• Music? Is this generation making shit music, or are people not looking hard enough?
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I'm 14 and I totally agree with this question. I hate most music nowadays, personally I listen to things like metal, grunge and punk, and because I do, all of my friends hate me for it. I even get a decent argument in with them, they say the music I like is is crap, its just guitar and screaming. But I say that the music they like is just basic untalented bullshit. Personally, I think that olden music that I like is pretty talented and takes some time to be able to play like that. But now, its just a generic beat with someone talking about the same thing on top of it. Love, sex or money. But, there is some good music out there but its getting blocked by teenage girls buying shit music because of the singers "Sex Appeal" or whatever is "Cool" now. I go to concerts and I see some good new bands trying to get popular, I support them. But another thing is I think that people who like music genres like I do are becoming a musical stereotype. I just hope that this music will go back up to how it used to be, popular.
[QUOTE=AK'z;34111786]The days of good progressive rock are long gone.[/QUOTE] AK'z what are you doing you're meant to be good at finding good new music. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5eN6MK2VVA]There are[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebKy8TmG9Ys]dozens of[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EonKxEObq_k]talented, awe inspiring[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9xNu3iKIwk]prog bands[/url]. You have to search harder, man.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;34114159]AK'z what are you doing you're meant to be good at finding good new music. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5eN6MK2VVA]There are[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebKy8TmG9Ys]dozens of[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EonKxEObq_k]talented, awe inspiring[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9xNu3iKIwk]prog bands[/url]. You have to search harder, man.[/QUOTE] You took that quote out of context. I was talking about the era.
Music is a matter of personal taste. In the 2000s, there were people that loved the 90s and before, but not the 2000s. In the 90s, there were people that loved the 80s and before, but not the 90s. It's the same for every decade and it's probably not going to go away. It's not like music suddenly started being terrible and shitty in 2011 or 2010, because even if you haven't heard a new song you like in a while, someone else probably has.
[QUOTE=Red Skull;34114145]Personally, I think that olden music that I like is pretty talented and takes some time to be able to play like that. But now, its just a generic beat with someone talking about the same thing on top of it.[/QUOTE] Since when is music a talent contest?
It's always good to keep up with new things. Not necessarily artists you already know either. If I stopped listening to new music, I'd be sad about the times. Luckily that isn't the case.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34114636]Since when is music a talent contest?[/QUOTE] I just think that older music is more talented that new music. My opinion.
[QUOTE=Red Skull;34114747]I just think that older music is more talented that new music. My opinion.[/QUOTE] A good example of an opinion being 100% wrong.
[QUOTE=Red Skull;34114747]I just think that older music is more talented that new music. My opinion.[/QUOTE] And your definitions of old and new music are? You don't know what you're talking about.
I think the difference between popular music and that obscure band nobody but you has heard of is how memorable they are. Look at most really popular songs today and you'll find that they all have something incredibly memorable about them. For example, they may have repeating words (Like Justin Bieber with "Baby", where he constantly repeats the title throughout the song.), or a memorable part of the song, or the song may just be so generic and yet catchy that it will stick in peoples heads (the reason you can probably say all the lyrics to a nursery rhyme you heard 10 or more years ago, but an 'indie' song you heard 10 times on repeat yesterday you probably can't recall all the lyrics to, unless they were very basic - you can probably remember the chorus, but not the verses). You pick any song and it'll most likely have something in which you can instantly recognise the song if you only heard that part, because thats how our memory, and therefore how popular a song is, works.
Facepunch talking about music is just..hilarious.
There is no such thing as bad music, Just different tastes.
[QUOTE=AK'z;34111786]Depends how you look at it. The days of good jazz fusion and progressive rock are long gone. [/QUOTE] I'll give you that to an extent. There are some good groups in each genre if you look in the right places. Mahavishnu was pretty much the peak of fusion though.
Just look deeper. Popular music has been shit since the '80s. There was a little point there in the '90s when it got good, due in part to the popularity of punk at the time, but before and since, its been bad. Find the lower budget stuff. Find the stuff you don't hear on the radio. That's where you'll find the kind or artistic heart and soul in the music that makes it inherently good (for the most part). The great thing is that this can exist across all genres, so no matter what you like, you can find the low budget, starving artist type of soul that feeds into the quality of the music.
[QUOTE=BloodFox1222;34115291]There is no such thing as bad music, Just different tastes.[/QUOTE] Justin Bieber, most rap music. You were saying?
[QUOTE=Ryder1337;34115309]I'll give you that to an extent. There are some good groups in each genre if you look in the right places. Mahavishnu was pretty much the peak of fusion though.[/QUOTE] Why do you never visit the music section? We need more who are interested in the discovery and experience. One day you'll find someone here drop in, moan a bit, then leave. That's not the music section I want to know. :-)
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;34115451]Justin Bieber, most rap music. You were saying?[/QUOTE] Some people like it, Old music is still around and you can listen to that.
[QUOTE=BloodFox1222;34115291]There is no such thing as bad music, Just different tastes.[/QUOTE] Subjectively yes, but most pop fans usually listen to it for the reason that it's popular or the artist is attractive or has a distinct image. For example, look at Justin Bieber. Many of his fans adore him mainly because of his image as a innocent teenage boy every girl wants and usually not for the message conveyed in the music nor the technical achievement or gratification of his sound. Similar to many artist. Taylor Swift is seen as a beautiful teenage good ol' fashioned American girl who everyone wants to be friend with and can relate to. To be honest it's hard to find a [i]true[/i] fan of any pop artist in an objective way and not just because of their image, popularity, and simplicity. It's all about image in popular music.
[QUOTE=Chezburger;34113232]I can't see how sounds, generated by computers can create "good music". Auto-tune makes this even worse.[/QUOTE] Oh, you're one of those idiots that think that writing Electronic music is automatically talentless and bad music. I'll agree with the auto-tune, but otherwise you're retarded. Anyway, this was in in the 2000's, I believe: [video=youtube;P5-2-jD-42Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5-2-jD-42Q[/video] Good rap.
a lot of music has gone too commercial imo
Mostly the mainstream music is shit
Personal taste.
Honestly, we're at the best age for popular and underground music. Stuff in the past is amazing and influential, but you can't live there.
Absolutely not, the 60s, 70s, and 80s all had great music, but they had their share of chart-topping shitstains as well check this song out. It was at the top of the charts for a whole month in 1969 and it's just as inane and stupid as a lot of songs today [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar,_Sugar[/url] [video=youtube;h9nE2spOw_o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9nE2spOw_o[/video] Seriously, that was like Lady GaGa or something back then.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;34115451]Justin Bieber, most rap music. You were saying?[/QUOTE] He was saying there's no such thing as bad music, just different tastes! Reading before you click the reply button is good practice! Good completely unrelated subject matter post though, bro!
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;34115451]most rap music. [/QUOTE] Sorry, but this is just a terrible generalisation.
pfff music now is way better than before. now with the internet no stupid music companies can step in and fuck with the music so you can get it raw. and the power of indie labels makes sure that they stay raw.
[QUOTE=Doomish;34116315]He was saying there's no such thing as bad music, just different tastes! Reading before you click the reply button is good practice! Good completely unrelated subject matter post though, bro![/QUOTE] Take your own advice, he said it's just tastes I gave two examples of unquestionably bad music.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;34116665]I gave two examples of unquestionably bad music.[/QUOTE] Yeah.. no.
The real question is why I've never seen people here discuss music: [url]http://www.facepunch.com/forums/262[/url] Subjective or not, we're here to help each others interests.
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