• A computer idiot needs help building a PC
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Hey, (FYI: This build is pretty much a community build, you guys will control how this turns out, for the most part) I don't know very much at all about PC building, and what to purchase. My budget is 1500, I already have a mouse/keyboard/monitor/ speakers, so I really want to focus in on the internals. I decided to do the childish thing, which is to pick a couple of things (chassis, in this case) ranging from 50 to 150 dollars, and have a look I like. I don't know how much I should be paying for a chassis, but the most expensive one I like as it has a lot of fans. Here's what I have picked out: My Pick: Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043[/url] Recommended: COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case (ADT) [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3640869&SID=skim629X1198[/url] COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black RC-932-KWN3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Side window (ADT/Finley) [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119230&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3640869&SID=skim629X1198[/url] Other Parts: (all by ADT) i5 750/760 or i7 870 Akasa Freedom Tower CPU Cooler or CoolerMaster Hyper 212 + CPU Cooler MSI P55-GD65 Socket 1156 Motherboard 4 GB of RAM DDR3 1333Mhz (From Corsair, G.Skill, Crucial, Kingston) Nvidia GTX 470 or GTX 480 Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB or 1TB 750W PSU Antec TruePower/Corsair HX/Seasonic X-Series (Finley) Optical Drive:ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204[/url] Case:COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black RC-932-KWN3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Side window [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119230[/url] HDD:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185[/url] GPU (x2): GIGABYTE GV-N470D5-13I-B GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125320[/url] PSU:CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010[/url] RAM:CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260[/url] Motherboard:MSI P55A-GD55 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130298[/url] CPU:Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215[/url] SSD:OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX30GXXX 2.5" 30GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227393[/url] Extra info: Definitely running Windows 7 64bit premium, I don't believe I need ultimate. Also, I would like to be able to run crazy high graphics, like Crysis on full with no lag. (my bro's alienware can do it, then hopefully a custom build can do even better) My wish is to keep this computer running for 4-5 years, and that's when I'll either build again or just keep upgrading the same computer. Also, if it happens to make ANY difference at all, I will be using Norton 360. I kind of want to try ESET, because I see it in all my gaming magazines. Anyone have any experience with it? Thanks for any help you can provide, sorry for the long thread!
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119230[/url] (HAF 932) [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225[/url] (HAF X) Much better than NZXT, RAIDMAW, XCLIO, Brodway ones. [editline]09:06PM[/editline] For your build: i5 750/760 or i7 870 Akasa Freedom Tower CPU Cooler or CoolerMaster Hyper 212 + CPU Cooler MSI P55-GD65 Socket 1156 Motherboard 4 GB of RAM DDR3 1333Mhz (From Corsair, G.Skill, Crucial, Kingston) Nvidia GTX 470 or GTX 480 Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB or 1TB 750W PSU Antec TruePower/Corsair HX/Seasonic X-Series
[QUOTE=ADT;25070245][url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119230[/url] (HAF 932) [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225[/url] (HAF X) Much better than NZXT, RAIDMAW, XCLIO, Brodway ones. [editline]09:06PM[/editline] For your build: i5 750/760 or i7 870 Akasa Freedom Tower CPU Cooler or CoolerMaster Hyper 212 + CPU Cooler MSI P55-GD65 Socket 1156 Motherboard 4 GB of RAM DDR3 1333Mhz (From Corsair, G.Skill, Crucial, Kingston) Nvidia GTX 470 or GTX 480 Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB or 1TB 750W PSU Antec TruePower/Corsair HX/Seasonic X-Series[/QUOTE] Wow dude thanks for helping so much! I'm going to put that in main post, plus the two cases you linked and the antec one as what I'm interested in. I guess I'll let the community decide how my build goes.
