Crowbar, wire cutters, bolt cutters, Phillips and flat head screw drivers, lighter, road flare, small survival kit, radios or phones, respirators, knives, maps and schematics of the area (if available), multi-tools, ect... We also all wear LBE or LBV (military web gear), has tons of pouches and pockets, carry small ALICE packs for gear, canteens and camelbaks for water, energy bars and MRE's. Carry a change of normal clothing as well
^ bit OTT don't ya think mate bra wire is a must when exploring for me
[QUOTE=bye;32788831]^ bit OTT don't ya think mate bra wire is a must when exploring for me[/QUOTE] Most everything I carry is because I've learned it probably should be carried. Armor gives you protection from stabs, gun shots and falls onto sharp objects. Night Vision gives you the ability to see, but not be seen. I've gone in places when it was light out and come out and it's dark, night is when security at most places is heightened and using a flashlight to poke around is basically having an arrow point to you from overhead. All military equipment is designed and produced to last in extreme conditions, the addition of the fabric being camouflaged is a plus. If you know how to use it, you can blend into your surroundings and have people walk right by, BDU/ACU have tons of pockets, are designed for abrasions in a quick paced environment. I could buy some expensive light for this, or buy the $7 TL-122-D that i know is waterproof, shockproof, has a spare bulb, has three lens covers in red, blue and purple for use in Low-Light Level and No Light Level conditions to help keep your vision, has three points of contact to attach it to your gear, ect... LBE or LBV allows an even dispersion of equipment and gear weight across your body, that way no one part is carrying more than the other. Everything is within reach no matter were on your LBE/LBV. I'd rather be OTT then SOL. I've also been exploring/spelunking since I was quite young so I've had time to learn the pros and cons of what you bring.
exploring abandoned buildings is serious business
[QUOTE=bye;32806384]exploring abandoned buildings is serious business[/QUOTE] Srs bsns is srs. You've apparently never had an infected zombie hobo try to eat you. EDIT: I recently acquired two CDV Radiation Monitoring Meters which will probably be added to my kit. Can never be too sure if you'll run into a giant radioactive cockroach or the spider that bit Peter Parker.
[QUOTE=Tophat;31949950]So i'm guessing the 3M Spray Paint Respirator P95 ( [url]http://www.homedepot.ca/product/3m-spray-paint-respirator-p95/908087[/url] ) is completely useless for any urbex, and that i'll probably need the WORKHORSE Asbestos and lead respirator with cartridge ( [url]http://www.homedepot.ca/product/asbestos-and-lead-respirator-with-cartridge/900971[/url] )? Also, is carrying a retractable ladder with you a good idea? I suppose it depends on where I need to go. What kind of gloves do you recommend? Are there any good flash lights I can pick up somewhere around here? (I live in Canada) Also, do any of you recommend any types/brands of bag in particular?[/QUOTE] Sports equipment stores will usually sell wide-receiver gloves that are designed to grip a football, but are brilliant for climbing because they have so much grip.
[QUOTE=Weps;32812659]Srs bsns is srs. You've apparently never had an infected zombie hobo try to eat you.[/QUOTE] no I haven't but i've met plenty of real homeless people though and none of them have never tried to 'eat' me so i don't know what tree you're barking up
[QUOTE=bye;32818786]no I haven't but i've met plenty of real homeless people though and none of them have never tried to 'eat' me so i don't know what tree you're barking up[/QUOTE] That's good, get out, know the people, bring them baked goods. Well it's not good manners, besides they weren't infected zombie hobos, duh. Barking? I'm not a dog, dogs can't type. Besides, dogs don't bark at trees, let alone up them unless there is something of interest...like a cat. You're not a cat are you? Well of course not, cats can't type either. We're a bit off topic, better get back on. Well it's been nice chatting with you.
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I hate it when people tag buildings.
