• General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Install Arch
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arch sucks [editline]30th April 2012[/editline] objectively
So I got 2 kernel panics. The first one was because I was dumb, the second one was because I forgot that I'm using IDE, not SATA. Hopefully this next one will get me in. Also, kernel seeds makes the menuconfig process a hell of a lot more easier if you don't know what's going on.
[T][/T][QUOTE=Tucan Sam;35778109]Try before you reformat, regardless how you feel about windows it will be alot easier going about arch if you have some experience with it first.[/QUOTE] I did that, before installing gentoo on my main build but I still managed to fuck shit up. (some kernel compile error)
A page late, but [QUOTE=FlamingSpaz;35769152]VirtualBox is like an emulated version of an OS.[/QUOTE] Virtualized, not emulated.
[QUOTE=FPtje;35772732]Should you really install Arch if you don't know what OS virtualisation is? I mean, if you don't know that, then you're likely not to know other important things related to operating systems, causing huge problems in understanding Arch Linux and solving the problems it can have.[/QUOTE] Arch isn't that hard. It's basically an Ubuntu-like installer in ~~text mode~~ Where text mode is a Blue screen with big block buttons and you navigate around with the arrow keys and enter. The hardest part is knowing you have to run pacman -S gnome (or whatever DE you want) when you first boot up, and sticking X in rc.conf DAEMONS. [editline]1st May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=FlamingSpaz;35741961]Is there a terminal program that lists the biggest files on your HDD?[/QUOTE] du [editline]1st May 2012[/editline] Just do something like this: [code] du --all / | sort -n [/code] It includes sizes of directories though, and I don't know how to ignore those and only show files.
Ive being struggling to get LightDM installed with Pacman. Pacman cant find it.
[QUOTE=TheCreeper;35784355]Ive being struggling to get LightDM installed with Pacman. Pacman cant find it.[/QUOTE] looks like its in the AUR [URL]https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40708[/URL]
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;35784150]Arch isn't that hard. It's basically an Ubuntu-like installer in ~~text mode~~ Where text mode is a Blue screen with big block buttons and you navigate around with the arrow keys and enter. The hardest part is knowing you have to run pacman -S gnome (or whatever DE you want) when you first boot up, and sticking X in rc.conf DAEMONS. [/QUOTE] I know what Arch is and how it is installed, but I doubt he will know what he's doing if he doesn't even understand [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1160456?p=35768996&viewfull=1#post35768996]the concept behind partitions[/url]. No matter how easy a beginner's guide is, if you lack the very basic understanding of operating systems, you'll have a hard time installing it. Not to mention the problems that can arise with Arch that actually require some computer problem solving skills. Think of drivers not working correctly, pacman being locked inappropriately, package dependency troubles and whatnot.
[QUOTE=Takkun10;35778785]I don't see why everyone is so all over arch all the time, I understand how you basically build a super customized distro but in reality I never really learned all that much from it the 2 months I used it. I was always a much bigger fan of debian releases, I felt I learned more having to strip away all the shit I didn't want and change things around and tweak it to what I needed. Just my 2 cents though, arch is still a great distro if you want bleeding edge.[/QUOTE] Because obviously customizing a UI >>>> getting services running :rolleyes:
I installed archlinux and it seems to have fucked up my windows bootmgr even though I installed everything onto sdc including grub problem is I can't copy all of the files off my windows dynamic disk now which is in stripe mode pretty much everything on it is worthless but I have 300gb worth of steam games which I can't redownload due to my shit internet plan I tried this in console as well as changing the chunk size around and the only way to get it to mount was with this sdb2 and sda2 are they only part of the 2 disks which are dynamic disks these are my partitions [quote] [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX raid]$ cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks name 8 16 488385527 sdb 8 17 78782468 sdb1 8 18 409598976 sdb2 8 0 488385527 sda 8 1 102400 sda1 8 2 78679040 sda2 8 3 409598976 sda3 8 48 976761527 sdd 8 49 976760000 sdd1 8 32 976762584 sdc 8 33 96358 sdc1 8 34 39062047 sdc2 8 35 19535040 sdc3 8 36 1 sdc4 8 37 908202613 sdc5 8 38 9866430 sdc6 9 0 488278016 md0 [/quote] and this is what I did in console [quote] [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX ~]$ sudo mdadm --build /dev/md0 -c 64 -l 0 -n 2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sda2 mdadm: array /dev/md0 built and started. [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX ~]$ sudo mount /dev/md0 /media/raid [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX ~]$ cd /media/raid [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX raid]$ ls ls: cannot access Games: Input/output error ls: cannot access @The Lord of the Rings Online: Input/output error ls: cannot access Age of Empires II + The Conquerors Expansion: Input/output error ls: cannot access AOEIII: Input/output error ls: cannot access BoomHS.avi: Input/output error ls: cannot access compressed.avi: Input/output error ls: cannot access Counter-Strike Source: Input/output error ls: cannot access CRT: Input/output error ls: cannot access deaglehs.avi: Input/output error ls: cannot access deaglehs.mp3: Input/output error ls: cannot access deaglehs000001.avi: Input/output error ls: cannot access Documents: Input/output error ls: cannot access dumpshithere: Input/output error ls: cannot access gymkhana.avi: Input/output error ls: cannot access IMAG0035.png: Input/output error