• Firearms XV - CCing Ruger 1911s in leather holsters just to trigger Cyke
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Did anybody else jump on the <$200 savage axis rifle train?
I've had one for a while, not crazy about it. I guess it's OK.
The Savage 10 I bought in October ended up being $450 after the rebate. I'm quite happy with it. Tossed a Vortex scope, Surefire muzzle brake and Harris bipod on it to round it out. Just need to get that magwell conversion kit now...
I just managed to pick up 2 10-round mags, 4 20-round mags (all pinned to 5 of course, fuck this country), a mag pouch, and a holster for my Skorpion for just over $100 after shipping. Now to wait for the horse cops to approve the transfer of the damn gun so I can go shoot the fucking thing. It's been almost 3 weeks now...
Opinions on the M70 Tok for $200 from Classic Firearms? I'm looking to pick up something cheap and fun to play around with on the weekend when we go to my buddy's range. I know some people like these guns and some people hate them so I'm just curious what FP thinks. Other considerations right now are a P64 (got the idea from that debate here a few weeks ago) or maybe a Makarov if I see one for a good price. Yes, I know none of these are terribly practical guns for carry/defense but that's not really why I'm buying one.
[QUOTE=papkee;53050283]Opinions on the M70 Tok for $200 from Classic Firearms? I'm looking to pick up something cheap and fun to play around with on the weekend when we go to my buddy's range. I know some people like these guns and some people hate them so I'm just curious what FP thinks. Other considerations right now are a P64 (got the idea from that debate here a few weeks ago) or maybe a Makarov if I see one for a good price. Yes, I know none of these are terribly practical guns for carry/defense but that's not really why I'm buying one.[/QUOTE] If you can grab one of the Zastava Tok's in 9mm, do it. They're fun guns, albeit horrible ergonomics. Only complaint with mine is that it's in 7.62x25. Oddball round to try and find in a local store.
I have an Izhevsk Tokarev. Anyone who tells you they're inaccurate doesn't know how to shoot. I can shoot my Tokarev just as well as I can my Sig P226. Hell, the short reset on the Tokarev's trigger is why I bought the SRT kit for my Sig in the first place.
Well I finally got off my lazy ass to shoot the AR I built and it didn't blow up in my face!
[QUOTE=Ridge;53047532]Just don't use Blazer and you'll be fine.[/QUOTE] is Blazer that different from CCI Standard that we buy here? It's recognized as the golden standard for cheap training ammo, or was, until the price doubled thanks to US panic buying.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;53050581]is Blazer that different from CCI Standard that we buy here? It's recognized as the golden standard for cheap training ammo, or was, until the price doubled thanks to US panic buying.[/QUOTE] I've bought Blazer in .22 and 9mm and had no issues with either. I find Winchester makes the shittiest, dirtiest, most unreliable ammo.
Winchester is the filthiest ammo available. Blazer is the only ammo where I had like 5 rounds fail to fire out of a single box. Nothing wrong with the gun, the primers just didn't go off.
Yeah I've had a few Blazer 45 rounds fail to go off too
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53050630]Winchester is the filthiest ammo available. Blazer is the only ammo where I had like 5 rounds fail to fire out of a single box. Nothing wrong with the gun, the primers just didn't go off.[/QUOTE] I've never had any issue with the Blazer stuff I've bought. Now you want to talk shitty ammo, Chinese surplus 7.62x54R is the shittiest, most failure-prone centrefire ammo I've ever had the misfortune of owning. I cannot go to the range without at least one case splitting after being shot in some way, and then there was the one round that was overloaded and got stuck in my SVT's chamber. To its credit it goes bang pretty much every time, which is more than I can say about the Czech surplus I used to have, but the repeated case failures make me concerned. If it were any other nationality of gun but Russian that I was shooting this ammo out of I'd definitely reconsider it.