[QUOTE=Weps;32776948]I never go alone, we always bring: Illumination: Multiple chem-lights (glow sticks) for room marking or danger marking, two TL-122-D Military Flashlights, Maglite Mini-Mag, Headlamp and Explorer Pro NOCX5 Night Vision Monocular. Footwear: Type-II Military Issued Combat Boots, Type-I Military Issue Jungle Boots, Wolverine Worksite Steel Toe Boots, 100% Cotton or Wool Socks. Safety Items: CVC and PASGT-V Body Armor. Works amazingly well against falls onto shape objects or possible stabbing or shooting threats. Got ours from family and trading, can pick it up online for cheap, heave leather work gloves with plastic liner to prevent contact with liquids or powders. Clothing: BDU/ACU or similar clothing. Designed for sustained wear in rough environment, reinforced knee and elbows, double stitched through-out, camouflage properties, multiple pockets, ect.... Tools: Crowbar, wire cutters, bolt cutters, Phillips and flat head screw drivers, lighter, road flare, small survival kit, radios or phones, respirators, knives, maps and schematics of the area (if available), multi-tools, ect... We also all wear LBE or LBV (military web gear), has tons of pouches and pockets, carry small ALICE packs for gear, canteens and camelbaks for water, energy bars and MRE's. Carry a change of normal clothing as well[/QUOTE] My god. I thought people who brought MOLLE vests and shit when they urbex were full retard, but you actually bring fucking PASGT armor with you.
[QUOTE=that 1 guy.....;31519454]If you're worried about chemicals and abspestes pick up a PMK, M 15, or a GP 5/6/7. Thoses are good masks and will definantly protect ya. Make sure you pick up some NATO filters if it came with unsleaed ones.[/QUOTE] Horrible Idea, I doubt you'll need a whole face mask for it a respirator is fine. They get real unconfortable after a while. The rubber Russian masks are really only for for chemicals like tear gas or smoke, mold will attach itself to the NBC filters. If you actually need to use those masks in a NBC situation you won't last long.
[QUOTE=Weps;32776948]I never go alone, we always bring: Illumination: Multiple chem-lights (glow sticks) for room marking or danger marking, two TL-122-D Military Flashlights, Maglite Mini-Mag, Headlamp and Explorer Pro NOCX5 Night Vision Monocular. Footwear: Type-II Military Issued Combat Boots, Type-I Military Issue Jungle Boots, Wolverine Worksite Steel Toe Boots, 100% Cotton or Wool Socks. Safety Items: CVC and PASGT-V Body Armor. Works amazingly well against falls onto shape objects or possible stabbing or shooting threats. Got ours from family and trading, can pick it up online for cheap, heave leather work gloves with plastic liner to prevent contact with liquids or powders. Clothing: BDU/ACU or similar clothing. Designed for sustained wear in rough environment, reinforced knee and elbows, double stitched through-out, camouflage properties, multiple pockets, ect.... Tools: Crowbar, wire cutters, bolt cutters, Phillips and flat head screw drivers, lighter, road flare, small survival kit, radios or phones, respirators, knives, maps and schematics of the area (if available), multi-tools, ect... We also all wear LBE or LBV (military web gear), has tons of pouches and pockets, carry small ALICE packs for gear, canteens and camelbaks for water, energy bars and MRE's. Carry a change of normal clothing as well[/QUOTE] like 4 flashlights and night vision? And it seems like you're saying the ~~official~~ designations to seem like pro or something. And seriously? PASGT? why the shit would you need "camouflage" properties, if you get caught thats gonna make it seem terrible. Why would you need crowbar, wire cutter, bolt cutter, flare, survivalkit, ALICE pack, and MREs. You arent supposed to break and enter. A survival kit is made for like building fires and shit to survive, wouldn't you be in like close contact to civilization? Why would you want a lighter, I cannot think of a reason to make a fire inside of a building. This isn't like bear grylls shit, its going to a building, snapping some pics and leaving. [B]you didn't even mention bringing a camera[/B] [editline]6th November 2011[/editline] For some reason i think you're a person who tried helping and got over imaginative and used all the official names to make yourself seem knowledgeable.
