• SmoothVideo Project - '120hz' video on any TV or monitor
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[release]SVP allows you to watch any video on your PC file with frame interpolation (like you can watch it on high-end TVs and projectors). It increases frame rate by generating intermediate animation frames between existing ones to produce very smooth, fluid and clear motion. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation]The technology[/url] is well-known for a while ("TrimensionDNM", "Motion Plus", "Motionflow" and others), but now it's available for free to PC users with simple GUI and just a couple of mouse clicks. Since version 3.0 SVP provides GPU acceleration and now it's possible to watch FullHD 1080p-video recalculated to 60Hz in real-time on [url=http://www.svp-team.com/wiki/GPU_Compatibility]any modern GPU hardware[/url]. SVP actually is not a video player itself, but it enables almost any player to play smooth video. [/release] Obviously this is not real 120hz (unless you have a 120hz monitor, then you will get the equivalent of a '240hz' TV), but it gives you the exact same as what you get on non-3D TVs sold as 120hz - ~24, 25 or ~30 fps video interpolated to 60 fps. If you are using a computer monitor which is only capable of 60hz, and not any refresh rate that is a multiple of 24hz (72hz LCDs don't count) then this will significantly improve your viewing experience due to the elimination of pulldown, which is noticeable as a constant judder visible particularly in panning scenes and scrolling credits. Even if you don't like the interpolation effect on TVs, if you are stuck with a 60hz computer monitor SVP is a great option. It even works with [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1072451-PotPlayer-1.5.27313-(From-the-creator-of-KMPlayer)]PotPlayer[/url] - simply install [url=http://www.svp-team.com/files/3rd_party/Avisynth_258.exe]this[/url], [url=http://www.svp-team.com/files/3rd_party/ffdshow_rev3760_20110218_clsid.exe]this[/url] and [I]then [/I][url=http://www.svp-team.com/files/SVP_3.0.2_Lite.exe]this[/url], then set ffdshow as the decoder for as many formats as possible. Alternatively set up a DXVA or similar high performance decoder and enable the ffdshow raw video filter. Also set up madVR as the renderer for better quality (though EVR should be okay to give you an initial demo). [I]Edit: The above instructions will work for MPC-HC too if you don't want to use the preconfigured Full build.[/I] Of course there are a couple of disadvantages to SVP - on the 'i7-920' preset (there are lower options), it uses 60% CPU and 40% GPU on my [url=http://imgkk.com/i/ytp8.png]decently spec'd[/url] computer to play 1080p video in PotPlayer+madVR, and the original video needs to be of a high bitrate otherwise the pixelation in moving areas is made worse. If you have performance issues and a decent GPU, make sure OpenCL is enabled. Also you are most likely fucked if you have a 4000 series ATI card, unless you have a very strong CPU. [url]http://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Main_Page[/url]
Looks really good on my tv! I found it a bit of a pig to get working though. The version of mpc-hc it installed was x64, which is incompatible with ffdshow :(
I'm going to have to try this out on my desktop then. No way this is going happen on a laptop with a GMA 950.
[QUOTE=Flon22;29989736]The version of mpc-hc it installed was x64, which is incompatible with ffdshow :([/QUOTE] Yeah you'd probably be better off installing it via the method in the OP, except using MPC instead of PotPlayer.
Would this work well with a Geforce 9100M, and a AMD Phenom Quad Core? Not at home right now, could get more specs in a bit if you need. Oh, 6 GB RAM if that means anything.
[QUOTE=Killowatt;29990478]Would this work well with a Geforce 9100M, and a AMD Phenom Quad Core? Not at home right now, could get more specs in a bit if you need. Oh, 6 GB RAM if that means anything.[/QUOTE] It might, since with some tweaking I've got the usage down to a fraction of what it was when I wrote the OP. It's worth a shot anyway.
Am I the only one getting some really horrible fringing around fast moving characters? Any ideas on how to sort it? EDIT: It only happens with certain videos, maybe a codec problem?
Ok, I have a bit of a problem. It constantly says "waiting for ffdshow..." even though ffdshow is obviously running as my decoder. Any ideas?
[QUOTE=Flon22;29990682]Am I the only one getting some really horrible fringing around fast moving characters? Any ideas on how to sort it?[/QUOTE] Are you using the i7 preset? I believe the quality deteriorates like that on the lower ones. And are you using a high bitrate video? Compression artifacts will show up more so than usual around moving objects in SVP [QUOTE=Demache;29990774]Ok, I have a bit of a problem. It constantly says "waiting for ffdshow..." even though ffdshow is obviously running as my decoder. Any ideas?[/QUOTE] If you've installed the Lite version, you need to install their custom builds of AviSynth and FFDshow as per the PotPlayer installation in the OP and then install the Lite version again (it must be installed last).
I don't really like it.
That was the most detailed and most point-made piece of criticism I have ever seen, now the developers will know what exactly you don't like, and attempt to improve their problem that you PERFECTLY discribed.
