• General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. Install Arch
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[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;35995040]Strange. Compiled fine on my home computer. I hope you find a solution though :)[/QUOTE] It's because my cpu doesn't support those instruction sets. If I start up the binary package and then remove the libcef_desura.so, it will work, but since that's the html support, I just get the gui and no content. It's the same problem outlined [url=http://www.desura.com/groups/desura/forum/thread/cant-login2]here[/url]. I'm just curious if there's a way to get libcef working without the sse2/3 instructions.
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;35995181]Since you already have experience in Linux, i'd say to go for Arch (not just Archbang) and go nuts customizing it. It's really a lot of fun.[/QUOTE] What about for any future Linux installations I do... Is Arch really better then Ubuntu?
[QUOTE=Charrax;35996659]Is Arch really better then Ubuntu?[/QUOTE] 400% Yes.
[QUOTE=Foxconn;35996741]400% Yes.[/QUOTE] Care to explain how? Or does that deviate to far from a "Small question"?
[QUOTE=calzoneman;35993350]1. Fedora 14 Beta? I'm assuming that's a typo 2. You can always install XFCE through Fedora's package manager; it's quite easy.[/QUOTE] Yeah, typo. Also I have no intention in installing fedora.
[QUOTE=Charrax;35997077]Care to explain how? Or does that deviate to far from a "Small question"?[/QUOTE] One word: [B]Customization[/B].
Then Gentoo or LinuxFromScratch
[QUOTE=ichiman94;36003069]Then Gentoo or LinuxFromScratch[/QUOTE] More like Assembly and a custom written kernel.
[QUOTE=Charrax;35996659]What about for any future Linux installations I do... Is Arch really better then Ubuntu?[/QUOTE] Not really. Depends where you're coming from. If you're a control freak, love updates and being bleeding-edge, love minimalism and speed then you're probably going to like Arch, I love it. Ubuntu is great for beginners and professionals. It's fast, has the PPA system (Like the AUR but pre-compiled) and is really easy to use - It's also customizable too. Depends what you're looking for in a distro and what type of user you are really.
I decided to install Arch to replace CentOS on my silly server hidden under tons of computer parts today and I ran into a fuckload of problems. First, it started throwing errors around about how my disk can't be read, then GRUB takes fucking hours to load and now init.d doesn't exist. I need some help here. At least SSH still works so I don't have to walk across the room to enter a damn command. Wait a second, is it even supposed to exist? Because the last time I installed Arch I'm pretty sure it was there... I'm preparing for a shower of boxes, just in case :v:
[QUOTE=ze beaver;36007635]I decided to install Arch to replace CentOS on my silly server hidden under tons of computer parts today and I ran into a fuckload of problems. First, it started throwing errors around about how my disk can't be read, then GRUB takes fucking hours to load and now init.d doesn't exist. I need some help here. At least SSH still works so I don't have to walk across the room to enter a damn command. Wait a second, is it even supposed to exist? Because the last time I installed Arch I'm pretty sure it was there... I'm preparing for a shower of boxes, just in case :v:[/QUOTE] If there's no files on it, could try reinstalling arch
Nearly everything I've compiled, I see this: [code]checking whether build environment is sane... yes[/code] It makes me wonder how do you manage to get a non-sane build environment?
[QUOTE=BBgamer720;36006118]Ubuntu is great for beginners and professionals. It's fast...[/QUOTE] :v: It's hard to really get speed with that Unity crap. It's slower than Aero. Or it could be using [b]wubi.exe[/b] to install it that made it much slower.
[QUOTE=Stonecycle;36007921]:v: It's hard to really get speed with that Unity crap. It's slower than Aero. Or it could be using [b]wubi.exe[/b] to install it that made it much slower.[/QUOTE] Well there [B]IS[/B] also Xubuntu and Lubuntu. I just don't like how Xubuntu's stock interface layout is trying to mimic OSX.
