• Finally... Solid evidence emerges about Steam for Linux!
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Heres a crappy quality video posted on Phoronix [video=youtube;t_sLKHOHtug]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_sLKHOHtug&feature=player_embedded[/video] And the article it was posted in: [url]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5MjQ[/url]
The day Steam for Linux is released is the day I move to Linux and never look back. Really excited.
I'll move to it on my netbook fulltime since the only games I'd be playing on the go would be Source games. Otherwise, I'd still keep Windows on my desktop for other games + Adobe Suite.
OH MY FUCKING GOD BRB DOWNLOADING LINUX
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;35718737]The source of that news is still the phoronix article. It's not more confirmed than it was before. But great to see the news spreading nonetheless.[/QUOTE] Seems like you won't be happy until Gabe Newell flies down to your house and tells you personally, so why even care?
[QUOTE=gparent;35731627]Seems like you won't be happy until Gabe Newell flies down to your house and tells you personally, so why even care?[/QUOTE] I think you got me all wrong. I'm very excited that this is happening, and I'll be among the first to delete my Windows partition permanently once this is released as a public beta (or likewise). What I meant was, that another article covering the phoronix article, doesn't confirm it any more than the phoronix article already had. I did not mean that it wasn't confirmed.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;35731690]I think you got me all wrong. I'm very excited that this is happening, and I'll be among the first to delete my Windows partition permanently once this is released as a public beta (or likewise). What I meant was, that another article covering the phoronix article, doesn't confirm it any more than the phoronix article already had. I did not mean that it wasn't confirmed.[/QUOTE] You're right, I got you all wrong and I get your (valid) point :) My bad mate.
I want to believe, I really do. But the only evidence outside of Phoronix that I can find is a screenshot of an email of a guy saying that they have L4D2 running on Linux, Gabe working with Linux guys and Gabe asking for drivers. From this I can deduce that they may be testing to see if it's viable. Let's add the Phoronix stuff. Photos of L4D2 on Ubuntu, shaking and blurry cam footage of L4D2 on Linux. I won't accept a story about Gabe hating Windows, that doesn't even have quotes as evidence. [B]Where the fuck is the evidence for Steam coming to Linux?[/B] There's only L4D2 stuff, and if you extrapolate from that, source engine. On top of that, [b]Valve hasn't confirmed anything officially[/b]. They may give up on porting it. Look at UT3.
[QUOTE=Jookia;35707837]I'd love to think Gabe suddenly grew a neckbeard and went Linux, but that's exactly what I want to hear. Unforunately, there's no proof.[/QUOTE] He actually did go full neckbeard. I guess he was trying to tell us the port was underway back in 19 February: [img]http://hw1.pa-cdn.com/par/img/editorial/gabe_alt.jpg[/img] Anyway, I'm [i]really[/i] excited about this port, even though my Linux machine is a crappy, small laptop, since it will pressure AMD and Nvidia to produce proper OpenGL drivers and eventually lead to greater use of OpenGL in games.
In preparation of the Linux Steam Client I have begun choosing a distro to use as my Main OS on my PC. Cant pick between Ubuntu, Linut Mint and Arch.
[QUOTE=TheCreeper;35745771]In preparation of the Linux Steam Client I have begun choosing a distro to use as my Main OS on my PC. Cant pick between Ubuntu, Linut Mint and Arch.[/QUOTE] You've got plenty of time, so go with Arch and get a AUR helper installed too, so you have access to a shitload of awesome software too. Then get crackin'!
[url]http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/04/canonical-in-touch-with-valve-to-ensure.html#more[/url] Long story short, the Ubuntu devs are in touch with Valve's [I]Steam for Linux[/I] devs to ensure Steam will install and work smoothly on Ubuntu 12.04 (and probably also it's derivatives).
[B]Jookia... For the LAST TIME:[/B] Left 4 Dead requires the Source Engine. Valve's Source games are only distributed WITH STEAM. Steam MUST come to Linux for Left 4 Dead to be playable on Linux, from a consumer standpoint. This shit is common sense, now please stop trolling this thread.
[QUOTE=P320;35758847][B]Jookia... For the LAST TIME:[/B] Left 4 Dead requires the Source Engine. [b]Valve's Source games are only distributed WITH STEAM. Steam MUST come to Linux for Left 4 Dead to be playable on Linux, from a consumer standpoint.[/b] This shit is common sense, now please stop trolling this thread.[/QUOTE] There's no [b]distribution[/b] happening. It's all internal. Make of it what you want, I'm just looking at the evidence, and there's no Steam client in sight.
