• Buying a high end gaming PC, need opinions.
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[QUOTE=rhx123;36809729]Cant remeber where the original is, so had to ms paint it. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Wj8Os.png[/IMG] Once you spent over a certain ammount, the performance per $ decreases. As a wise poster once said: "The best form of future proofing is money in the bank" Besides, its more fun to do another build in the future. You'l probably feel like changing something in the future, and it makes sense to have some money to do it with. But whatever, your choice.[/QUOTE] Personally, I don't know if I'm going to build it with all the money I'm putting into it. Even if I spent $2000, I wouldn't want to fuck something up. I mean, I guess I could experiment with maybe getting a cheaper computer and building it for a friend... but there's no way I'll spend the amount of money I want to and end up fucking something up. I guess Newegg replaces some of the parts, though. I'm still thinking about actually building it myself.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36809986]Personally, I don't know if I'm going to build it with all the money I'm putting into it. Even if I spent $2000, I wouldn't want to fuck something up. I mean, I guess I could experiment with maybe getting a cheaper computer and building it for a friend... but there's no way I'll spend the amount of money I want to and end up fucking something up. I guess Newegg replaces some of the parts, though. I'm still thinking about actually building it myself.[/QUOTE] You'll be fine, building it is the best part. Just take it nice and slow, make an afternoon out of it. Read the manuals, watch a couple youtube videos on it if there's something you're unsure about, but other than that, it's nothing more than connecting ~8-10 components and a dozen screws or so. The hardest part is figuring how to run the cables behind the motherboard to make it look nice with the side panel off. As long as you don't try to force things together that aren't fitting, it's pretty much impossible to screw up. What do you think about my build?
[QUOTE=mblunk;36808168]So deaded, I've finalized my build for you. This is about the fastest gaming computer you can buy today without throwing away lots more money just for a couple extra frames, if any. [img]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PtKKodK41so/UAVEt8Ty42I/AAAAAAAACkM/gsonTAjxneI/s0/amazing.jpg[/img] Link: [url]http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14936529[/url] The only difference between this one and the one from my last post is that I've swapped the mobo for an MSI model which is a bit higher quality, and also reduced the RAM to 2x8GB instead of 4x8GB. Keep reading and I'll tell you why. All of these parts are generally agreed to be among the highest quality and performance components, based on both brand and manufacturer histories as well as individual Newegg item ratings distributions, but are also all very well priced. I doubt anyone else on this forum could create a more optimal system. That being said, there are 3 ways you could modify this build to create literally the most top-end of machines, but these upgrades are borderline pointless and any performance "benefit" would be negligible or entirely nonexistent: (in order from least to most helpful) 1. Order two of those memory kits, or switch it for faster 1600MHz memory, or both. Please understand that the upgrade from 16 to 32GB would do absolutely nothing for you, I promise. It's literally wasted money and the extra capacity wouldn't even be useful 8-10 years from now. Additionally, memory speed, especially when it's 1333MHz vs 1600, means NOTHING for performance. I've seen people downclock their RAM to absurdly slow speeds (~400MHz,) then overclock it to the max (1800MHz+), and there was a difference in game FPS of about 3-5% on average, with most of the loss from slow speeds disappearing once clocks were back up into the more typical regions. The difference between 1333 and 1600 is probably less than a tenth of a percent, but the difference in cost is much greater than that. 2. Upgrade the SLI GTX 670s to SLI GTX 680s. This will add about $200 to the overall cost of the build and you'll sacrifice the great coolers on the Gigabyte models that I've picked out (unless there are 680 models with this cooler) that would let you overclock to 680 levels of performance easily and for free. You could [i]maybe[/i] get up to 5-10% more performance with the upgrade to 680s if you found models that also have great coolers and you overclocked them. 3. Upgrade the 128GB Vertex 4 SSD to the 256GB model. The 256GB model [i]does[/i] have about 10% faster write speeds, but for another ~$120 it's not worth it unless you think 256GB is going to be plenty for you for several years to come (which it might, you know your storage needs better than I do.) If you need extra capacity above 256GB, that money would be better spent getting a large HDD to supplement the 128GB SSD. If you truly need the most amazing build you can get without being plain wasteful, I guess you could get upgrades #2 and #3, but #1, getting the full 32GB of RAM, is absolutely pointless, trust me. Just read your motherboard manual when everything arrives to make sure you insert your RAM into the correct slots for two-stick dual channel mode. The pattern varies from board to board.[/QUOTE] Thanks for being friendly. In any case, I do like to have pretty decent capacity. Would you reccommend using a small 64GB SSD for the OS and maybe a VelociRaptor drive for the HDD? I mean, the whole reason I have the 512GB SSD is for the faster read/write speeds. If I get a 15,000 RPM HDD, will it be close to the read/write speeds of an SSD? Also, there's a factory overclocked model of the Gigabyte GTX 680 that has pretty good cooling from what I've read of it. GPU Link: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125422[/url]
Are you sure you even need those speeds on anything? Like the difference on load times is minimal if you have 8 gigs of RAM.