I seem to still be having the same issue as before on a new arch install, Steam doesn't seem to want to launch. I installed tahoma through winetricks, and it launches to the login screen, after logging in, it shows the "connecting to account" dialog, and closes after a few seconds. Any other suggestions? [B][U]EDIT:[/B][/U] Is it normal to get quite a few of these lines in the terminal?[CODE]fixme:winhttp:WinHttpDetectAutoProxyConfigUrl discovery via DHCP not supported[/CODE] Also getting a huge chunk of opengl related errors.[CODE]err:wgl:is_extension_supported No OpenGL extensions found, check if your OpenGL setup is correct![/CODE] Yes I already know this is probably a noobish question
Well, I found the problem with desura not working. It has to do with an old bug in chromium which I assume was fixed a long time ago, but since desura relies on the version with that bug, it's not possible to compile a newer version of libcef.so without desura giving errors. The only real solutions I can see is if someone finds a way to get a libcef.so without SIGILL/incompatibility issues or if desura updates to a more recent version of cef (which I'm guessing isn't all that easy to do since they say they can't really fix it). I basically tried compiling libcef with the newest version of chromium (compiled fine, but segfaulted when desura logged in), the version that desura uses (that SIGILL error) and compiling regular desurium (SIGILL error). [editline]18th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Dragonflare;36008281] Is it normal to get quite a few "fixme:winhttp:WinHttpDetectAutoProxyConfigUrl discovery via DHCP not supported" lines in the terminal? [/QUOTE] It's normal, I get a lot of various "fixme" messages when running steam.
[QUOTE=Dragonflare;36008281]Also getting a huge chunk of opengl related errors.[CODE]err:wgl:is_extension_supported No OpenGL extensions found, check if your OpenGL setup is correct![/CODE] Yes I already know this is probably a noobish question[/QUOTE] To fix the opengl problems you need to install one of these packages depending on what videocard/drivers you have. intel-dri nouveau-dri ati-dri nvidia-utils You probably want the 32 bit versions as well. lib32-intel-dri lib32-nouveau-dri ati-dri lib32-nvidia-utils
[QUOTE=Naelstrom;36009266]To fix the opengl problems you need to install one of these packages depending on what videocard/drivers you have. intel-dri nouveau-dri ati-dri nvidia-utils You probably want the 32 bit versions as well. lib32-intel-dri lib32-nouveau-dri ati-dri lib32-nvidia-utils[/QUOTE] Installed both 64 and 32 bit versions of the ATI drivers, but I'm still getting a ton of OpenGL errors. And now instead of exiting after the login dialog, the client just crashes. Here is the full terminal read out: [CODE]fixme:advapi:EventRegister {47a9201e-73b0-42ce-9821-7e134361bc6f}, 0x3f0050c0, 0x3f036b20, 0x3f036b18 fixme:advapi:EventRegister {58a9201e-73b0-42ce-9821-7e134361bc70}, 0x3f0050c0, 0x3f036b58, 0x3f036b50 fixme:advapi:EventRegister {3fa9201e-73b0-43fe-9821-7e145359bc6f}, 0x3f0050c0, 0x3f036ae8, 0x3f036ae0 fixme:advapi:EventRegister {1432afee-73b0-42ce-9821-7e134361b433}, 0x3f0050c0, 0x3f036b90, 0x3f036b88 fixme:advapi:EventRegister {4372afee-73b0-42ce-9821-7e134361b519}, 0x3f0050c0, 0x3f036bc8, 0x3f036bc0 fixme:process:SetProcessShutdownParameters (00000100, 00000000): partial stub. err:wgl:is_extension_supported No OpenGL extensions found, check if your OpenGL setup is correct! err:wgl:is_extension_supported No OpenGL extensions found, check if your OpenGL setup is correct! err:wgl:is_extension_supported