Never had any issue with either Blazer or Winchester, though I've only shot 9mm Blazer. Winchester, I've shot a fair bit of 9mm 115gr FMJs (even qualified for my concealed carry class with the stuff), as well as .308 147gr FMJs. Oh, and there was some 30-06 180gr soft points from like 10 years ago. No failures on that. No problems reloading either brand of brass either, though I've only done like 50 of the 9mm using Winchester and 50 of the Blazer. Maybe 10-20 or so of the Winchester rifle cartridges.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53050630]Winchester is the filthiest ammo available. Blazer is the only ammo where I had like 5 rounds fail to fire out of a single box. Nothing wrong with the gun, the primers just didn't go off.[/QUOTE] Winchester's steel cased ammo is so dirty, loading your mags leaves your hands black. None of the other steel cased ammo I have used does this.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;53050662]I've never had any issue with the Blazer stuff I've bought. Now you want to talk shitty ammo, Chinese surplus 7.62x54R is the shittiest, most failure-prone centrefire ammo I've ever had the misfortune of owning. I cannot go to the range without at least one case splitting after being shot in some way, and then there was the one round that was overloaded and got stuck in my SVT's chamber. To its credit it goes bang pretty much every time, which is more than I can say about the Czech surplus I used to have, but the repeated case failures make me concerned. If it were any other nationality of gun but Russian that I was shooting this ammo out of I'd definitely reconsider it.[/QUOTE] My SVT always had issues with hot ammo. The Bulgarian 54r surplus thats pretty common in the US gets stuck in my SVT all the time. You have to apply a lot of boot-to-bolt to get the rounds out.
Heads up on some stupidly rare parts on Ebay. [URL="https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=spectresupply2&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.XColt"]https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=spectresupply2&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.XColt[/URL] You can finally make that Colt & Wesson revolver that was always meant to be.
[QUOTE=Ridge;53049824]You'll need a trigger kit as well, as that thing probably has the original automatic fire trigger and selector. As for correct looking lowers, the only shop that I know of that made them was Nodak Spud, who's lowers run $160 (I remember there being a long lead time to get them, though. Don't know if that's still the case). [url]http://www.nodakspud.com/AR%20Lowers.htm[/url] Nobody really cares if you use the "correct" lower, though. Most folks don't even know what they look like.[/QUOTE] I saw those, but most of them, or the ones I was looking at anyway, are either completely out of stock or would take the better part of a year to even get your hands on. I might just chance it on an "incorrect" lower. Why is it even the Colt M16A1 original lowers don't seem "correct"?
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53050859]My SVT always had issues with hot ammo. The Bulgarian 54r surplus thats pretty common in the US gets stuck in my SVT all the time. You have to apply a lot of boot-to-bolt to get the rounds out.[/QUOTE] Oh no this was so hot it sheared the rim off of the round with the extractor, popped the primer, and got it jammed so hard into the chamber I had to have the person I was shooting with hold the bolt open so I could hammer the casing out.
Made up 39 rounds of 6.5CM. Managed to mangle one of the cases with the crimper/seating die though. 140gr Barnes Match Burner, 39gr of AR2209, Hornady cases, CCI primers. [editline]14th January 2018[/editline] Made them as long as I could while fitting in the magazine.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53050630]Winchester is the filthiest ammo available. Blazer is the only ammo where I had like 5 rounds fail to fire out of a single box. Nothing wrong with the gun, the primers just didn't go off.[/QUOTE] Blazer is fucking awful and should be banned. I had 12 stovepipes in my freshly cleaned M9 IN A ROW from brand new Blazer aluminum ammo. I've never, EVER had anything like that happen before. I've used some bottom of the barrel steel-cased Tula rounds that didn't jam up that badly. I don't even understand how it can be so fucking TERRIBLE and yet be made by CCI, the gold standard of rimfire ammo (arguably). As for dirtiness, Tula and Silver Bear are probably the worst two. I still have junk and crud in my 77/357 from the 5 boxes of Tula .357 I ran through it. Same for my Sig AR-15, absolutely filthy from Silver Bear ammo. The ejected cases were typically black with soot. That shit doesn't scrub out easily.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;53050581]is Blazer that different from CCI Standard that we buy here? It's recognized as the golden standard for cheap training ammo, or was, until the price doubled thanks to US panic buying.[/QUOTE] I had a bunch of 50rd boxes of Blazer that I'm slowly using up. I feed them through my Sig conversion or my revolver and they always shower my hands with burning fragments of what I assume is powder.
Went to an indoor range today expecting that the furnace would keep it relatively warm. It didn't. It was basically at freezing in the reception area, and below freezing on the firing line because of the air evac system. Had I know this would be the case, I would have dressed as if I was going to an outdoor range. On the bright side I was shooting pretty damn good for myself.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Om4cAYV.jpg[/img] Installed a VTAC sling on my AR because InRange told me to. Using tactical rubber bands to take up the extra slack until I can be bothered to trim it. I'm in CA and trying to decide if I should register it as an assault weapon this year, or if I should just go featureless. Is there a consensus about that here?
