• New 15 inch MacBook Pro coming with retina display and 3.0 USB ports?
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[url]http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/14/thinner-15-inch-macbook-pro-coming-with-retina-display-and-usb-3-0/[/url] Don't know how true that is since this is the first time I've actually been keeping up to date on when the new macbooks are coming out. if this is true though it would be pretty rad although I'll kinda miss the ethernet port since I like to use it every once in a while at work and stuff. On a side note how much do you think I could sell a 2009 iMac (3.0 ghz core2duo) and a 2009 MacBook Pro with an SSD and high res anti glossy display for? I was thinking about selling both of these to try to make up enough money to get one of these bad boys when it comes out but I'm not sure how much to sell them for, I know that apple products keep their value pretty well but ya...
I don't even want to think what they'd price a retina display MacBook.
[QUOTE=PieClock;35959283]I don't even want to think what they'd price a retina display MacBook.[/QUOTE] Well retina display iPads were the same price so hopefully they dont be giant jerks about it and jack it up tons.
Im more worried about dead pixels. Its bad enough on current displays just imagine the possible rate when you introduce 4x more pixels on a single display.
Oh fuck. My dad is in love my my iPads display and he has a MacBook too. He's not even going to hesitate when this comes out.
[url=http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/15/retina-displays-also-coming-to-next-generation-imac/]Also rumored for imacs, oh god[/url].
im very looking forward to WWDC.
Now this questions, should I get a second hand 15" 2011 MacBook Pro or wait for the new 13" one, should it have retina? I do video editing, etc..
WWDC is looking like... New Mac's New iPhone New iOS Mountain Lion ...pretty much everything. :v:
I'm a bit sceptical about the "Retina" part. If they pull it out, I'll be pretty excited. Then we might actually begin to see higher resolution screens. "HD" is beginning to grow old. The only proof I've seen of the retina screen is just some large icons - but, at least on Windows, icons come in sizes up to 512x512 already, so I don't really think of it as likely.
[QUOTE=Mr. Agree;35964577]Now this questions, should I get a second hand 15" 2011 MacBook Pro or wait for the new 13" one, should it have retina? I do video editing, etc..[/QUOTE] wait a month more.
[QUOTE=Dumb User;35964800]WWDC is looking like... New Mac's New iPhone New iOS Mountain Lion ...pretty much everything. :v:[/QUOTE] I doubt a new iPhone, I think they're going to wait until October-ish (iPhone 4S time) and release it then. Usually they release a preview of an update to iOS for devs a few months before public release, so I think they'll preview iOS 6 at WWDC and then release in full with the new iPhones in a few months.
I got told it's all rumors (which is probably what they all say) but they gave me hints of the end of the year. Unless it's to throw me off the scent [IMG]https://sites.google.com/site/hyliankenshin/hmm.JPG[/IMG] Might just get a 2011 MacBook Pro anyway, good enough for me. Can't afford a brand new one so I have to get used/refurbished.
What resolution would it be? 326 ppi on 15 inches? Quite a lot. I am not sure if a high resolution is the best idea for a mobile device as it requires more ressources and stresses the battery more in the end.
[QUOTE=Desuh;35971592]What resolution would it be? 326 ppi on 15 inches? Quite a lot. I am not sure if a high resolution is the best idea for a mobile device as it requires more ressources and stresses the battery more in the end.[/QUOTE] You mean a mobile device like say... the iphone or the ipad?
I wanna know if Windows installed on it will properly support the new resolutions or not.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;35965564]I'm a bit sceptical about the "Retina" part. If they pull it out, I'll be pretty excited. Then we might actually begin to see higher resolution screens. "HD" is beginning to grow old. The only proof I've seen of the retina screen is just some large icons - but, at least on Windows, icons come in sizes up to 512x512 already, so I don't really think of it as likely.[/QUOTE] There's a hidden option in lion or mountain lion (can't remember which) which enlarges everything, assumingly for retina resolution [editline]18th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=michaeldim;36003382]I wanna know if Windows installed on it will properly support the new resolutions or not.[/QUOTE] It's most likely that other pcs will copy the retina idea if the mac gets it. At the moment however, the retina display on Windows would make everything look tiny
Going to wait on the new releases, then buy a refurbed 2011 one I guess.
