• The Anti-Vaccination Movement is a Danger to Everyone.
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[QUOTE=Comrade Lurker;36129051]Rude. Yes, how dare people actually care about their health and get regular checkups.[/QUOTE] Oh, but I'm not forcing anyone, and what is my opinion isn't trying to force you down your throat, and whatever information I picked up about this is just other people's opinions. And nothing is going to change that. :) Ciao. @Goblin So the basic of your post is :"Oh no, people are fighting at what they believe in and have different opinions, they must be crazy!" [editline]30th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=st0rmforce;35963755]Have fun with your inexperienced immune system.[/QUOTE] Have a nice trip. See you next fall.
[QUOTE=supertribute;36129489]Oh, but I'm not forcing anyone, and what is my opinion isn't trying to force you down your throat, and whatever information I picked up about this is just other people's opinions. And nothing is going to change that. :) Ciao.[/QUOTE] If it means stupid gits like you won't be clogging up waiting rooms in doctors offices, I don't think I would subject you to the horrible torture that is health and science. And your opinions are misinformation and I have no reason to trust them as you have not backed them up. By the way, drop the pretentious attitude. It's not going to help you.
Guys, be glad he never goes to a doctor. Imagine all the shit he would bring in to the hospital and all the people he could infect.
[QUOTE=supertribute;36129489] @Goblin So the basic of your post is :"Oh no, people are fighting at what they believe in and have different opinions, they must be crazy!" [/QUOTE] It's a nice concept to fight for what you believe in, but when it's assbackwards retarded and dangerous I don't really care. So yes, it is fucking crazy.
I really, really, really hope that supertribute's first language isn't english. Otherwise I think all of that raw meat isn't exactly helping him.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36129876]It's a nice concept to fight for what you believe in, but when it's assbackwards retarded and dangerous I don't really care. So yes, it is fucking crazy.[/QUOTE] Whatever works. [editline]31st May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;36129938]I really hope that supertribute's first language isn't english. Otherwise I think all of that raw meat isn't exactly helping him.[/QUOTE] I don't eat raw meat, at least, not often. I correctly fixed your repeats, they're like ads.
[QUOTE=supertribute;36140911]Whatever works. [editline]31st May 2012[/editline] I don't eat raw meat, at least, not often. I correctly fixed your repeats, they're like ads.[/QUOTE] Dude you were like arguing on and on earlier about how good raw meat was for you, you even gave a daily diet plan consisting of raw meat what the fuck do you want us to think?
[QUOTE=supertribute;36140911]Whatever works. [/QUOTE] Well doesn't science-based medicine work? I've been vaccinated against various things throughout my life and I've never caught anything worse than flu.
You properly ate more, or if you're into the gym, you're just lucky, depends on the food you ate. I can see that I don't want to argue/debate with you guys any more. I appreciated your views and opinions really. Know that I wasn't forcing my opinions, stating that I just think vaccination is somewhat wrong in some ways that people don't know the knowledge or don't want to the knowledge. inb you read it thinking I'm pussying it out. Thanks anyway. :)
[QUOTE=supertribute;36142103]You properly ate more, or if you're into the gym, you're just lucky, depends on the food you ate. I can see that I don't want to argue/debate with you guys any more. I appreciated your views and opinions really. Know that I wasn't forcing my opinions, stating that I just think vaccination is somewhat wrong in some ways that people don't know the knowledge or don't want to the knowledge. inb you read it thinking I'm pussying it out. Thanks anyway. :)[/QUOTE] Backpedal more please. We've read your posts, we know what you said, don't think for one second you can fool us man, that's just ridiculous.
[QUOTE=supertribute;36142103]You properly ate more, or if you're into the gym, you're just lucky, depends on the food you ate. I can see that I don't want to argue/debate with you guys any more. I appreciated your views and opinions really. Know that I wasn't forcing my opinions, stating that I just think vaccination is somewhat wrong in some ways that people don't know the knowledge or don't want to the knowledge. inb you read it thinking I'm pussying it out. Thanks anyway. :)[/QUOTE] This sounds like clutching at straws. Yes I do eat pretty healthily, but to give you an example, so did my friends who caught Measles in a mini-outbreak that flared up in my school when I was about 13. Afterwards it was shown that there was a pretty clear correlation between the kids that got sick and the parents who stopped their kids getting a Measles jab back in primary school. There was one kid I knew who came from a pretty poor family and didn't really eat well. He was always a bit scrawny and unhealthy looking and yes, he did catch a lot of colds and things like that. But when a load of kids went down with Measles he was fine, because his parents let him have the free jab a few years earlier. Eating well and looking after yourself can help with a lot of things, but if your body doesn't know how to handle something that you catch, you will get sick.
[QUOTE=supertribute;36142103]You properly ate more, or if you're into the gym, you're just lucky, depends on the food you ate.[/QUOTE] The body doesn't work in the way you think it does, boyo.