This is probably the best use of $1500 Optical Drive:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204[/url] Case:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119230[/url] HDD:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185[/url] GPU (x2):[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125320[/url] PSU:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010[/url] RAM:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260[/url] Motherboard:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130298[/url] CPU:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215[/url] SSD:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227393[/url] $1499
[QUOTE=FINLEY;25070732]This is probably the best use of $1500 Optical Drive:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204[/url] Case:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119230[/url] HDD:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185[/url] GPU (x2):[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125320[/url] PSU:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010[/url] RAM:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260[/url] Motherboard:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130298[/url] CPU:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215[/url] SSD:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227393[/url] $1499[/QUOTE] Well played
[QUOTE=FINLEY;25070732]This is probably the best use of $1500 Optical Drive:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204[/url] Case:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119230[/url] HDD:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185[/url] GPU (x2):[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125320[/url] PSU:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010[/url] RAM:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260[/url] Motherboard:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130298[/url] CPU:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215[/url] SSD:[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227393[/url] $1499[/QUOTE] Well played, indeed. I was hoping to have some extra money for the Windows 7 OS, but again that was pretty damn great of a setup for 1499. edit: Just to verify, this is the same case as you/ADT liked, correct? (just with the blue lights) [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119213&cm_re=cooler_master_haf_932-_-11-119-213-_-Product[/url]
As for your antiviruses (since you mentionned Norton 360 in your post), you should download Microsoft Security Essentials once you will get your computer. Maybe not the best, but polyvalent on all points and completely free. [editline]09:28PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Peter Griffin;25070915] edit: Just to verify, this is the same case as you/ADT liked, correct? (just with the blue lights) [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119213&cm_re=cooler_master_haf_932-_-11-119-213-_-Product[/url][/QUOTE] yup [editline]09:29PM[/editline] Didn't know this blue lights version existed, though
[QUOTE=ADT;25071035]As for your antiviruses (since you mentionned Norton 360 in your post), you should download Microsoft Security Essentials once you will get your computer. Maybe not the best, but polyvalent on all points and completely free. [editline]09:28PM[/editline] yup[/QUOTE] Do you mean instead of Norton 360 or with Norton 360? My dad has a copy or two left of Norton 360, so I'm covered on that point. (well, last time I checked he had at least one copy)
instead of, norton is shit if you wanted to free up some cash for 7 you could always get a cheaper case and [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003&Tpk=xfx%20750w[/url] instead or the corsair
Or knock off the SSD
[QUOTE=reapaninja;25071263]instead of, norton is shit if you wanted to free up some cash for 7 you could always get a cheaper case and [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003&Tpk=xfx%20750w[/url] instead or the corsair[/QUOTE] Nah Just knock off the SSD, since this component is clearly optional
I confirmed I have Norton, so I'd rather stick with it. (it's been great for me, I've been using it for a while) I'll knock off the SSD, as I do need to free up some cash as I still have to buy the OS, which will most likely cost 150-200 dollars, plus however much getting someone to assemble it will cost, which I have no clue how much that is. Just wondering, is watercooling even a possible idea? I remember having a computer with tons of fans, and it was annoying as hell because of how loud the fans are.
Just remember to take Seven on 64bits (and if possible in OEM) A good CPU cooler (like Akasa Freedom Tower and CM Hyper 212+) and a good airflow case (like HAF 932) is a better choice, a lot cheaper, and less difficult to install, than a whole watercooling setup.
Ah, that's not included in Finley's price, how much do you think the set up you made will cost ADT? Also I was planning on getting it 64 bits, what do you mean if possible OEM? edit; there IS a CD slot with the case, or somewhere in my list correct?
[QUOTE=Peter Griffin;25071783]I confirmed I have Norton, so I'd rather stick with it. (it's been great for me, I've been using it for a while) I'll knock off the SSD, as I do need to free up some cash as I still have to buy the OS, which will most likely cost 150-200 dollars, plus however much getting someone to assemble it will cost, which I have no clue how much that is. Just wondering, is watercooling even a possible idea? I remember having a computer with tons of fans, and it was annoying as hell because of how loud the fans are.[/QUOTE] norton is worse than the standard free alternatives like MSE or Avast putting the build together is easy, it's just plugging cables in and using a screwdriver, check [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=599194[/url] for some guides [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754&cm_re=home_premium_64-_-32-116-754-_-Product[/url] only $99, you don't need any more watercooling still uses fans and you still need airflow through your case for parts you can't really watercool like hard drives, it's more of an aesthetic thing if the noise bothers you there's always the option of buying quieter fans, I don't know how noisy the HAFs are but I'm pretty sure they're fairly loud
What do you mean, the watercooling stuff? Because this shit is expensive as fuck, you know [editline]10:11PM[/editline] Thread on Antiviruses => [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=948262&highlight=Antiviruses[/url]
Wow, the OEM is only 99 dollars? Does that have things like Microsoft word and things like that? Also ADT those fans are quiet, correct?
No it doesn't have Microsoft Word. No OS does, that's the Office Suite, which is ridiculously overpriced. OpenOffice.org is free and does the same thing. I'm not sure what fans you were asking about but a general rule I've always heard is the bigger the fan, the less it needs to spin to create airflow, smaller fans are generally more noisy and you can read dB ratings if you're that picky about it. The thing with OEM is, you may or may not have a problem if your motherboard dies and you need to switch parts. It locks itself to one computer from what I've always heard, not sure how reliable that is though.