[QUOTE=Uberslug;53052664][img]https://i.imgur.com/Om4cAYV.jpg[/img] Installed a VTAC sling on my AR because InRange told me to. Using tactical rubber bands to take up the extra slack until I can be bothered to trim it. I'm in CA and trying to decide if I should register it as an assault weapon this year, or if I should just go featureless. Is there a consensus about that here?[/QUOTE] bury it in the backyard, or move states
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;53046719]Why even build an SBR when a pistol is functionally the same thing, less restricted and expensive, just slightly less comfortable to shoulder? I wanted to SBR my pistol build before I put a KAK tube and shockwave blade on it, now I really don’t see the point anymore.[/QUOTE] Or just get a brace unless the ATF changed their mind for the umpteenth time.
[QUOTE=Uberslug;53052664][img]https://i.imgur.com/Om4cAYV.jpg[/img] Installed a VTAC sling on my AR because InRange told me to. Using tactical rubber bands to take up the extra slack until I can be bothered to trim it. I'm in CA and trying to decide if I should register it as an assault weapon this year, or if I should just go featureless. Is there a consensus about that here?[/QUOTE] If you can't move to a state thats less of a socialist dystopia, just register it. A "featureless" AR is just an awful gun to use. Peoples Republic of California Socialist Police may come to confiscate it some day, but at least it won't be featureless until then.
I was thinking of getting into shooting I've shot a small bit before, some pistols, an AR-15, a bolt-action rifle, and a shotgun. I liked it and figured I'd like to own some of my own. I'd like to buy a bunch of old WWII shit (just stuff like a K98k, Lee-Enfield, K-31, Springfield, Mosin-Nagant) cause I like collecting old shit. Anyways, I was also thinking of getting two guns I'd shoot more regularly, but I'm not quite sure what. I was thinking an accurate .22lr rifle (cause ammo for that is pretty cheap and im a cheapass) for target practice and shit, and a shotgun for skeet shooting and shit. I'm also not too into hunting and don't really need a gun for self-defense or anything. I'm also in California, so it has to be Cali-legal. For a .22, I was thinking of either a 10/22 or Cz 455 or some shit. I heard the 10/22 is pretty ubiquitous and has a lot of aftermarket parts and mods and crap. For the Cz, I heard they're pretty accurate. I'm more partial to bolt-actions since I like manually cycling a weapon cause it feels good to me, but I care mostly about accuracy. I would prefer something reasonably cheap, like it doesn't have to be a Hi-Point or some shit, but something that costs like $2k is a bit over the top for me. I would say anything up to around 500 bucks is fine, unless that's unreasonable. For a shotgun, I was thinking a Mossberg 590 or some shit cause I shot one and I liked it and I like pump-actions. Any thoughts/suggestions/w.e? And I just had a few other questions. Anybody familiar with gun ownership in Cali? What paperwork do I need? I googled it and found a fucking wikihow ([url]https://www.wikihow.com/Buy-Firearms-in-California[/url]) but it's wikihow so I dunno how legit that actually is. Maybe I'm a shitty fucking googler, but I couldn't really find much else that tried to cover everything from back-to-front. Any tips or anything for a new shooter? Where do you guys buy your guns? Gun shows, or at a local gun store or what? Do you guys normally buy used or new? Where do you guys buy ammo?
10/22 is about as good as semi auto .22s come and the cz 455 is as accurate as .22 lr gets for anything that's not gonna be fired from a sled, and I love my 590a1. if you want to stick with the old shit theme for the shotgun I love my model 12 too. they're relatively inexpensive too because they made a trillion of them, and you can get aftermarket parts to convert them into model 12 trench guns fairly easily. original trench guns are worth a fortune but if you got the extra cash they're only gonna get more valuable.
guess I'm probably going for a cz 455 then, I just really love bolt-actions. what's the best place to buy one though, and should I buy used or new? I'm pretty clueless about all of this also, what variant? there's a shit ton and I have no idea which to get. I will probably end up using a scope (dunno what scopes are good either though, suggestions would be great), but I would like to have decent irons still. I like the way the cz 455 FS looks. Are some variants particularly more accurate than others?
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