Of course the anti-vaccination movement is a danger to society. These fucking freaks spread diseases to their kids to give them immunities where a harmless, beneficial shot that takes a small amount of time to administer does the same. They can and it will eventually happen, that one of these assholes gets their or another's children killed. Its practically biological warfare. What if by some circumstance they give their kid small pox?
[QUOTE=Levithan;36074373]How do vaccines even cause cancer??[/QUOTE] The only medical arguments against vaccination I've seen are that thiomersal, a mercury based preservative in vaccines is dangerous (it isn't), or that vaccines will overwhelm children's immune systems, leaving them susceptible to other disease (also completely unfounded).
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36147170]The body doesn't work in the way you think it does, boyo.[/QUOTE] And that isn't a debate either, proving with that kind of post isn't debatable.
Yeah you're a brilliant fucking debater.
[QUOTE=supertribute;36076479]I do eat raw meat with butter, because there's no point trying to overcook it. I even knock down 2 to 3 raw eggs in the morning, 1 in the afternoon afternoon and two in the night, with a smoothie drink, and whatever I can mix in there. Just for the hell of it, for my diet at least if we start talking about health now: Before starting to eat: 2 spoons of plain white/or whatever cheese you got in the fridge with teaspoon of butter. 10 mins later have raw egg 10 mins later again, ditto. 5 mins, egg, ditto, egg, ditto, egg, at least 3-5 eggs whenever possible. 20 mins a small amount of cheese. 10 mins raw meat meal. Large cup with 3 tablespoons of butter can be eaten with any sauce. 35 mins later have 2 tablespoon cheese with 2 teaspoons. honey. At least in that time period, about 2 hrs. Breakfast over. This is just a plan from a health advisor. Jelly? And many more, I just can't list when you can't listen to reason, kiddo.[/QUOTE] Are you kidding me? This is just so poor omg "Raw Risks The biggest risk of raw eggs is Salmonella infections. Salmonella is a bacteria present in infected hens that can be passed through their eggs to consumers. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that in affected parts of the US, 1-in-50 average consumers could be exposed to a contaminated egg each year. In 2009, The Washington Post reported that each year, eggs infect about 142,000 Americans with Salmonella; about 30 die." "Cooked Benefits The opposite is true according to a study published in the Journal of Nutrition. [B]The study found protein from cooked eggs is absorbed by the body at a rate of 91 percent, while only 50 percent of raw egg protein is absorbed.[/B] According to researchers, the higher rate of protein absorption from cooked eggs results from the structural changes in the protein molecule induced by heating. Cooking eggs provide more easily absorbed protein without any of the risks associated with consuming raw eggs." If you're gonna eat so many damn eggs (which you really shouldn't), COOK them. [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/07/AR2009070702343.html?hpid=topnews[/url] [url]http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/salment_g.htm#What%20is%20the%20Risk[/url] [url]http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/128/10/1716[/url] What's the point of all the cheese too?
[QUOTE=supertribute;36153054]Last time I checked, I have a beard, and have grown into a man. Using boy as a insult is very lazy. Thanks. Bye. Sayonara. Ciao. Tlaa. Nabai.[/QUOTE] Ladies and gentlemen, professional debating right here. Obviously I should leave this thread as should all the other people here because clearly, we have no way of rebutting this effectively. Just kidding, you're a fucking terrible debater. Honestly if you can only default to these pretentious and idiotic sayings then you have no hope here. The fact that you don't even bother backing your sources up and you commit every logical fallacy in the book is a clear sign that you should shut up, leave the thread and go broaden your mind more assuming eating raw food doesn't kill you first. We don't give two flying fucks if you have a beard, obviously you're still a child judging by your posts. Before you commit to any bullshit like everyone here doesn't tolerate different opinions, we do, we just don't tolerate absolutely shitty opinions that don't border on logic. Instead they border on ignorance and lunacy and, coupled with a hint of being an absolute knob, they astound me as to how stupid you really are. With every post I read I feel my IQ is getting lower and lower. I don't know how you live with your lifestyle, but it's obviously doing some brain damage and you need to rethink something down the road. So if anything, we (the sensible people) should be the ones saying 'Goodbye' to you.
Don't worry guys, you can cure Salmonella with positive thinking.
[QUOTE=Comrade Lurker;36154805]Ladies and gentlemen, professional debating right here. Obviously I should leave this thread as should all the other people here because clearly, we have no way of rebutting this effectively. Just kidding, you're a fucking terrible debater. Honestly if you can only default to these pretentious and idiotic sayings then you have no hope here. The fact that you don't even bother backing your sources up and you commit every logical fallacy in the book is a clear sign that you should shut up, leave the thread and go broaden your mind more assuming eating raw food doesn't kill you first. We don't give two flying fucks if you have a beard, obviously you're still a child judging by your posts. Before you commit to any bullshit like everyone here doesn't tolerate different opinions, we do, we just don't tolerate absolutely shitty opinions that don't border on logic. Instead they border on ignorance and lunacy and, coupled with a hint of being an absolute knob, they astound me as to how stupid you really are. With every post I read I feel my IQ is getting lower and lower. I don't know how you live with your lifestyle, but it's obviously doing some brain damage and you need to rethink something down the road. So if anything, we (the sensible people) should be the ones saying 'Goodbye' to you.[/QUOTE] So you only responded to a post that isn't debated at all.