[QUOTE=Killowatt;29991157]That was the most detailed and most point-made piece of criticism I have ever seen, now the developers will know what exactly you don't like, and attempt to improve their problem that you PERFECTLY discribed.[/QUOTE] The developers are Russian, they probably couldn't understand it anyway :v:
Tell me, why is it dumb that I don't like it? I don't like it because you can see every little camera movement. It is really distracting. That's also why I don't like the new Tvs.
We never said your perfectly constructed piece of criticism was wrong in anyway, as it made VERY valid points and such. If anything, you could earn a PhD. from that piece.
Is there a way to make ffdshow decode .mkv files? All of my hd videos are encoded this way, I suppose I could encode them again to .avi, but that's just inconvenient.
[QUOTE=GrandeVinale;29991502]Is there a way to make ffdshow decode .mkv files? All of my hd videos are encoded this way, I suppose I could encode them again to .avi, but that's just inconvenient.[/QUOTE] That's down to your player, ffdshow decodes just about any video codec. You shouldn't have a problem using either PotPlayer or MPC-HC along with Haali. [QUOTE=Mindfuck 2;29991287]I don't like it because you can see every little camera movement. It is really distracting. That's also why I don't like the new Tvs.[/QUOTE] I didn't like it much either at first, but it's certainly the lesser of two evils compared to 3:2 pulldown on computer monitors. I'm actually warming to it on my TV too, even though it isn't necessary.
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;29991510]That's down to your player, ffdshow decodes just about any video codec. You shouldn't have a problem using either PotPlayer or MPC-HC along with Haali. I didn't like it much either at first, but it's certainly the lesser of two evils compared to 3:2 pulldown on computer monitors. I'm actually warming to it on my TV too, even though it isn't necessary.[/QUOTE] Actually, it's Haali that was causing problems. I've uninstalled it (cause, why bother keeping it) reinstalled ffdshow, set merit to very high. Mission accomplished.
I hate when movies are recorded at 60 fps instead of the standard 24. It makes it feel more like a home video than a production quality movie. Good example is the DVD version of Gattaca.
Oh wow, this makes movies look ALOT smoother, thanks for this.
It's not working [IMG]http://gyazo.com/2f2893b5d8998452c8bcb34e05c62944.png[/IMG] grr
Me and my friend recently have been watching movies, so, what media player would be the best? I hate the standard Windows Media Player.
[QUOTE=Killowatt;29992634]Me and my friend recently have been watching movies, so, what media player would be the best? I hate the standard Windows Media Player.[/QUOTE] PotPlayer along with this, madVR, ReClock if you have a TV (and aren't using this), and some tweaking.
Okay, thanks!
How can I make it work in PotPlayer?
[QUOTE=LinuX;29992996]How can I make it work in PotPlayer?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Darkimmortal;29987817]It even works with [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1072451-PotPlayer-1.5.27313-(From-the-creator-of-KMPlayer)]PotPlayer[/url] - simply install [url=http://www.svp-team.com/files/3rd_party/Avisynth_258.exe]this[/url], [url=http://www.svp-team.com/files/3rd_party/ffdshow_rev3760_20110218_clsid.exe]this[/url] and [I]then [/I][url=http://www.svp-team.com/files/SVP_3.0.2_Lite.exe]this[/url], then set ffdshow as the decoder for as many formats as possible.[/QUOTE] Go to Video Decoder > Filter Management > Add registered filter > ffdshow Video Decoder > tick all Video Decoder boxes > OK > Select ffdshow Video Decoder in every dropdown
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;29993016]Go to Video Decoder > Filter Management > Add registered filter > ffdshow Video Decoder > tick all Video Decoder boxes > OK > Select ffdshow Video Decoder in every dropdown[/QUOTE] Where's the menu for Video Decoder [editline]22nd May 2011[/editline] Wait I found it
[QUOTE=LinuX;29993150]Where's the menu for Video Decoder[/QUOTE] Preferences > Filter Control
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;29993016]Go to Video Decoder > Filter Management > Add registered filter > ffdshow Video Decoder > tick all Video Decoder boxes > OK > Select ffdshow Video Decoder in every dropdown[/QUOTE] ffdshow doesn't show up in the system decoder box for me. I installed everything, left the installers with everything at default, and then restarted does it not work with 64 bit potplayer?
Didn't work it still says waiting for ffdshow video [editline]22nd May 2011[/editline] [IMG]http://gyazo.com/8f0d78b11ea86333c6acc5126028af4e.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Odellus;29993290]does it not work with 64 bit potplayer?[/QUOTE] Don't use 64-bit media players, pretty much everything besides the player itself is 32-bit and you will get little to no performance gain. Same thing as with browsers. [editline]22nd May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=LinuX;29993316]Didn't work it still says waiting for ffdshow video[/QUOTE] Did you definitely install the custom SVP builds of FFDshow and AviSynth?
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