ls: cannot access Lan Music: Input/output error ls: cannot access Lan-Games: Input/output error ls: cannot access League of Legends: Input/output error ls: cannot access Legend of Grimrock: Input/output error ls: cannot access maps: Input/output error ls: cannot access Minecraft: Input/output error ls: cannot access MinecraftCracked: Input/output error ls: cannot access Need For Speed World: Input/output error ls: cannot access Photo Editing: Input/output error ls: cannot access PJR-TOSH: Input/output error ls: cannot access Raw Movies: Input/output error ls: cannot access RevEmu: Input/output error ls: cannot access Scrim: Input/output error ls: cannot access Shoot Many Robots: Input/output error ls: cannot access Srcdemo2: Input/output error ls: cannot access SRCDS: Input/output error ls: cannot access Starcraft 2: Input/output error ls: cannot access Syndicate: Input/output error ls: cannot access System Volume Information: Input/output error ls: cannot access Test: Input/output error ls: cannot access The Lord of the Rings Online: Input/output error ls: cannot access video.pass: Input/output error ls: cannot access WindowsImageBackup: Input/output error $RECYCLE.BIN Photo Editing @The Lord of the Rings Online Raw Movies AOEIII RevEmu Age of Empires II + The Conquerors Expansion SRCDS BoomHS.avi Scrim CRT Shoot Many Robots Counter-Strike Source Srcdemo2 Documents Starcraft 2 Dungeon Defenders Steam Games Syndicate Halo2 System Volume Information IMAG0035.png Test Just Cause 2 The Lord of the Rings Online Lan Music WindowsImageBackup Lan-Games compressed.avi League of Legends deaglehs.avi Legend of Grimrock deaglehs.mp3 Minecraft deaglehs000001.avi MinecraftCracked dumpshithere Movies gymkhana.avi Need For Speed World maps PJR-TOSH ns_install_v32.exe Phoenix video.pass [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX raid]$ [/quote]
Im trying to build the latest codeblocks source but following the tutorial I get this: [code]./bootstrap libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'. libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh' libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.in and libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros in-tree. libtoolize: Consider adding `-I m4' to ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in Makefile.am. configure.in:79: warning: macro `AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG' not found in library configure.in:80: warning: macro `AM_PATH_WXCONFIG' not found in library configure.in:79: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. configure.in:80: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_WXCONFIG [/code] anyone know how to fix it?
[QUOTE=Richy19;35794160]Im trying to build the latest codeblocks source but following the tutorial I get this: [code]./bootstrap libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'. libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh' libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.in and libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros in-tree. libtoolize: Consider adding `-I m4' to ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in Makefile.am. configure.in:79: warning: macro `AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG' not found in library configure.in:80: warning: macro `AM_PATH_WXCONFIG' not found in library configure.in:79: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. configure.in:80: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_WXCONFIG [/code] anyone know how to fix it?[/QUOTE] Have you installed libtool and friends?
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;35794208]Have you installed libtool and friends?[/QUOTE] yep
[QUOTE=Richy19;35794229]yep[/QUOTE] including automake and the autotools suite? Because I remember having the exact same problem before, I just don't remember how I fixed it.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;35794286]including automake and the autotools suite? Because I remember having the exact same problem before, I just don't remember how I fixed it.[/QUOTE] Yea there all installed [editline]2nd May 2012[/editline] I was missing wx-common which provids the needed wxwin.m4 -___-
Don't know if i should sit down right now and get on with installing Arch. I mean: [QUOTE=FPtje;35772732]Should you really install Arch if you don't know what OS virtualisation is? I mean, if you don't know that, then you're likely not to know other important things related to operating systems, causing huge problems in understanding Arch Linux and solving the problems it can have.[/QUOTE] This. Should i just go for a more self-installing distro anyways?
[QUOTE=Moofy;35796341] Should i just go for a more self-installing distro anyways?[/QUOTE] Gotta learn how to walk before you can run.
[QUOTE=Van-man;35796377]Gotta learn how to walk before you can run.[/QUOTE] So by saying that.. Simple distro?
[QUOTE=Moofy;35796781]So by saying that.. Simple distro?[/QUOTE] Or something that's extremely well-documented down to the smallest detail, and has every possible scenario. But that's just me.
[QUOTE=Moofy;35796781]So by saying that.. Simple distro?[/QUOTE] I'd recommend you start with a distro, wich sets up everything for you(ex. ubuntu/fedora/openSUSE), and then if you feel confident, you can read up on the arch installation guide, and then install arch. Arch Linux isn't that hard, it just needs some time to get used to it. You just need to manually configure and install things (ex. Xorg)
[QUOTE=kaukassus;35796963]I'd recommend you start with a distro, wich sets up everything for you(ex. ubuntu/fedora/openSUSE), and then if you feel confident, you can read up on the arch installation guide, and then install arch. Arch Linux isn't that hard, it just needs some time to get used to it. You just need to manually configure and install things (ex. Xorg)[/QUOTE] Xorg? I've never had any need for configuring that, except maybe for the keyboard layout, but there's applications you can install that allow you to change that during runtime. It works pretty well out-of-the box I'd say.
