• Teaching homosexuality in school
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[url]http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=5645[/url] there's multiple sources of this, but they basically stipulate teaching young children about homosexuality in California. I'm alright with gays, I have no beef against gay marriage or anything like that, but I strongly disagree with something so subjective and opinion-based being taught to children. School is supposed to teach you factual information only, not to advocate or damn sexuality. CA has a very tight budget, and they're already axing lots of educational programs, and instead they replace them with this. It's like preaching a religion in school; it just doesn't belong. What the hell happened to innocence?
I agree. There is no place in school for teaching about sexual preference. Sexual preference is a decision much like religion for people to make.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;32396489]I agree. There is no place in school for teaching about sexual preference. Sexual preference is a decision much like religion for people to make.[/QUOTE] It's not a decision.
It should be up to the parents to teach their children or they can learn themselves (I think that's the best way, tbh).
[QUOTE=Amplar;32396477][url]http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=5645[/url] there's multiple sources of this, but they basically stipulate teaching young children about homosexuality in California. I'm alright with gays, I have no beef against gay marriage or anything like that, but I strongly disagree with something so subjective and opinion-based being taught to children. School is supposed to teach you factual information only, not to advocate or damn sexuality. CA has a very tight budget, and they're already axing lots of educational programs, and instead they replace them with this. It's like preaching a religion in school; it just doesn't belong. [B]What the hell happened to innocence?[/B][/QUOTE] Implying teaching children about different kinds of sex is wrong. I think it's a good idea to teach kids about homosexuality so they won't get a fucked up view on it from their priest or a Fox News reporter. [editline]20th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=CrispexOps;32396489]I agree. There is no place in school for teaching about sexual preference. Sexual preference is a decision much like religion for people to make.[/QUOTE] If you made a conscious choice to be straight you're not straight.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;32396508]It's not a decision.[/QUOTE] sometimes it is, some people choose to be what they're not just to be accepted.
[QUOTE=Amplar;32396514]It should be up to the parents to teach their children or they can learn themselves (I think that's the best way, tbh).[/QUOTE] Why?
[QUOTE=sp00ks;32396519]Implying teaching children about different kinds of sex is wrong. I think it's a good idea to teach kids about homosexuality so they won't get a fucked up view on it from their priest or a Fox News reporter. [editline]20th September 2011[/editline] If you made a conscious choice to be straight you're not straight.[/QUOTE] But remember, the schools can be just as biased.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;32396489]I agree. There is no place in school for teaching about sexual preference. Sexual preference is a decision much like religion for people to make.[/QUOTE] Sexual preference is about as much as a decision as the race you're born as.
You don't need to teach people about homosexuality, that makes it stand out like it's something special and not just a sexual preference. They shouldn't say anything other than "it's when a human likes same-gendered humans" and leave it at that. [editline]wien[/editline] It's like racism, the best way to avoid homophobic tendencies is to not talk about it like it's a special thing.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;32396532]Why?[/QUOTE] I just don't believe it's something that belongs in an educational system that (was) designed to prepare you for the future. When I grew up (and where), being gay wasn't normal and was never spoken of, and I've grown up to be tolerant and accepting, because I learned throughout life what to believe.
[quote]It's not a decision.[/quote] Yes it is. No baby is born saying, "I like other men!" or "I like other women!" Sorry, everything you do in your life is a decision. I don't buy this "born this way" bullshit. What happened, was homosexuality used to be taboo, not accepted anywhere. Then, gay people saw this, wanted to change it, so started to say, "Oh, we were born this way!" to make it more widely accepted. It's like me saying I was born with an attraction to a particular hair color. It's a preference. I know a few gay people who say it is indeed a choice they made.
[QUOTE=Amplar;32396530]sometimes it is, some people choose to be what they're not just to be accepted.[/QUOTE] no, sexuality isn't a choice. [editline]20th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=CrispexOps;32396608]Yes it is. No baby is born saying, "I like other men!" or "I like other women!" Sorry, everything you do in your life is a decision. I don't buy this "born this way" bullshit.[/QUOTE] genetics determine sexuality, not free will.