No OpenGL extensions found, check if your OpenGL setup is correct! err:wgl:is_extension_supported No OpenGL extensions found, check if your OpenGL setup is correct! fixme:iphlpapi:NotifyAddrChange (Handle 0x453d92c, overlapped 0x4353ba0): stub fixme:winsock:WSALookupServiceBeginW (0x453da2c 0x00000ff0 0x453da74) Stub! [0518/093550:ERROR:network_change_notifier_win.cc(111)] WSALookupServiceBegin failed with: 8 fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7e566140 "../../../wine/dlls/winex11.drv/x11drv_main.c: X11DRV_CritSection" wait timed out in thread 0028, blocked by 0043, retrying (60 sec) err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7e566140 "../../../wine/dlls/winex11.drv/x11drv_main.c: X11DRV_CritSection" wait timed out in thread 0034, blocked by 0043, retrying (60 sec) fixme:advapi:EventRegister {47a9201e-73b0-42ce-9821-7e134361bc6f}, 0x3f0050c0, 0x3f036b20, 0x3f036b18 fixme:advapi:EventRegister {58a9201e-73b0-42ce-9821-7e134361bc70}, 0x3f0050c0, 0x3f036b58, 0x3f036b50 fixme:advapi:EventRegister {3fa9201e-73b0-43fe-9821-7e145359bc6f}, 0x3f0050c0, 0x3f036ae8, 0x3f036ae0 fixme:advapi:EventRegister {1432afee-73b0-42ce-9821-7e134361b433}, 0x3f0050c0, 0x3f036b90, 0x3f036b88 fixme:advapi:EventRegister {4372afee-73b0-42ce-9821-7e134361b519}, 0x3f0050c0, 0x3f036bc8, 0x3f036bc0 fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation (nil) 1 (nil) 0 fixme:dbghelp:elf_search_auxv can't find symbol in module fixme:dbghelp:elf_search_auxv can't find symbol in module fixme:dbghelp:elf_search_auxv can't find symbol in module wine: Critical section 7e566140 wait failed at address 0x7bc369a2 (thread 0028), starting debugger... Unhandled exception: wait failed on critical section 0x7e566140 in 32-bit code (0x7bc369a2). err:seh:raise_exception Unhandled exception code c0000194 flags 0 addr 0x7bc369a2 [brandon@Zephyr Steam]$ Process of pid=0044 has terminated No process loaded, cannot execute 'echo Modules:' Cannot get info on module while no process is loaded No process loaded, cannot execute 'echo Threads:' process tid prio (all id:s are in hex) 0000000e services.exe 0000001f 0 0000001e 0 00000015 0 00000010 0 0000000f 0 00000012 winedevice.exe 0000001c 0 00000019 0 00000014 0 00000013 0 0000001a plugplay.exe 00000020 0 0000001d 0 0000001b 0 00000042 explorer.exe 00000047 0 0000003e steamerrorreporter.exe 00000040 0 0000003f 0 winedbg: Internal crash at 0x7ef7a14e fixme:advapi:EventUnregister deadbeef: stub fixme:advapi:EventUnregister deadbeef: stub fixme:advapi:EventUnregister deadbeef: stub fixme:advapi:EventUnregister deadbeef: stub fixme:advapi:EventUnregister deadbeef: stub[/CODE] (removed a 100+ line segment of the same OpenGL errors)
[QUOTE=Dragonflare;36009460]Installed both 64 and 32 bit versions of the ATI drivers, but I'm still getting a ton of OpenGL errors.[/QUOTE] Are you using the open-source ATI drivers or catalyst? The mesa drivers for each are a little different; for catalyst the mesa drivers come in catalyst-utils or lib32-catalyst-utils. While the opensource one uses ati-dri and lib32-ati-dri. Ensure you have mesa installed as well, it's required for 3d support regardless of video drivers.
[QUOTE=Naelstrom;36009936]Are you using the open-source ATI drivers or catalyst? The mesa drivers for each are a little different; for catalyst the mesa drivers come in catalyst-utils or lib32-catalyst-utils. While the opensource one uses ati-dri and lib32-ati-dri. Ensure you have mesa installed as well, it's required for 3d support regardless of video drivers.[/QUOTE] I am using the open-source drivers, and I do have mesa installed.
