• Circumcision in America: Should it be the parents choice?
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[QUOTE=Face Melter;35843570]I'm circumcised and i honestly i'm happy to be because when i was in middleschool me and my friends used to compare dick sizes one of them had his foreskin and shit looked NASTY he peeled it back and the whole dick was like purple it made my dick hurt[/QUOTE] well then he had some sort of problem because i'm not circumsised and my dick doesn't look nasty, it's 100% brazilian meat. a true phallic beauty. however, the weird thing here is the fact that you and your friends used to compare dicks.
I've been circumcised since birth. I don't give a fuck; I'm not that insecure. That being said, some people do have insecurity issues and a sliced up dick isn't going to help that, so it should be the kid's choice. People who compare the look of a circumcised penis to an uncircumcised penis forget that either way a penis is a sweaty bit of meat with two wrinkly spheres suspended from the base. I don't think anybody in the world has a good looking cock, and if you don't agree with this argument then you are probably physically attracted to penis in some way. If this disturbs you, you need to get over your fear of homosexuality. tl;dr this entire debate is the very definition of homosexuality (men swapping cocks), but some people don't deal with castration anxiety well, so don't add on to their list of neuroses. [editline]6th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Face Melter;35843570]I'm circumcised and i honestly i'm happy to be because when i was in middleschool me and my friends used to compare dick sizes one of them had his foreskin and shit looked NASTY he peeled it back and the whole dick was like purple it made my dick hurt[/QUOTE] This is precisely the point that I'm making. This is exactly what everyone in this thread is doing right now, but they're just not showing their dicks.
I was circumcised as a child, doesn't bother me. Honestly it's up to the parents when you're a baby, you really can't object it. I don't know if it affects the child, but it does hurt at first, but really you never notice it until you're told. Hell I never knew I was circumcised till I was 13.
if you guys are worried about what your dicks look like you have problems beyond what your dick looks like.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35843343]Removing it is akin to removing the female clitoris, in that it makes achieving orgasm more difficult and less pleasurable.[/QUOTE] What did I just read. Do you even know your basic anatomy? Like holy fuck bro, what the hell. You can't seriously compare the bodily effects of male circumcision to female circumcision. The closest equivalent to female circumcision for a man is cutting off the glans. Yes, there's more to the clitoris than what is on the outside, but it amputates a woman's sexuality. A guy not having foreskin isn't like that at all. Yes, both are mutilations one way or the other and deserve all of our spite, but they are not fucking comparable conditions. What the fuck, this has to be the dumbest thing I have heard in a long fucking time.
Hey buddy I'm talking about religious rituals here. The removal of the foreskin as a religious ritual serves the same purpose as the removal of the clitoris (discouraging sex and masturbation). [editline]6th May 2012[/editline] Next time you call someone dumb make sure you actually read what they said.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35844462]Hey buddy I'm talking about religious rituals here. The removal of the foreskin as a religious ritual serves the same purpose as the removal of the clitoris (discouraging sex and masturbation).[/QUOTE] Is that why they invented circumcision? cause it didn't work. I'm circumcised, masturbate three times a day and have absolutely NO standards at all.
[QUOTE=prooboo;35844472]Is that why they invented circumcision? cause it didn't work. I'm circumcised, masturbate three times a day and have absolutely NO standards at all.[/QUOTE] It worked back when it was coupled with death by stoning and/or castration as additional penalties for masturbation.
My personal opinion on this matter is this. It's your kids dick, why is one of your first concerns when your they're just born to lop off a bit of their dick, kid just got the damn thing and you're immediatly down with slicing bits of them off for no reason. Thank fuck I live in the Uk and I was fortunate enough to not have my wang assaulted with sharp implements.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35844478]It worked back when it was coupled with death by stoning and/or castration as additional penalties for masturbation.[/QUOTE] Worth it
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35844503]My personal opinion on this matter is this. It's your kids dick, why is one of your first concerns when your they're just born to lop off a bit of their dick, kid just got the damn thing and you're immediatly down with slicing bits of them off for no reason. Thank fuck I live in the Uk and I was fortunate enough to not have my wang assaulted with sharp implements.[/QUOTE] by rabbis no less
Wait, is it Rabbi's that perform circumcisions in America?
If you're Jewish, yeah. Sometimes catholics let priests hack at their newborn boys' dicks. It does not have to be done by a medical professional. This is what we call "religious freedom" and it is overrated.
The fact it's not done by a surgeon is fucking full blown retard, I say that often but that is literally thee most fucking brutally mongo thing I've ever heard. The fact that it's an accepted thing is worrying.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35844535]If you're Jewish, yeah. [/QUOTE] eh lankist shut it. mohels are not necessarily rabbi's.