[QUOTE=supertribute;36174992]So you only responded to a post that isn't debated at all.[/QUOTE] I thought you were leaving?
No not leaving, moving on.
[QUOTE=supertribute;36175297]No not leaving, moving on.[/QUOTE] That's the exact same thing. The skinny of it is, any possible downsides of vaccinations are incredibly rare and and the benefits outweigh any of the tiny risks.
You didn't get the reference. But yeah, do I have to get my father down here to explain this all? The title is abit hypocritical though, while having a discussion that is just about hating the anti and just making it out that they are bad just because they have anti in it, of course they had the needles and vaccination, so and so. And were not all about saying how bad it is in this thread, rather then sharing thoughts on if it's right. I don't see much of that. Neutral please. Too boring to talk about the positive for Vaccinations.
[QUOTE=supertribute;36181954]You didn't get the reference. But yeah, do I have to get my father down here to explain this all? The title is abit hypocritical though, while having a discussion that is just about hating the anti and just making it out that they are bad just because they have anti in it, of course they had the needles and vaccination, so and so. And were not all about saying how bad it is in this thread, rather then sharing thoughts on if it's right. I don't see much of that. Neutral please. Too boring to talk about the positive for Vaccinations.[/QUOTE] So what is the point you are making exactly?
[QUOTE=supertribute;36181954]You didn't get the reference. But yeah, do I have to get my father down here to explain this all? The title is abit hypocritical though, while having a discussion that is just about hating the anti and just making it out that they are bad just because they have anti in it, of course they had the needles and vaccination, so and so. And were not all about saying how bad it is in this thread, rather then sharing thoughts on if it's right. I don't see much of that. Neutral please. Too boring to talk about the positive for Vaccinations.[/QUOTE] Please do get your dad down here and explain how ignorant we all are for not seeing how bad vaccines are for society.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;36182079]So what is the point you are making exactly?[/QUOTE] Well, if we disagree to disagree, and not just respect opinions. Which I say vaccination is bad, is just my opinion.
[QUOTE=supertribute;36181954]You didn't get the reference. But yeah, do I have to get my father down here to explain this all? The title is abit hypocritical though, while having a discussion that is just about hating the anti and just making it out that they are bad just because they have anti in it, of course they had the needles and vaccination, so and so. And were not all about saying how bad it is in this thread, rather then sharing thoughts on if it's right. I don't see much of that. Neutral please. Too boring to talk about the positive for Vaccinations.[/QUOTE] Your dad? How old are you exactly?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;36189803]Your dad? How old are you exactly?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=supertribute;36153054]Last time I checked, I have a beard, and have grown into a man. Using boy as a insult is very lazy.[/quote] He edited the original post, but I still have it in my quote post above. So yeah, apparently he's a man but he has to get his father on here to lecture some internet strangers. That'll show us! [QUOTE=supertribute;36189277]Well, if we disagree to disagree, and not just respect opinions. Which I say vaccination is bad, is just my opinion.[/QUOTE] Stop trying to switch the whole thing around by making yourself to be the victim, I'm pretty sure the last guy that tried that got his arse kicked so I wouldn't recommend it. Vaccinations are bad, which is your opinion, but you fail to recognise the scientific backings that pretty much demolish any anti-vaccination argument. With this you are potentially being a hazard to society by allowing easily preventable diseases to spread. No matter how much you can attempt to strengthen your body through other means, nothing will be able to beat getting an injection. Simple as that. We'd respect your opinion more if you were actually being smart and mature about it. I'll admit my last post wasn't as much debating as it was attacking but seriously, you're not doing yourself any favours by running around in circles and not backing yourself up.
You really are taking it out of context. And my opinion is my opinion. Not yours. (yes, it would seem I have to cruel to be kind) I'm not telling you to change your opinion on what I think is right but you think it's wrong, that's fine, nor I don't want to change yours. Of course this is a discussion, not a corrupted political party, that shoves opinions down your throat because you disagreed, because of the information about vaccination being bad. Which I agree with and you don't. That's how it's a debate, and you try to bring into a personal level IRL, oh shit i'm exposed!. I get you have different views, let's continue so I don't have to continue be a badass and internet tough guy. There has to be backup of evidence of vaccination causing problems that proves it's good. In my opinion, I don't go to the doctors, haven't been any for 6-7 years, only those who have other medical alternates. Or natural. I don't care to have my dad or anyone else involved, I was just mentioning my dad being in this field of experience, I was stating if I discussed with this dad(oh yes, you know you're just gonna say white knight and personal bullshit) since he knows a lot of health and works in the food business. It doesn't matter if you don't take vaccination or not, you properly get sick from something else anyway. Well, okay, what do you think? Without sounding like a prick in response.
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