[QUOTE=Dragonflare;36009976]I am using the open-source drivers, and I do have mesa installed.[/QUOTE] You still haven't confirmed if you have installed the -dri package, but that's what solved it for me. Not sure what to do if that doesn't work.
[QUOTE=Dragonflare;36009976]I am using the open-source drivers, and I do have mesa installed.[/QUOTE] While I'm probably wrong in doing this, but can you install mesa-demos and give us the output of glxinfo? should be able to find something like this in it: [code]OpenGL vendor string: X.Org OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780 OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2 [/code]
[QUOTE=Naelstrom;36010097]You still haven't confirmed if you have installed the -dri package, but that's what solved it for me. Not sure what to do if that doesn't work.[/QUOTE] Sorry if i was unclear, I do have the -dri packages installed. [QUOTE=Lyoko774;36010124]While I'm probably wrong in doing this, but can you install mesa-demos and give us the output of glxinfo? should be able to find something like this in it: [code]OpenGL vendor string: X.Org OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780 OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2 [/code][/QUOTE] This is the output I have that is similar to what you posted. [CODE]OpenGL vendor string: X.Org OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CAYMAN OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2 [/CODE]
Okay, I've determined that both those OpenGL errors and the DHCP errors are normal. Steam is working fine for me on Arch Linux 32-bit with ati-dri/xf86-video-ati. I installed Steam through winetricks. Have you tried setting a 32-bit wine prefix if you're using a 64-bit Arch install? I've read things about wine's 64-bit support being buggy at best.
[QUOTE=Lyoko774;36010232]Okay, I've determined that both those OpenGL errors and the DHCP errors are normal. Steam is working fine for me on Arch Linux 32-bit with ati-dri/xf86-video-ati. I installed Steam through winetricks. Have you tried setting a 32-bit wine prefix if you're using a 64-bit Arch install? I've read things about wine's 64-bit support being buggy at best.[/QUOTE] I am on a 64-bit install and yes I have tried a 32 bit prefix, I created a new one to be sure I didn't just do something wrong, and I am still getting the exception rather than the dialog just closing. The terminal output is still the same as before. I'm very glad my patience is high today.
[QUOTE=Dragonflare;36010382]I am on a 64-bit install and yes I have tried a 32 bit prefix, I created a new one to be sure I didn't just do something wrong, and I am still getting the exception rather than the dialog just closing. The terminal output is still the same as before. I'm very glad my patience is high today.[/QUOTE] Hrm, that's very odd. I wish I could help more but I don't have a 64-bit arch box handy right now :( Sorry.
[QUOTE=Lyoko774;36010540]Hrm, that's very odd. I wish I could help more but I don't have a 64-bit arch box handy right now :( Sorry.[/QUOTE] Oh well, you put in the effort, and I greatly appreciate it. I just have to do some deeper searching to get this exception figured out.
[QUOTE=Dragonflare;36010646]Oh well, you put in the effort, and I greatly appreciate it. I just have to do some deeper searching to get this exception figured out.[/QUOTE] I added you on steam, do you mind doing a teamviewer session? I've conquered this bug several times, but every time I just tinkered. If you're on linux and you don't want to get steam working, you can chat with me on gmail (naelstrof@gmail.com).
I may have found a way to fix the exception I receive when logging in, there is 1 page I found on the Arch forums in which a user was having the same problem, only he was using the proprietary driver. I am about to attempt to install the proprietary driver to see if that fixes anything, even though I wanted to avoid it at all costs. Wish me luck gentlemen.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;36007635]I decided to install Arch to replace CentOS on my silly server hidden under tons of computer parts today and I ran into a fuckload of problems. First, it started throwing errors around about how my disk can't be read, then GRUB takes fucking hours to load and now init.d doesn't exist. I need some help here. At least SSH still works so I don't have to walk across the room to enter a damn command. Wait a second, is it even supposed to exist? Because the last time I installed Arch I'm pretty sure it was there... I'm preparing for a shower of boxes, just in case :v:[/QUOTE] It looks like you might have a hard driver / file system problem. Also, init.d doens't exist on Arch (it's rc.d).
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