• Should we legalize Organ donation for inmates on death row?
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Organ donation as a method of death penalty? I am for it, in fact i have started a petition for it [url=https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/allow-organ-donation-inmates-death-row-and-make-it-form-death-penalty-criminals/ySJpChDs]here.[/url] [release]We should allow legal organ donation by inmates on death row; and make it a form of death penalty for criminals who agree to this method and are medically able to donate organs. Our current death penalty does not allow inmates on death row to donate organs. I believe that organ donation should be a form of death penalty. Even individuals who are against the death penalty should realize that this would be a better alternative to our current methods. Benefits to death by organ donation include: 1. [B]Humane[/B]- With this method the individual would be put under anesthesia prior to the operation. The individual would feel no pain in their passing. 2. [B]Organs save lives[/B]- The organs donated could be used to save lives. There are many people on transplant lists who may never find a donor. A single organ donor can save eight lives.* 3. [B]Save tax Dollars[/B]- Insurance companies and the organ recipient pay for organ donations, this could save tax payers money that is currently used on expensive death penalty methods. Organ donation as a method of execution would be more humane and cost effective than our current methods. We have the opportunity to save innocent lives. *[url]http://www.organdonor.gov/why.asp[/url][/release] If you are against it please discus your reasoning.
The only problem I could see are the conditions of the organs after they are killed, because I do not know how usable the organs are after a lethal injection of whatever they use to kill the prisoners.
[QUOTE=Snorlax;32643995]The only problem I could see are the conditions of the organs after they are killed, because I do not know how usable the organs are after a lethal injection of whatever they use to kill the prisoners.[/QUOTE] In this method the inmate would be put to sleep with standard surgical anesthesia, then the organs would be removed. Basically they would die in their sleep without damaging the organs
Don't they use a neurotoxin so they stop feeling pain almost right away? [editline]5th October 2011[/editline] Nevermind, what stick suggested makes infinitely more sense
Guess they wouldn't really care after they are dead. And they do try some.. products on the dead deathrow inmates. So I've heard anyway.
Most inmates use harder drugs. Not such a good idea.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;32644067]Most inmates use harder drugs. Not such a good idea.[/QUOTE] donation would have to be approved by a doctor, like regular organ donation, to make sure donated organs are healthy
Who's going to pay those doctors?
[QUOTE=TehWhale;32644112]Who's going to pay those doctors?[/QUOTE] doctors are already paid by the company they work for :downs:
[QUOTE=TehWhale;32644112]Who's going to pay those doctors?[/QUOTE] Who's gonna pay to have organs fabricated with technology we don't have yet? It's not a matter of money, it's a matter of saving lives.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;32644067]Most inmates use harder drugs. Not such a good idea.[/QUOTE] Source?
[QUOTE=GodKing;32644163]Source?[/QUOTE][url]http://www.addictiontreatmentmagazine.com/addiction-news/addiction-crime/inmates-and-substance-abuse/[/url]
[QUOTE=TehWhale;32644112]Who's going to pay those doctors?[/QUOTE] like with modern donation, all medical cost is covered by the receiver and their insurance
[QUOTE=GodKing;32644163]Source?[/QUOTE] You wouldn't need a source if you had browsed through enough of death row inmates' reports to see how many of them were down for a robbery-murder to score some crack.
I don't like the death penalty but if we are going to do it might as well put those organs to good use. My hope is that I will become an organ donor and when I die someone wants a brain transplant.
I am a bit unclear on this. Does the person on death row have to consent to this or not? Yes, the word "donation" is in there, but that doesn't make it any more clear because there have been similar arguments using the word donation that do not require consent. And with no clarification yet to [QUOTE=Gekkosan;32644058]Guess they wouldn't really care after they are dead.[/QUOTE] it seems to confirm that the death row person wouldn't have to consent. But I don't know this for sure. Can that be clarified and be put in the OP? There are two possible questions here: should people on the execution table be forced to be organ donors, and should be able to become organ donors? I would assume it would be the second, but without clarification I can't be sure.
[QUOTE=Pepin;32644853]I am a bit unclear on this. Does the person on death row have to consent to this or not? Yes, the word "donation" is in there, but that doesn't make it any more clear because there have been similar arguments using the word donation that do not require consent. And with no clarification yet to It seems to confirm that the death row person wouldn't have to consent. But I don't know this for sure. Can that be clarified and be put in the OP, because they are two very different questions with two very different answers.[/QUOTE] Yes they would have to give consent, and if they give consent a doctor would decide if they are medically able to donate. Without consent fro the inmate, and approval by a doctor it could not take place updated more clear OP
In which case, it should of course be legal for people who are going to be put down to donate their organs. There isn't any logical reason to destroy perfectly good organs that they would be willing to give up to save lives. I think part of the reasoning against it could be that a bad person needs to be destroyed. Yet, what determines the actions of a person is not their body, rather the mind, and that is really the only entity that needs to be taken out. I can offer many analogies for this if needed. It's not like I support the death penalty, but as long as it is in place in certain areas, it would make sense to save some lives through allowing this.
If you sign the petition let me know so I can add you to the FP signature list in the general discussion thread
Under the condition that the inmate's tasty organs are in good, healthy conditions, then yes.
Sure, it's not like they're going to need them.
The arguments for death penalty via organ donation are completely sound and true, the problem is that people who oppose the death penalty oppose it simply for the fact of taking a human's life away. There is always the chance that the person was innocent.
Criminals can already ask for their bodies to be donated to science if they so desire. It just takes a lawyer. I'd see little reason for them to not be allowed to do so if they have proper health.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;32646364]Criminals can already ask for their bodies to be donated to science if they so desire. It just takes a lawyer.[/QUOTE] But actual living organ donation to save lives is not curently allowed
would those that agree please sign the petition. It does not go public till it has 150 signatures from direct linking
[QUOTE=imptastick;32644190]like with modern donation, all medical cost is covered by the receiver and their insurance[/QUOTE] No, just America
[QUOTE=imptastick;32644107]donation would have to be approved by a doctor, like regular organ donation, to make sure donated organs are healthy[/QUOTE] Everyone can donate something. Whether it's their kidneys, their liver, their eyes, their skin. I don't think there is a single person in the world that didn't have a part of their body that could be donated.
I, not being American, find it insanely stupid that you'd let organs go to waste just because they're sentenced to death. Why would you even create a law like that?
[QUOTE=SaWAH;32650261]I, not being American, find it insanely stupid that you'd let organs go to waste just because they're sentenced to death. Why would you even create a law like that?[/QUOTE] I always thought it was because the methods of execution never really allowed for organ donation, not that it was explicitly restricted by law.
[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;32651428]I always thought it was because the methods of execution never really allowed for organ donation, not that it was explicitly restricted by law.[/QUOTE] Right now it is both, that is why I propose that rather than use our current method of execution, we switch to putting the inmate under anesthesia and allowing them to die on the table. Basically they would go to sleep and blood flow to the brain would stop once the heart is removed. It would be painless, and save innocent lives.
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