[QUOTE=mblunk;36810058]You'll be fine, building it is the best part. Just take it nice and slow, make an afternoon out of it. Read the manuals, watch a couple youtube videos on it if there's something you're unsure about, but other than that, it's nothing more than connecting ~8-10 components and a dozen screws or so. The hardest part is figuring how to run the cables behind the motherboard to make it look nice with the side panel off. As long as you don't try to force things together that aren't fitting, it's pretty much impossible to screw up. What do you think about my build?[/QUOTE] I like it. The one thing I'm a little iffy on is the processor. I read a benchmarks review and I know the i7-3960X came out on top. I'm just wondering if maybe that would be the same with gaming? Also, I read somewhere back that if I get a full tower case, my cooling will be better, is that true?
[QUOTE=deaded38;36810093]Thanks for being friendly. In any case, I do like to have pretty decent capacity. Would you reccommend using a small 64GB SSD for the OS and maybe a VelociRaptor drive for the HDD? I mean, the whole reason I have the 512GB SSD is for the faster read/write speeds. If I get a 15,000 RPM HDD, will it be close to the read/write speeds of an SSD? Also, there's a factory overclocked model of the Gigabyte GTX 680 that has pretty good cooling from what I've read of it. GPU Link: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125422[/url][/QUOTE] The speeds will be fast, but not as fast as the ssd. If you want faster speeds with mechanical drives, I'd get some western digital re4's and put them in raid. Which is faster and quieter than a raptor.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36810146]I like it. The one thing I'm a little iffy on is the processor. I read a benchmarks review and I know the i7-3960X came out on top. I'm just wondering if maybe that would be the same with gaming? Also, I read somewhere back that if I get a full tower case, my cooling will be better, is that true?[/QUOTE] If the cable management has been done right as well.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36810093]Thanks for being friendly. In any case, I do like to have pretty decent capacity. Would you reccommend using a small 64GB SSD for the OS and maybe a VelociRaptor drive for the HDD? I mean, the whole reason I have the 512GB SSD is for the faster read/write speeds. If I get a 15,000 RPM HDD, will it be close to the read/write speeds of an SSD? Also, there's a factory overclocked model of the Gigabyte GTX 680 that has pretty good cooling from what I've read of it. GPU Link: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125422[/url][/QUOTE] Even velociraptors don't compare to SSDs today, the random access speed is several thousand times faster which is what matters the most. How much data are you storing on your current computer? If you really want something in the 512GB range, then at least get this one: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227809[/url] The SSD you chose is an older, slower model. The one above is newer and much faster. And that card looks good. Two of those in SLI would certainly make a beast if the price doesn't bother you. [QUOTE=deaded38;36810146]I like it. The one thing I'm a little iffy on is the processor. I read a benchmarks review and I know the i7-3960X came out on top. I'm just wondering if maybe that would be the same with gaming? Also, I read somewhere back that if I get a full tower case, my cooling will be better, is that true?[/QUOTE] The 3960X is never going to be used to its potential, the 3770K alone won't even be fully used to keep your 680's busy, especially overclocked. And the 3820, 3930, and 3960 are older architectures that aren't as fast clock per clock.
Also, for my processor, would this heatsink keep the CPU cool in enough? [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024[/url] I read somewhere in the reviews that it covers some of your motherboard slots. I plan on using this motherboard: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157283[/url] Just from looking at it, would you say that the CPU cooler wouldn't cover any RAM slots? And also, would it keep the CPU cool enough if I had a 140mm fan and a 120mm fan?
That cooler is amazing. IF you get low profile ram, you should be good.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36810221]Also, for my processor, would this heatsink keep the CPU cool in enough? [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024[/url] I read somewhere in the reviews that it covers some of your motherboard slots. I plan on using this motherboard: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157283[/url] Just from looking at it, would you say that the CPU cooler wouldn't cover any RAM slots? And also, would it keep the CPU cool enough if I had a 140mm fan and a 120mm fan?[/QUOTE] That motherboard will only work with the 3820, 3930, and 3960 CPUs (socket LGA2011), which as stated above, won't ever be put to use, not even in 5 years. And that cooler only blocks RAM if you get silly RAM with gimmicky tall heatsinks, normal-height RAM like what I picked will tuck right under it.
Get the evga x79!
Could one of you explain how to make a wishlist? I can't seem to figure it out lol. I just finished editing my cart. But I really don't feel like getting individual links.