Just let gay people marry and give them the same rights as straight people, and that's all. Nobody needs a whole lesson to explain that gay people are just like everybody else, just teach children that all people are equal and deserve equal rights, no matter who they like, what their race is and what their sex is. [editline]20th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Amplar;32396530]sometimes it is, some people choose to be what they're not just to be accepted.[/QUOTE] Sexuality is not a choice. If it was, I would be asexual rather than heterosexual.
[b]Remember to keep on topic, this isn't about "is gay a choice". Save that for another thread.[/b]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation[/url] Read. There is no sufficient proof to suggest that it is or is not genetics. It's a choice. Pedophiles use the same fucking excuse. "I was born this way!"
why would anyone choose to be have less rights or be less liked by the public?
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;32396715][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation[/url] Read. There is no sufficient proof to suggest that it is or is not genetics. It's a choice. Pedophiles use the same fucking excuse. "I was born this way!"[/QUOTE] no wonder you're so retarded, you put pedophiles on the same level as homosexuals.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;32396691]Just let gay people marry and give them the same rights as straight people, and that's all. Nobody needs a whole lesson to explain that gay people are just like everybody else, just teach children that all people are equal and deserve equal rights, no matter who they like, what their race is and what their sex is. [editline]20th September 2011[/editline] Sexuality is not a choice. If it was, I would be asexual rather than heterosexual.[/QUOTE] This. eventually children will learn of gay people on their own and choose to accept or vilify them. It's an ongoing problem with social media producing cliques and social "norms" for sensitive subjects. it's a double edged sword, it can be good, and it can be very, very bad.
Homosexuality should be mentioned in sex ed, history and biology, it's not like it deserves it's own class
I always figured it was both. Like how some people are turned on by feet, some people are turned on by their own gender, I mean, that's not genetic. And then there are the ones, who because of some unusual hormone levels in their brain during early growth in the womb, are turned on by their own gender.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;32396608]Yes it is. No baby is born saying, "I like other men!" or "I like other women!" Sorry, everything you do in your life is a decision. I don't buy this "born this way" bullshit. What happened, was homosexuality used to be taboo, not accepted anywhere. Then, gay people saw this, wanted to change it, so started to say, "Oh, we were born this way!" to make it more widely accepted. It's like me saying I was born with an attraction to a particular hair color. It's a preference. I know a few gay people who say it is indeed a choice they made.[/QUOTE] Why are you so against to men having consensual sex?
The people saying that homosexuality is [B]only[/B] a choice or in genetics are wrong. I can't remember it exactly, it's something to do with not getting a burst of a certain hormone during puberty.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;32396715][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation[/url] Read. There is no sufficient proof to suggest that it is or is not genetics. It's a choice. Pedophiles use the same fucking excuse. "I was born this way!"[/QUOTE] Did you chose to be sexually attracted to women? Could you chose to be sexually attracted to men?
[QUOTE=sp00ks;32396834]Did you chose to be sexually attracted to women? Could you chose to be sexually attracted to men?[/QUOTE] I think that environmental factors can have an impact on peoples sexuality, subconsciously.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;32396834]Did you chose to be sexually attracted to women? Could you chose to be sexually attracted to men?[/QUOTE] Well, Yes.
By fifth grade, all the kids call everything they dislike "gay" anyway. It's not like they haven't heard it.
[QUOTE=FPChris;32396877]Well, Yes.[/QUOTE] Congratulations, you're bisexual.
It's not so bad to say "sometimes boys like boys and sometimes girls like girls", is it?
[QUOTE=SomTervo;32396763]Homosexuality should be mentioned in sex ed, history and biology, it's not like it deserves it's own class[/QUOTE] I forgot to mention that, biology I'm not sure of, but history definitely. The greeks and romans would dip their dongs in everyone and everything. Sex ed is a sensitive class, I'm not sure if it belongs. But, it would help those who are gay (in the class) feel less vilified, as long as they still remain anonymous. [editline]20th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=fenwick;32396938]It's not so bad to say "sometimes boys like boys and sometimes girls like girls", is it?[/QUOTE] not at all, but having a whole class devoted to it is just silly.
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