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;36004106]There's a hidden option in lion or mountain lion (can't remember which) which enlarges everything, assumingly for retina resolution [editline]18th May 2012[/editline] It's most likely that other pcs will copy the retina idea if the mac gets it. At the moment however, the retina display on Windows would make everything look tiny[/QUOTE] There's a higher PPI in Windows 7 as well, and Windows 8 includes support for ~300PPI resolutions. I'm not going to say that Apple wasn't the first to do such a high resolution display on a widely released device, but saying that the rest of the industry is "copying" is dumb - Apple isn't the one developing these displays, and what about dual core phones? Did Apple copy that from some other manufacturer? No, they just went on upgrading the tech in their phones like the rest of the industry - sometimes you're the first to do it, sometimes you're not. People have to realise that "Retina" is just a gimmick name for a high-density display (by today's standards), and not an enormous jump in display technology. Things like "PureView" (again a marketing gimmick) are actual innovations - they took a sensor and developed technology that allowed it to take a series of photos and stitch the best together. They used the technology in an entirely new way - the "Retina" display was just an, albeit very nice, extension of the tech we have today. I'm not bashing Apple or anyone else for that matter, but people have to learn the difference between "copying" and just not be the first to be on the wagon. [editline]21st May 2012[/editline] I would like to add that the other info you posted about the hidden option sounds promising, but would it make sense for Apple to have the option in Lion? I'm not completely aware of their hardware update scheme, but wouldn't new "Retina" Macs be released with Mountain Lion?
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36040281]I would like to add that the other info you posted about the hidden option sounds promising, but would it make sense for Apple to have the option in Lion? I'm not completely aware of their hardware update scheme, but wouldn't new "Retina" Macs be released with Mountain Lion?[/QUOTE] The option doesn't exist in any menus, I believe it's just a config file toggle. So the feature doesn't exist as far as the end user is concerned
I just checked on Windows 7 Professional, and I can scale everything to 200%, that's 4 times the normal icon size (as far as I'm concerned), and with a bit of sleazy calculation, this would translate to ~360PPI support (if I didn't mess up somewhere, which is, admittedly, a possibility) and while I won't completely put the "retina" ideaout in the cold, I'd say it isn't completely foolproof evidence. [editline]21st May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Protocol7;36040378]The option doesn't exist in any menus, I believe it's just a config file toggle. So the feature doesn't exist as far as the end user is concerned[/QUOTE] I know, but why would Apple include an option in an OS they won't use for products with said density? Wouldn't make that much sense.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36040409]I know, but why would Apple include an option in an OS they won't use for products with said density? Wouldn't make that much sense.[/QUOTE] I haven't seen if the option really exists myself, but TBH I'm not sure we're at a point in time where higher DPI on monitors is necessary. With how close we hold phones to our faces I see it being justifiable for mobile devices, but higher resolution on my 25 inch monitor? 1080p is plenty.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36040437]I haven't seen if the option really exists myself, but TBH I'm not sure we're at a point in time where higher DPI on monitors is necessary. With how close we hold phones to our faces I see it being justifiable for mobile devices, but higher resolution on my 25 inch monitor? 1080p is plenty.[/QUOTE] I'd say I would like higher resolution displays, it's not that it's completely necessary, but I've been spoiled by my phone, and the fact that we see tablets with higher resolutions. Besides, I would like larger screen sizes to also mean more real estate. 1080P 27" displays are nice, but you don't really gain any more screen space over a 24" or even a 21.5". And the prices we pay just for a display to be 1080P are ludicrous (at least here in Denmark), it's not like this is completely new screen tecnology.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36040503]I'd say I would like higher resolution displays, it's not that it's completely necessary, but I've been spoiled by my phone, and the fact that we see tablets with higher resolutions. Besides, I would like larger screen sizes to also mean more real estate. 1080P 27" displays are nice, but you don't really gain any more screen space over a 24" or even a 21.5". And the prices we pay just for a display to be 1080P are ludicrous (at least here in Denmark), it's not like this is completely new screen tecnology.[/QUOTE] My fear is that with higher resolution we won't be seeing any more real estate. They'll be like phones, where the actual working space is the same, there's just more pixels crammed into it.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36040537]My fear is that with higher resolution we won't be seeing any more real estate. They'll be like phones, where the actual working space is the same, there's just more pixels crammed into it.[/QUOTE] It's still an improvement, though. But yeah, I hope they just raise the PPI to maybe ~190-200 and then increase screen sizes.
What exactly is a "Retina" display? Is that just Apple's branding for their high-PPI displays?
[QUOTE=Zero Vector;36090820]What exactly is a "Retina" display? Is that just Apple's branding for their high-PPI displays?[/QUOTE] It's their moniker for displays with a high enough pixel density that you can't make out pixels at 50 centimeters or something. The definition is rubbish, so let's just say their ~330PPI displays.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36091199]It's their moniker for displays with a high enough pixel density that you can't make out pixels at 50 centimeters or something. The definition is rubbish, so let's just say their ~330PPI displays.[/QUOTE] Regardless, they're pretty fucking sweet.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;36091963]Regardless, they're pretty fucking sweet.[/QUOTE] As sweet as 330PPI IPS displays goes, yeah.
I'm pretty sure that their definition of what 'Retina' is changes and is not relient on a set distance. The iPhone has a 326ppi screen, whereas the iPad has a 264ppi screen, but they still call it a retina display because they argue that you'd be using the iPad further away from your face. I guess they'd spin it whatever way they want to make sure their new product sounds 'resolutionary'.
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