[QUOTE=FPKawaii;33031215]My god. I thought people who brought MOLLE vests and shit when they urbex were full retard, but you actually bring fucking PASGT armor with you.[/QUOTE] Thanks for your comment I be sure to file it away in my DILLIGAF file for future reference, aka the trash can. If you wish to comment further please by all means, continue to suck wind. [QUOTE=oakman26;33158873]like 4 flashlights and night vision? And it seems like you're saying the ~~official~~ designations to seem like pro or something. And seriously? PASGT? why the shit would you need "camouflage" properties, if you get caught thats gonna make it seem terrible. Why would you need crowbar, wire cutter, bolt cutter, flare, survivalkit, ALICE pack, and MREs. You arent supposed to break and enter. A survival kit is made for like building fires and shit to survive, wouldn't you be in like close contact to civilization? Why would you want a lighter, I cannot think of a reason to make a fire inside of a building. This isn't like bear grylls shit, its going to a building, snapping some pics and leaving. [B]you didn't even mention bringing a camera[/B] [editline]6th November 2011[/editline] For some reason i think you're a person who tried helping and got over imaginative and used all the official names to make yourself seem knowledgeable.[/QUOTE] Pro...LMAO. Yeah I want to seem like pro about this, it's things I carry in an situation where I'm outside the normal parameters of society. Camouflage, is used to prevent detection and or capture...not for use after the fact. I have yet to be seen and or caught, then again I don't go off screaming into empty buildings so I can hear my voice echo. Breaking and Entering? They're tools for use in the event something catastrophic happened (i.e. partial building collapse) and I had to GTFO. As far as breaking and entering, you've already committed the crime of Trespassing. Someone or some entity owns the building or property you're Urbexing on, meaning you're Trespassing. They could also toss a lot of pages out of the book at you if they wanted, Destruction of Private or Public Property, Theft, ect... So regardless of what you bring, your ass is already toast in the aspect of legality. (As far as trespassing on military property...go ahead and do it, that's when the law starts taking chunks out of your ass end). As far as the survival kit and "lighter" it's for the same purpose as the tools, in the event of something catastrophic, purely prep items if "something bad" happened, not primary employable items. Armor can be very useful, it's until you've been in a situation where something has actually stabbed you (i.e. falling rebar) or you've run into some unsavory characters who brandish a firearm, then it's an understandable piece to bring with. (I didn't see you all attacking the moron who mentioned bringing a firearm Urbexing...yeah armor is something just "oh so horrible and bad in appearance", but a firearm, yeah that doesn't send a bad message to the authorities if you're caught). I imagine the majority of Urbexing on this forum isn't really Urbexing, but more so just trespassing, gigging about it while snapping some pictures so you can run and post it to a forum where everyone can giggle and share their stories about how they did the same thing, now that's ever so pro. Yeah, Urban Spelunking is fun and amusing but anything "pro". As far as my use of "official designations" it's a habit that's dying hard. Apparently I joined a forum of trolls and kiddies who think Urbexing is going outside and snapping pictures of pretty buildings and on occasion slipping over a fence to sneak around some ruins. It's funny, the majority jumps my back because I made a detailed listning of my carry items, but the debate of what flashlight and respirator continues on unabated by what appears to be resident trolls and aficionados. If you don't like my posts or what I carry, I offer this one piece of simplistic advice...blow me.
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[QUOTE=Weps;33172841] If you don't like my posts or what I carry, I offer this one piece of simplistic advice...blow me.[/QUOTE] i'd rather respectfully disagree
[QUOTE=bye;33172931][img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-jerkbag.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Oh fuck, you've figured out my whole scheme. If my intention had been to "seem pro" and "badass" it apparently butthurt enough wannabes around here.
My point is, I don't think its a good idea to urbex if you're going to have to do all that shit. Jsut for enjoyment it seems like a waste of money to buy shit just to go look in some old place with some asbestos.