Go to here: [url]https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishLists.aspx[/url] And at the top, enter a wishlist name and hit "create new." Then go to your cart, check the box left of "qty" at the top to select all, then click the "move selected to" dropdown and click on the wishlist you made and it will copy all the items over. Then from the wishlist, click the select all button and hit "add to cart" to copy them all back to your cart, and they'll stay in the wishlist. To share the wishlist, go back to the wishlist page linked above, check the wishlist, then click the "make public" button at the bottom. Then click on the list and copy the wishlist ID from the url, then go to the public wishlist listings, and click on any one of them at random, then paste your wishlist ID in the url, replacing theirs, to make a public linkable list.
[QUOTE=mblunk;36810545]Go to here: [url]https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishLists.aspx[/url] And at the top, enter a wishlist name and hit "create new." Then go to your cart, check the box left of "qty" at the top to select all, then click the "move selected to" dropdown and click on the wishlist you made and it will copy all the items over. Then from the wishlist, click the select all button and hit "add to cart" to copy them all back to your cart, and they'll stay in the wishlist. To share the wishlist, go back to the wishlist page linked above, check the wishlist, then click the "make public" button at the bottom. Then click on the list and copy the wishlist ID from the url, then go to the public wishlist listings, and click on any one of them at random, then paste your wishlist ID in the url, replacing theirs, to make a public linkable list.[/QUOTE] Thanks. [url]https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=27716428[/url] Look good?
[url]http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=27716428[/url] This is the correct one. You have to go to a public wishlist and copy the id from yours to that one.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36810712]Thanks. [url]https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=27716428[/url] Look good?[/QUOTE] That's a mini-ITX motherboard, it only has one PCI-E slot, so you would only be able to install one of your video cards. Plus, Intel motherboards have less features and usually get worse review distributions (more people have problems with them) than other board builders like the MSI one I linked. Other than that, yeah, looks great.
[QUOTE=mblunk;36811071]That's a mini-ITX motherboard, it only has one PCI-E slot, so you would only be able to install one of your video cards. Plus, Intel motherboards have less features and usually get worse review distributions (more people have problems with them) than other board builders like the MSI one I linked. Other than that, yeah, looks great.[/QUOTE] Alright. I'll switch out the motherboard for the one you linked. Thanks again.
It looks like a lot of people are having problems with that OCZ PSU, not to mention it's way overkill. I'd suggest this one, where 91% of people gave it 4 or 5 stars, vs only 61% for your OCZ 1250W (and 23% only gave it 1 star, suggesting dead on arrival/unit failure or worse(!)) [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171049[/url] Plus it costs a lot less. [editline]17th July 2012[/editline] It also looks like quite a few people were having issues with the patriot RAM you picked as well, I'd suggest this corsair kit instead (plus it's $15 less and the same speed, and also normal height so it'll fit under your CPU cooler) [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233280[/url]
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Buy a maxed out Mac pro, its simply the bestest and most powerfulest comptuer you can bye.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;36814519]Buy a maxed out Mac pro, its simply the bestest and most powerfulest comptuer you can bye.[/QUOTE] The section is called PC Building for a reason. Mac Pros are overpriced (but not totally pieces of crap unlike Alienware) compared to building. The current build so far still looks good to me, but OP, do you happen to have a Win7 install disk somewhere? Otherwise, you'll need to factor that in too.
Thread about building a gaming PC, CPU the OP wants to get is an i7. Come on guys, you know he's either trolling or very dumb.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;36814519]Buy a maxed out Mac pro, its simply the bestest and most powerfulest comptuer you can bye.[/QUOTE] Hahahahahaha wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder. AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;36815272']Hahahahahaha wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder. AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/QUOTE] of course I'm serious, are you poor or soemthing?
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;36814653]The section is called PC Building for a reason. Mac Pros are overpriced (but not totally pieces of crap unlike Alienware) compared to building. The current build so far still looks good to me, but OP, do you happen to have a Win7 install disk somewhere? Otherwise, you'll need to factor that in too.[/QUOTE] I think my buddy who built my computer last time has a universal (or whatever it's called) Windows 7 Ultimate disk. Hopefully he'll let me install that on there.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;36816295]of course I'm serious, are you poor or soemthing?[/QUOTE] No, it's just you are stupid enough to reccomend a mac to someone who wants the PC for GAMES Something with macs suck immensly at. [editline]18th July 2012[/editline] Not only that, a dual socket 2011 build will absolutely ANNIHILATE a maxed out mac pro in every way imaginable. [editline]18th July 2012[/editline] And to add to that, doesn't a maxed out mac pro cost as much as a new car?
OP, do you have all the information you need now?
[QUOTE=cosmic duck;36817607]OP, do you have all the information you need now?[/QUOTE] I suppose so. If not, I'll open another thread. Thanks again to all the people who actually contributed something helpful.
[QUOTE=deaded38;36817777]I suppose so. If not, I'll open another thread. Thanks again to all the people who actually contributed something helpful.[/QUOTE] Please don't. Ask follow-up general questions in the 'quick questions that don't deserve their own thread' thread.
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