[QUOTE=Peter Griffin;25072400]Wow, the OEM is only 99 dollars? Does that have things like Microsoft word and things like that? Also ADT those fans are quiet, correct?[/QUOTE] Doesn't have Microsoft word, but spare some money and download Open Office, it's free. Also for antivirus, don't go Norton, just download Microsoft Security Essentials or Avast!, which are much better (free) alternatives.
[QUOTE=DaDillsta;25072478]No it doesn't have Microsoft Word. No OS does, that's the Office Suite, which is ridiculously overpriced. OpenOffice.org is free and does the same thing. I'm not sure what fans you were asking about but a general rule I've always heard is the bigger the fan, the less it needs to spin to create airflow, smaller fans are generally more noisy and you can read dB ratings if you're that picky about it. The thing with OEM is, you may or may not have a problem if your motherboard dies and you need to switch parts. It locks itself to one computer from what I've always heard, not sure how reliable that is though.[/QUOTE] I don't mind about having to re-purchase, I'm hoping the motherboard is working for long enough to not worry. The fans I was talking about: Akasa Freedom Tower CPU Cooler or CoolerMaster Hyper 212 + CPU Cooler Also, after reading the Antiviruses and You thread, the guy who wrote it wrote "Now, Norton... Trust me, it's not the shitware it used to be. It's easily one of the lightest suites I've used, and what gave it a perfect score in my testing was its reputation system. Basically, unknown programs aren't allowed to run. It's kind of like Comodo's system, but works more in the cloud and doesn't even allow the program to be executed to try it out. It's a good system, nonetheless. Still, there's no point paying for this suite when free programs provide the same protection." And since I already have it, I might as well use it. Now is it possible to use it in addition to Comodo?
[QUOTE=Peter Griffin;25072814]I don't mind about having to re-purchase, I'm hoping the motherboard is working for long enough to not worry. The fans I was talking about: Akasa Freedom Tower CPU Cooler or CoolerMaster Hyper 212 + CPU Cooler Also, after reading the Antiviruses and You thread, the guy who wrote it wrote "Now, Norton... Trust me, it's not the shitware it used to be. It's easily one of the lightest suites I've used, and what gave it a perfect score in my testing was its reputation system. Basically, unknown programs aren't allowed to run. It's kind of like Comodo's system, but works more in the cloud and doesn't even allow the program to be executed to try it out. It's a good system, nonetheless. Still, there's no point paying for this suite when free programs provide the same protection." And since I already have it, I might as well use it. Now is it possible to use it in addition to Comodo?[/QUOTE] Norton got a worser reputation than Small Pox (varilola Major), and that says a good deal. Just use something else, even though you got it.
[QUOTE=Peter Griffin;25072814]The fans I was talking about: Akasa Freedom Tower CPU Cooler or CoolerMaster Hyper 212 + CPU Cooler[/QUOTE] I guarantee these fans are quiet, especially the Akasa one (since I have this one), but only if you don't put a too high voltage on it (Must be under 12V). Otherwise, on 12V voltage, they are loud with stock fans.
You don't really need an after market CPU cooler unless you're planning a large overclock
[QUOTE=ADT;25073167]I guarantee these fans are quiet, especially the Akasa one (since I have this one), but only if you don't put a too high voltage on it (Must be under 12V). Otherwise, on 12V voltage, they are loud with stock fans.[/QUOTE] Ah, I'm not sure what the powersource will be, I feel like it will be a bit higher voltage because of the bluelight version. Also, ADT what do you think about norton?
Norton sucks. It pales in comparison to even some free AV's, get over it.
[QUOTE=Peter Griffin;25073289]Ah, I'm not sure what the powersource will be, I feel like it will be a bit higher voltage because of the bluelight version. Also, ADT what do you think about norton?[/QUOTE] Norton is not really good, Avast! neither. The best you can have, though, is Microsoft Security Essential.
[QUOTE=ADT;25073522]Norton is not really good, Avast! neither. The best you can have, though, is Microsoft Security Essential.[/QUOTE] Okay, just wondering what do you guys think about Comodo?
Comodo is really good as firewall (free trial version only)
Okay, I have a bit different of a feeling about Norton, as it just caught a trojan attempting to get onto my comp. I mean, it's free, so I'll use it anyways in addition to Comodo. (My dad probably will only let me use norton, anyways) Now, my next part in this is finding a good, under 12v power source, which also needs to be able to keep the blue lights on the case lit.
Yeah, blue LED's, real power-hogs :rolleyes: And I suppose you mean a powersupply, 'cause a a power source would be something like a solar panel.
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