[QUOTE=Weps;33172985]Oh fuck, you've figured out my whole scheme. If my intention had been to "seem pro" and "badass" it apparently butthurt enough wannabes around here.[/QUOTE] nah mate I just think you're a fuckwit
[QUOTE=Weps;33172841]Thanks for your comment I be sure to file it away in my DILLIGAF file for future reference, aka the trash can. If you wish to comment further please by all means, continue to suck wind. Pro...LMAO. Yeah I want to seem like pro about this, it's things I carry in an situation where I'm outside the normal parameters of society. Camouflage, is used to prevent detection and or capture...not for use after the fact. I have yet to be seen and or caught, then again I don't go off screaming into empty buildings so I can hear my voice echo. Breaking and Entering? They're tools for use in the event something catastrophic happened (i.e. partial building collapse) and I had to GTFO. As far as breaking and entering, you've already committed the crime of Trespassing. Someone or some entity owns the building or property you're Urbexing on, meaning you're Trespassing. They could also toss a lot of pages out of the book at you if they wanted, Destruction of Private or Public Property, Theft, ect... So regardless of what you bring, your ass is already toast in the aspect of legality. (As far as trespassing on military property...go ahead and do it, that's when the law starts taking chunks out of your ass end). As far as the survival kit and "lighter" it's for the same purpose as the tools, in the event of something catastrophic, purely prep items if "something bad" happened, not primary employable items. Armor can be very useful, it's until you've been in a situation where something has actually stabbed you (i.e. falling rebar) or you've run into some unsavory characters who brandish a firearm, then it's an understandable piece to bring with. (I didn't see you all attacking the moron who mentioned bringing a firearm Urbexing...yeah armor is something just "oh so horrible and bad in appearance", but a firearm, yeah that doesn't send a bad message to the authorities if you're caught). I imagine the majority of Urbexing on this forum isn't really Urbexing, but more so just trespassing, gigging about it while snapping some pictures so you can run and post it to a forum where everyone can giggle and share their stories about how they did the same thing, now that's ever so pro. Yeah, Urban Spelunking is fun and amusing but anything "pro". As far as my use of "official designations" it's a habit that's dying hard. Apparently I joined a forum of trolls and kiddies who think Urbexing is going outside and snapping pictures of pretty buildings and on occasion slipping over a fence to sneak around some ruins. It's funny, the majority jumps my back because I made a detailed listning of my carry items, but the debate of what flashlight and respirator continues on unabated by what appears to be resident trolls and aficionados. If you don't like my posts or what I carry, I offer this one piece of simplistic advice...blow me.[/QUOTE] What is "something bad" that could require a lighter? If you're at risk of being shot or stabbed, I think your version of urbexing is not the same as ours, so you should not give the people in the thread advice for your urbexing. The version of urbexing people in this thread have is apparently far different than yours, and apparently according to you inferior. Basically, don't give advice on the urbexing you don't do, I think your urbexing is too dangerous to enjoy, you shouldn't have to worry about getting killed in a hobby. And just wondering, what kind of camo do you wear? Because aren't most military camos for being not seen in like foliage and stuff, not dark buildings? You spend all this effort on protecting yourself from people but don't carry a gun or something? [editline]7th November 2011[/editline] Do you wear just the vest, or do you use SAPI?