Cut that shit off. If you two are the ONLY people who want to spew useless crap that will do nothing else than piss off others, then please, take it to PM's. And about the Steam for Linux client...yeah, Hot Stuff...
Don't let evidence get in the way of wishful thinking. I'm out.
Jookia's been using Linux too long.
[QUOTE=Jookia;35768834]Don't let evidence get in the way of wishful thinking. I'm out.[/QUOTE] Where'd you get that tinfoil hat of yours?
[QUOTE=Van-man;35771239]Where'd you get that tinfoil hat of yours?[/QUOTE] probably /g/ it has warehouses full of tinfoil hats
Why would they port L4D2 but not port a simple GUI app like Steam? You'd think Steam would be the easy part.
I can see it now... "hl2_linux has encountered an error and needs to close." :v:
Since Linux's hardware is even more diverse than mac, I bet there will be an influx of beta testers, which would probably mean a longer release date, but with less bugs.
[QUOTE=P320;35788935]I can see it now... "hl2_linux has encountered an error and needs to close." :v:[/QUOTE] It would probably be "hl2_linux: Segmentation fault"
[QUOTE=Mister Scurvy;35789805]Since Linux's hardware is even more diverse than mac[/QUOTE] linux ships with hardware? I think you mean, it runs on the same range of hardware as windows.
[QUOTE=Jookia;35767996]There's no [b]distribution[/b] happening. It's all internal. Make of it what you want, I'm just looking at the evidence, and there's no Steam client in sight.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between looking at evidence and obsessing over it while ignoring common sense. Why the fuck would they work on L4D2 for Linux and then just drop it? They HAVE to eventually write the Steam client for Linux if they want to distribute any game on it, so unless they're rewriting L4D2 for kicks and giggles, there's a pretty damn good chance we'll get both Source Engine and Steam ported to Linux. Stop looking at evidence and look at the probable cause for christ's sake.
If they also port the Source SDK (Hammer, Model Viewer, etc.) to Linux, I will tell Windows to fuck off forever. Even if they don't, VirtualBox 3D acceleration is so good that I can just run a Windows XP VM to do all of my mapping/modelling and use a shared folder to move it over.
[QUOTE=gparent;35791353]There's a difference between looking at evidence and obsessing over it while ignoring common sense. Why the fuck would they work on L4D2 for Linux and then just drop it? They HAVE to eventually write the Steam client for Linux if they want to distribute any game on it, so unless they're rewriting L4D2 for kicks and giggles, there's a pretty damn good chance we'll get both Source Engine and Steam ported to Linux. Stop looking at evidence and look at the probable cause for christ's sake.[/QUOTE] As far as we all know, it's a proof of concept demo to see if it's feasible. Gabe's need for Linux driver devs kind of points that it may not be feasible. Why port Steam before knowing if the games it's feasible? I haven't seen any evidence for Steam running, not even in the Phoronix shots and video.
[QUOTE=Jookia;35793866]As far as we all know, it's a proof of concept demo to see if it's feasible. Gabe's need for Linux driver devs kind of points that it may not be feasible. Why port Steam before knowing if it's feasible?[/QUOTE] Why spend shitloads of money getting Linux drivers worked out, pulling Linux journalists in to write articles and these kind of things, just to see if it's feasible? You're ignoring everything now. There's no need to do all this just to see if something is "feasible" on Linux. That's bullshit and you know it.
[QUOTE=Jookia;35793866]As far as we all know, it's a proof of concept demo to see if it's feasible. Gabe's need for Linux driver devs kind of points that it may not be feasible. Why port Steam before knowing if the games it's feasible? I haven't seen any evidence for Steam running, not even in the Phoronix shots and video.[/QUOTE] You don't hire kernel devs just to see if it's feasible though.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;35793898]Why spend shitloads of money getting Linux drivers worked out, pulling Linux journalists in to write articles and these kind of things, just to see if it's feasible? You're ignoring everything now. There's no need to do all this just to see if something is "feasible" on Linux.[/QUOTE] That's a good point, it would be a waste of resources. But still, my point is that the only evidence that Steam itself is on Linux is speculation. I've even been able to launch L4D2 without Steam on Windows to bypass my country's sensors.
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