• The Facepunch Graphic Design Thread
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[QUOTE=rilez;30960430]My thought process goes like this: [LIST] [*]Get any information you can from the client about their business or whatever you're making a logo for. Read their website, figure out what they do... etc. [*]Think of something creative to incorporate, but also simple. I always start my logo in B/W and 2D. unless the client wants very specific colors or shapes. Messing with colors later won't save a shitty design. [*]Make it memorable, and make it easy to understand... simple logos are often better than complicated ones. [*]Hard points are preferable over rounded ones; you're going to want clean lines in your logo. [*]Colors are a bit more complicated. Your client will most likely want the logo in CMYK format for print. The less colors you have on a logo destined for print, the better. If your design is for print, stay away from gradients. Gradient's are okay on a display, not on print. If it's not destined for print, RGB and gradients should be fine. [*]Presentation is important too. If you have a client, you're going to want to show them what the logo looks like in a variety of situations... here's one I just designed (I posted a design for this company earlier, but they wanted a new symbol and I made some other minor changes): [/LIST] [IMG]http://99designs.com/designs/8738040-original[/IMG] Those are just a few of the things I do anyway.[/QUOTE] This is really great! I think this should definitely be in the highlights it's very useful.
Stop doing design contests... It's bad for the industry and devalues design work as a whole. I do this for a living and I've never had a need to step foot in a design contest. Spec work is a bad thing. [url]http://www.no-spec.com/[/url] [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] Also, saying hard edges are preferable to rounded edges in a logo is going to depend completely on the feel that your client wants their brand to portray. And gradients are acceptable for print. You don't have to avoid them completely. You just need a solid color fallback. It's the same as you needing a single color B/W fallback for any colored logo you design. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] Also definitely stop calling the people running contests your clients lol
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;30965875]Stop doing design contests... It's bad for the industry and devalues design work as a whole. I do this for a living and I've never had a need to step foot in a design contest. Spec work is a bad thing. [url]http://www.no-spec.com/[/url] [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] Also, saying hard edges are preferable to rounded edges in a logo is going to depend completely on the feel that your client wants their brand to portray. And gradients are acceptable for print. You don't have to avoid them completely. You just need a solid color fallback. It's the same as you needing a single color B/W fallback for any colored logo you design. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] Also definitely stop calling the people running contests your clients lol[/QUOTE] Didn't Garry do the same with the icon for Snabbo? -wewt is a schmuck-
[QUOTE=rilez;30960430]My thought process goes like this: [LIST] [*]Get any information you can from the client about their business or whatever you're making a logo for. Read their website, figure out what they do... etc. [*]Think of something creative to incorporate, but also simple. I always start my logo in B/W and 2D. unless the client wants very specific colors or shapes. Messing with colors later won't save a shitty design. [*]Make it memorable, and make it easy to understand... simple logos are often better than complicated ones. [*]Hard points are preferable over rounded ones; you're going to want clean lines in your logo. [*]Colors are a bit more complicated. Your client will most likely want the logo in CMYK format for print. The less colors you have on a logo destined for print, the better. If your design is for print, stay away from gradients. Gradient's are okay on a display, not on print. If it's not destined for print, RGB and gradients should be fine. [*]Presentation is important too. If you have a client, you're going to want to show them what the logo looks like in a variety of situations... here's one I just designed (I posted a design for this company earlier, but they wanted a new symbol and I made some other minor changes): [/LIST] [IMG]http://99designs.com/designs/8738040-original[/IMG] Those are just a few of the things I do anyway.[/QUOTE] lol I see nipples xD [editline]Edited:[/editline] so I used to do a bit of design work on and off but I've been out of it for a while, I definitely want to start it up again so that there's something to actually put on my Portfolio and maybe make a bit of money freelancing in the future - now I just need to find something to do... are there any websites or forums I can visit to get a bit of inspiration? [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] Oh, and, do people prefer Illustrator over Photoshop for logo designing?