[QUOTE=kaukassus;35796963]I'd recommend you start with a distro, wich sets up everything for you(ex. ubuntu/fedora/openSUSE), and then if you feel confident, you can read up on the arch installation guide, and then install arch. Arch Linux isn't that hard, it just needs some time to get used to it. You just need to manually configure and install things (ex. Xorg)[/QUOTE] What distro would you recommend then? For the more simpler one. And i wan't to install Arch, just can't get it up in VirtualBox so i can "practice" it.
I'm just going to go against the current here and say something that might offend everyone here. Are you ready? Arch isn't necessarily "straight forward". There, I said it. It is probably the most well documented distro I have ever used, but due to it's lack of drivers (this is actually a good thing, generally), you might have some problems on some hardware. For instance, I had trouble with Arch being unable to find the boot rom itself and I had to symbolically link the correct one to the one it had anticipated during boot. It's awesome though.
I think that the best thing for you would be to install arch or whichever distro in a virtual machine. You can use VirtualBox or VMware. I am experienced with Virtualbox, I might be able to help you if you need help. I do believe that we have (or used to) a thread describing how to install ubuntu or whatever distro in VirtualBox. Following the first steps should allow you to get your installation going (Setup virtual drives and mounting the ISO). After that you should be able to follow the Beginner's guide on arch's wiki. The great thing about VMs is that you can play around them without the fear or massively fucking up something. That way, you can learn through experience without the risk of losing all your data. You should also do some reading. The arch wiki and the gentoo handbook (or whatever it's called) are great resources. They will explain how certain things, like partitions should be done. If you want to know how something like partitions actually work, you should read up on wikipedia or some other sites (Wikipedia tends to be verbose and too in detail for a lot of people).
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;35797116]Xorg? I've never had any need for configuring that, except maybe for the keyboard layout, but there's applications you can install that allow you to change that during runtime. It works pretty well out-of-the box I'd say.[/QUOTE] Yeah, modern Xorg can auto detect most things, especially video modes and settings. And the thing about keyboard layouts only really applies if you don't use the US QWERTY layout. :v:
[QUOTE=Moofy;35797179]What distro would you recommend then? For the more simpler one. And i wan't to install Arch, just can't get it up in VirtualBox so i can "practice" it.[/QUOTE] Workstation > Oracles crap Use workstation it is loads more stable, the link I posted has a download and key for use till November 15th, use it. Centos is a good distro that lets dig down into it but still has enough things built in so it is hard to "get stuck"
Time to install arch in a VM. [editline]2nd May 2012[/editline] [img]http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5109/screenshot2012050218491.png[/img] Maybe I just won't install a graphical environmental to force myself to use the terminal.
I got Gentoo working, but I'm having problems getting slim to start up Xfce. Xfce works on it's own if I use 'startx', so it's a problem with connecting the two. What happens when I log in is it gives me a black screen with that large 'X' cursor. Here's my slim.conf (comments omitted to make it shorter) [code] default_path /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin default_xserver /usr/bin/X xserver_arguments -nolisten tcp -br -deferglyphs 16 halt_cmd /sbin/shutdown -h now reboot_cmd /sbin/shutdown -r now console_cmd /usr/bin/xterm -C -fg white -bg black +sb -T "Console login" -e /bin/sh -c "/bin/cat /etc/issue; exec /bin/login" xauth_path /usr/bin/xauth authfile /var/run/slim.auth numlock on login_cmd exec /bin/bash -login /usr/share/slim/Xsession %session sessionstart_cmd /usr/bin/sessreg -a -l :0.0 %user sessionstop_cmd /usr/bin/sessreg -d -l :0.0 %user daemon yes sessiondir /etc/X11/Sessions screenshot_cmd import -window root /slim.png welcome_msg Welcome to %host shutdown_msg The system is halting... reboot_msg The system is rebooting... current_theme gentoo_10_dark lockfile /var/run/slim.pid logfile /var/log/slim.log [/code] /etc/env.d/90xsession [code] XSESSION="startxfce4" [/code]
[QUOTE=neos300;35798726]Time to install arch in a VM. [editline]2nd May 2012[/editline] [img]http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5109/screenshot2012050218491.png[/img] Maybe I just won't install a graphical environmental to force myself to use the terminal.[/QUOTE] Don't use view [url]http://communities.vmware.com/community/vmtn/beta/workstationtp2012[/url] Workstation Beta is free
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;35803376]Don't use view [url]http://communities.vmware.com/community/vmtn/beta/workstationtp2012[/url] Workstation Beta is free[/QUOTE] Honestly, if people want to use their Virt-tool of their choice, then why bother telling them to change? VMware-player and Virtualbox aren't that bad compared to workstation. if they get the job done, then why change?
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