Remember, when someone is circumcised, they remove a small bit or all of the foreskin. Some people like me had a small bit of their foreskin cut, but some have it removed completely.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35844574]eh lankist shut it. mohels are not necessarily rabbi's.[/QUOTE] sure dude but there isn't much difference between a mongol and a rabbi when you're comparing them to a medical doctor. you do doctor-ish things, you get it. point is if you don't have an md maybe you shouldn't be doing surgery. especially on an infant.
Mutilation of your child's genitalia? No
I want to go back to my anology of a parents authority over your choice of doing something because there is an underlining point that needs to be addressed. You will find people who are circumcised aren't bothered as no distinction can be compared although the fact is apparent thats it's de'bauchery. Thus, we shouldn't allow on them terms (an insignificance to the person). Also we use individual right of a person to determine that it's wrong over people who are circumcised regardless that people don't really find it a depravation. So if there are people who believe it crosses the line of authority even though you aren't in the position to speak for it until later on, can we go further? People are born having not bothered that they exist despite under logic and certainty, that by coming into existance one does suffer depravity, pain and misery that could not have befallen if one had not come into existance. This assumes to me that with the same above, it is an insignificance to the person so we shouldn't allow it either. Can we apply the same individual right to people who don't wish to be born over people that are not bothered being born into existance? because it is wrong under the equation of knowing that that person is going to have rights and might have a problem with it. I believe it does. Note: This isn't supporting the claim that mutilation is justifiable but a conundrum in the universal decision making of a parents choice over you
Loss of a body part or function is not comparable to potential feelings of suicide.
I think it can be compared by how i explained. They can be both argued in such that a parents choice isn't your choice potentially in the future, also with grounds to say you are permitting unesessary harm to that individual whether he thinks circumcision/existance is a deprivation or not. Thus, acting out on these contrivances is bad and shouldn't be done. Someone who does actually commit suicide rather than potentially because he didn't wish to be born doesn't justify for the reason of having been born. Just like someone who wishes he was untouched doesn't justify for the reason of having had a circumcision.
What?
I think for americans, it's more that a lot of other children are circumcised, and since it's apparently a "tradition" there, is why people still do it - it must alter their common sense, "i'm mutilating my son's penis because everyone else is" on the other hand, i remember hearing a story where an uncircumcised 13 year old american boy was complaining to his parents about him being uncircumcised, because he was being teased in "gym class" because his penis was different. (i'd post a source, but it may not have been news/I can't find it if it is) in some cases, it may well be for the benefit of the child, almost becoming a social standard. however this can't be predicted, as well, you can't ask a newborn child whether he wants it or not.
If the kid is having health problems because of it, why not?
[QUOTE=MenteR;35843695] however, the weird thing here is the fact that you and your friends used to compare dicks.[/QUOTE] 13 years old, puberty, comparing dick sizes, armpit hair, deepness of our voices, muscles
[QUOTE=Pelican;35848305]I think for americans, it's more that a lot of other children are circumcised, and since it's apparently a "tradition" there, is why people still do it - it must alter their common sense, "i'm mutilating my son's penis because everyone else is" on the other hand, i remember hearing a story where an uncircumcised 13 year old american boy was complaining to his parents about him being uncircumcised, because he was being teased in "gym class" because his penis was different. (i'd post a source, but it may not have been news/I can't find it if it is) in some cases, it may well be for the benefit of the child, almost becoming a social standard. however this can't be predicted, as well, you can't ask a newborn child whether he wants it or not.[/QUOTE] and of course, social pressure is no reason to cut yourself [editline]6th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Seibitsu;35848724]If the kid is having health problems because of it, why not?[/QUOTE] still not a reason to do it at birth
What I'm surprised about is just the fact that it's so widespread in America. Seems so random. In Europe it's only children of religious people (jews, muslims etc.) that get circumcised right after birth.
[QUOTE=MenteR;35843695]well then he had some sort of problem because i'm not circumsised and my dick doesn't look nasty, it's 100% brazilian meat. a true phallic beauty. however, the weird thing here is the fact that you and your friends used to compare dicks.[/QUOTE] True. I think circumcised dicks would look weirded than regular dicks, it's kind of unnatural. Children (or adults, actually) should make the choice themselves when they're older. It's just like female circumcision, and there's a reason that's not allowed. and premium grade brazilian meat hi5
Let's throw some more fuel on the fire: Circumcision causes so much pain to the baby that the baby [i]blacks out[/i]. I was actually going to link to a video of a child being circumcised to point this out, but the YouTube thumbnail veered me away.
[QUOTE=Jookia;35853345]Let's throw some more fuel on the fire: Circumcision causes so much pain to the baby that the baby [i]blacks out[/i]. I was actually going to link to a video of a child being circumcised to point this out, but the YouTube thumbnail veered me away.[/QUOTE] I don't remember anything about my circumcision.
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