I'm taking the Media and Communication-course in High School (starting my third year this fall) and along with shooting film and taking pics and coding web-sites there's also a fair share of graphic design. I thought I'd post some of my work. This is a logo I made for my father's company in the first year of school. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wTJzv.png[/IMG] later that year I designed a logo for a local carpenter. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MFy9o.png[/IMG] Layout design for a feature-article I did on a goofy band. Second year in school. [IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13290261/layoute.png[/IMG] and my online portfolio. [IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13290261/portfolio.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=kevlar jens;30966809]-kev's stuff-[/QUOTE] [img]http://gyazo.com/39880f6f24f7447c583755b0d5153366.png[/img] I've been there. Anywho, that's some great stuff. I particularly like your website and the magazine article. Keep at it, I wish we did stuff like that in school (this is why I'm considering taking Film & Media studies as an A-Level because it has a fair amount of hands on design stuff like that)
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;30965875]Stop doing design contests... It's bad for the industry and devalues design work as a whole. I do this for a living and I've never had a need to step foot in a design contest. Spec work is a bad thing. [URL]http://www.no-spec.com/[/URL] [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] Also, saying hard edges are preferable to rounded edges in a logo is going to depend completely on the feel that your client wants their brand to portray. And gradients are acceptable for print. You don't have to avoid them completely. You just need a solid color fallback. It's the same as you needing a single color B/W fallback for any colored logo you design. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] Also definitely stop calling the people running contests your clients lol[/QUOTE] My brother recommended the site to me, I had been doing some work for him and he thought I could make some money off of it... like I said before, I really don't know where to start. I don't like doing these contests either... if I knew a better alternative I wouldn't be using them. As for not calling them clients, what would I call them? Contest holders? :c
[quote][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5003648/Design/design.png[/img][/quote] [quote][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5003648/Design/design2.png[/img][/quote] Can't decide which one is better or if it's terrible altogether. It's just going to be used on my website when I get it working and could also be used as a watermark if I needed one for a video or a WIP or something.
[QUOTE=zerosix;30970195]Can't decide which one is better or if it's terrible altogether. It's just going to be used on my website when I get it working and could also be used as a watermark if I needed one for a video or a WIP or something.[/QUOTE] For the love of god be more subtle when using outer glow and drop shadow.
[QUOTE=Zay333;30972288]For the love of god be more subtle when using outer glow and drop shadow.[/QUOTE] it's supposed to have a widely spread shadow, and there is no outer glow
[QUOTE=zerosix;30972567]it's supposed to have a widely spread shadow, and there is no outer glow[/QUOTE] He's not saying that it isn't supposed to be widely spread, he's saying that it doesn't look good
[QUOTE=zerosix;30970195]Can't decide which one is better or if it's terrible altogether. It's just going to be used on my website when I get it working and could also be used as a watermark if I needed one for a video or a WIP or something.[/QUOTE] Well, That isn't a really smart logo. It's hard to adapt it to different situations. And I must agree with Zay333, use subtle outer glows and drop shadows, flashy, glossy things are SO 2004. For a personal logo, I'd recommend something really clean and outstanding, It's a better idea to use your name, or if you have an alias, use it as well. The point is that people remember your name. My personal logo for all things related to my work (webpage, portafolio, business card) is stupidly simple: [thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25318683/logo.png[/thumb] And that's what I like about it. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=kevlar jens;30966809] Layout design for a feature-article I did on a goofy band. Second year in school. [IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13290261/layoute.png[/IMG] [/QUOTE] That's an awesome layout.
[QUOTE=rilez;30967218]My brother recommended the site to me, I had been doing some work for him and he thought I could make some money off of it... like I said before, I really don't know where to start. I don't like doing these contests either... if I knew a better alternative I wouldn't be using them. As for not calling them clients, what would I call them? Contest holders? :c[/QUOTE] I like to call them cheap fuckers. Haha. :P Get out there and network. Contact local small business owners, check online job boards, check craigslist. Make some business cards and go to some small business networking events in your city or cities near you. I got a lot of work initially by contacting design firms and agencies in the area and just telling them who I am and what I do, agencies always need subcontractors to bring in when they get busy. Check [url]www.freelanceswitch.com[/url], there's tons of articles on there about better ways to find work. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] The key is to assert yourself as a professional and make sure that your clients and potential clients understand your value and know who you are.
[QUOTE=rilez;30967218]My brother recommended the site to me, I had been doing some work for him and he thought I could make some money off of it... like I said before, I really don't know where to start. I don't like doing these contests either... if I knew a better alternative I wouldn't be using them. As for not calling them clients, what would I call them? Contest holders? :c[/QUOTE] Have to agree with the post above, also how old are you? I often have troubles with that since I'm 18, but look waay younger. Some clients don't take me seriously until they see my work.
Do you guys know of any tutorials that could help me start out with logo design? (which program/how to use it etc)
[quote] [img]http://i.imgur.com/Iun74.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/C0lba.png[/img] [/quote] First one was done quite a ways back, I wasn't pleased with it at all (particularly the "R") and I never showed the client (my father's company). The second one was done more recently, and I think it looks much better. The client requested the letters J, A, and R be enclosed in either rings or chains, with the word "productions" somewhere underneath. Later, he also requested the date of establishment be added, so I squeezed that in there last second. I feel I accurately portrayed what he wanted. Any suggestions before it is shown? Please keep in mind that this isn't my "job" at all, I'm 17, and I have no formal graphic design education whatsoever.