[QUOTE=oakman26;33173045]My point is, I don't think its a good idea to urbex if you're going to have to do all that shit. Jsut for enjoyment it seems like a waste of money to buy shit just to go look in some old place with some asbestos.[/QUOTE] Majorly it's items I've had for years, most left over from a SAR career I got out of and then most of it was free. I can tell the majority of Urbex'ers here are "light". A good portion of cities in the US are sub-terrainian with miles of tunnels, shafts, crossways, empty aqueducts, ect... that's where I tend to explore. One of my specialties was urban search and rescue, I was working on confined space and structural rope rescue when I left. If you don't like me posting about it, then how about a simple PM to me? Jumping all over someone because they do something differently isn't generally met with openness from the offended party, especially when they're new to your forum. [QUOTE=oakman26;33173178]What is "something bad" that could require a lighter? If you're at risk of being shot or stabbed, I think your version of urbexing is not the same as ours, so you should not give the people in the thread advice for your urbexing. The version of urbexing people in this thread have is apparently far different than yours, and apparently according to you inferior. Basically, don't give advice on the urbexing you don't do, I think your urbexing is too dangerous to enjoy, you shouldn't have to worry about getting killed in a hobby. And just wondering, what kind of camo do you wear? Because aren't most military camos for being not seen in like foliage and stuff, not dark buildings? You spend all this effort on protecting yourself from people but don't carry a gun or something? [editline]7th November 2011[/editline] Do you wear just the vest, or do you use SAPI?[/QUOTE] A lighter would for the sole purpose of fire starting and nor for nefarious reason. It can get very cold and fire is the most universal and expedient way to warm yourself, plus it can be used to cook and keep away unwanted critters. Urbexing is actually something that's been around for decades (under the term "Urban Spelunking"), there are groups that get together and do it. I'm not into groups and it's not something I don't a a regular basis, it's more so a hobby I do when I have the time. I don't find lighter Urbexing inferior or stupid. I didn't attack anyone until I was attacked and quite on a personal level at that. Hence personal opinion, you don't think it's a enjoyable way to have a hobby. I think otherwise. Urbexing is dangerous to beginning with, exploring damaged, unoccupied and or condemned buildings can be dangerous and illegal. At any time a buildings structural support could give, collapsing and killing or entrapping you. Buildings are left unoccupied or closed for a reason, usually because of structural damage or age and the building has been deemed unsafe, no different than walking railroad tracks. I could die from inhaling the paint fumes I use to paint my model railroad engines with, death is a constant. Just more so in some situations. I have done plenty of more common Urbexing, just a camera, light and normal dress. Not much to expound on outside that I use my Android, a Mini-Mag and I usual wear jeans because it's what I wear normally. What attracted me was the talk of respirators, equipment and the like. Thought I'd just make a list of the things I carried with me when I go into an all out day exploration. There is a slew of camouflage that are designed for Urban areas, M81 Urban, NWU, MARPAT Urban, Urban Tiger Stripes, UCP, Urban Track, ASAT, ect... conflicts don't happen in just jungles and deserts. I usually wear M81 Woodland. The purpose of camouflage isn't to "disappear" but to blend in with you surroundings, break-up the human outline. The mix of color helps confuse the eyes into blending the colors in with the surrounding environment, whether it is foliage or a building. Carrying a gun is a big deal. It is illegal a lot of cities, it requires addition space and adds weight, then if you did shoot someone you have to report it, deal with the mental aspects of having shot another human being and then possibly face time in court. The armor is merely a preventive method, not a direct action against an aggressor, a gun ins't going to stop me from begins shot, but armor helps increase my survivability of against both projectiles and falling objects. I'd never wear SAPI, most SAPI are designed to stop larger small caliber projectiles or made to stop blunt force trauma (which can kill all on it's own without need of armor penetration). PASGT uses Kevlar which is a soft armor and only rated against handgun threats, it's ballistic NIJ rating is IIIA. Most SAPI are rated at III or IV (rifle threats). PASGT isn't even designed to carry SAPI, the ISAPO was made to supplement for the lack of SAPI in PASGT and I'm not going to walk around in hard armor.
You assume a majority of the 'urbexers' here are "light' Little presumptious aren't you? SAR background gotten you a little on your high horse
Why TL122s? They're from ww2 and seem more to collect than use. They use bulbs so they're weaker and break more than new flashlights. [editline]7th November 2011[/editline] Well if most urbexers here are "light" Than why give them "heavy" advice. [editline]7th November 2011[/editline] And still -How much does your PASGT weigh all together -How much stuff do you put on your ALICE -How are you going to avoid getting caught using "BDU and ACU" BDU was woodland and desert, ACU was UCP -Why TL122s when new flashlights are better and don't burn out bulbs -How many MREs do you take? -What kind of situation are you going to use a lighter in?
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