[QUOTE=MrWhite;30976708]First one was done quite a ways back, I wasn't pleased with it and I never showed the client (my father's company). The second one was done more recently, and I think it looks much better. The client requested the letters J, A, and R be enclosed in either rings or chains, with the word "productions" somewhere underneath. Later, he also requested the date of establishment be added, so I squeezed that in there last second. I feel I accurately portrayed what he wanted. Any suggestions before it is shown?[/QUOTE] make the chain links a bit thicker, and use a more subtle gradient with a darker grey, right now it looks like a chain of office clips.
[QUOTE=barttool;30976551]Have to agree with the post above, also how old are you? I often have troubles with that since I'm 18, but look waay younger. Some clients don't take me seriously until they see my work.[/QUOTE] 20. I got hired to work for a firm downtown when I was 16 and started freelancing 6 months after that. I've had a lot of clients that were seriously surprised (in a good way) when they met with me and saw how young I was.
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;30977251]20. I got hired to work for a firm downtown when I was 16 and started freelancing 6 months after that. I've had a lot of clients that were seriously surprised (in a good way) when they met with me and saw how young I was.[/QUOTE] I started working at 15, doing some ads for newspapers. But I was really asking that to Rilez, thanks for the feedback though!
16, 17 on the 18th. I just get the feeling it would be a huge challenge to get anyone to take me seriously; my age, lack of any formal graphic design education and lack of a substantial portfolio being the key issues Do I think I could surprise people given the opportunity? I'd like to think so... but I need to find a starting point to work with. I'll check that website, and start looking around on Craigslist. All I know is that I want to get started somewhere; Graphic Design is the first thing that has ever really "clicked" for me.
I got bored so I made a logo for a non-existent airline company [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/ve58ip.png[/IMG]
[thumb]http://i.cubeupload.com/QT2fNu.jpg[/thumb] It needs to be a vector image, but Illustrator is so-o-o-o annoying.
[QUOTE=wewt!;30976658]Do you guys know of any tutorials that could help me start out with logo design? (which program/how to use it etc)[/QUOTE] If you're serious about graphic design, it's pretty obvious what program to use (Photoshop). Yet, there are free alternetives like Gimp and Paint.net. Also keep in mind that the best thing to do is keep practicing and trying to emulate other good examples and since you want to make logos, remember to make them noticeable and memorable using contrasting and complimenting colors (orange-blue,black-white,black-yellow or orange) and for the love of god don't overuse effects ( for example 'drop shadow' and 'glow' ).
[url]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5003648/Web/index.html[/url] Which one is looking the best here? Or should I just turn around and think up something else. It's pretty much only going to be used on a grey background like that so it doesn't have to be too adaptable.
[QUOTE=Zay333;30988006]If you're serious about graphic design, it's pretty obvious what program to use (Photoshop). Yet, there are free alternetives like Gimp and Paint.net. Also keep in mind that the best thing to do is keep practicing and trying to emulate other good examples and since you want to make logos, remember to make them noticeable and memorable using contrasting and complimenting colors (orange-blue,black-white,black-yellow or orange) and for the love of god don't overuse effects ( for example 'drop shadow' and 'glow' ).[/QUOTE] If you're serious about graphic design it's obvious that you use ILLUSTRATOR (or Flash) and Photoshop. Mainly Illustrator (or Flash).
[QUOTE=rilez;30981787]16, 17 on the 18th. I just get the feeling it would be a huge challenge to get anyone to take me seriously; my age, lack of any formal graphic design education and lack of a substantial portfolio being the key issues Do I think I could surprise people given the opportunity? I'd like to think so... but I need to find a starting point to work with. I'll check that website, and start looking around on Craigslist. All I know is that I want to get started somewhere; Graphic Design is the first thing that has ever really "clicked" for me.[/QUOTE] Yep, that's exactly the boat I was in at your age before I got hired at that firm. Honestly, read up on freelanceswitch.com there's a huge wealth of incredibly useful information on there. When I was younger what I would do was try to avoid face to face meetings and just not say anything about my age. When it comes down to it it's really not relevant at all if you have the proper skillset for the job. Put together a portfolio, and if you don't have enough work for that, do some personal projects and put those in it. Let your work do the speaking for you.
Rilez I could make you a [del]probably quite bad[/del] portfolio, then there's something to put on my portfolio. Though it's probably something you want to do yourself and I have other things on my plate right now - if you haven't done any web development before then I'm always here to take the easy way out.
[QUOTE=dgg;30988434]If you're serious about graphic design it's obvious that you use ILLUSTRATOR (or Flash) and Photoshop. Mainly Illustrator (or Flash).[/QUOTE] THANK YOU for not being a dumbass. Basically I agree with dgg. Logos and design like this should always be in vector. Just put yourself in your clients shoes. Would you rather have something that is infinity scalable, or a huge raster image?
[QUOTE=dgg;30988434]If you're serious about graphic design it's obvious that you use ILLUSTRATOR (or Flash) and Photoshop. Mainly Illustrator (or Flash).[/QUOTE] What's the main difference between Illustrator and Flash?
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