• Retrocomputing Megathread
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZNvxB.png[/IMG] [i]"Do you pine for the days when men were men and wrote their own device drivers?"[/i] - Linus Torvalds Welcome to the Retrocomputing Megathread. [release] [b]What is retrocomputing?[/b] In short, retrocomputing is the hobby of collecting and using old computers. Most frequently collected are machines from the 80s and early 90s, including computers made by Commodore, Kaypro, Tandy, Acorn, IBM, and early Apples. My definition of "retrocomputing" is broader than most's, though, so I count basically anything pre-2000 or that is not in production anymore (like PowerPC Macs) as a retrocomputer. [/release] [release] [b]Why would you want to do that?[/b] It's fun. Old computers typically have a variety of idiosyncracies, different processor architectures, awesome communities (yes, even in 2011), and "personality". Programming an old machine is a great way to learn the basics of assembly language, and they are certainly a challenge to program, given the comparatively small amounts of memory and slow processing speeds that they possess. [/release] [release] [b]How do I get started?[/b] Well, you could check eBay, craigslist, flea markets, thrift stores, or your closet for older systems. There are also dedicated trading sites for retrocomputing enthusiasts, such as AmiBay. If one cannot afford this, one could always emulate an older system. [/release] [release] [b]What do you have?[/b] My own personal collection includes a Commodore 128, a Commodore Amiga 1000, a 486 machine from 1991, and an Apple eMac (relatively new, but one of the last PowerPC Macs). Here is my Commodore 128. It's an interesting machine, basically a souped-up C64 with extra RAM. One interesting thing about it is that it has three modes: C128 mode, C64 mode, and CP/M mode. It was actually built with two processors inside it: a Zilog Z80 to run CP/M, and an 8502 that runs at different speeds depending on if it is in C64 or C128 FAST mode. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/PcTyq.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0rLa2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qmJKc.jpg[/IMG] Pictured below is my Commodore Amiga 1000. The first Amiga model produced, it had 256K of RAM (512K w/a front panel upgrade, which mine has), and was simply and awesome machine. It had a true multitasking operating system, high-color modes, sampled sound, and a 7MHz 68000 processor. It was years ahead of its time. [img]http://i.imgur.com/43YjQ.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/F9WRS.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/LfYrO.jpg[/img] Here's my 486, which was actually my first computer (in 1996). Had a VGA card, 33MHz 486 clone, 8MB of RAM, and a Sound Blaster 16 sound card. [img]http://imgur.com/nm1n3.jpg[/img] [img]http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/RepoOne/computer.jpg[/img] [img]http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/RepoOne/ATTmonitor.jpg[/img] [/release] [release] [b]Do other people actually do this?[/b] Yep. The Commodore machines have absolutely massive communities, and new hardware and software is still being developed. The Amiga is a great example of this. Entirely new Amiga systems are being made, such as the Natami and AmigaOne X1000. Another person created an Amiga 500 on an FPGA, called the Minimig. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwP0t0kakW0[/media] The Commodore 64 still has some new things being developed for it, one of which is called the SuperCPU, which is an accelerator that allows the machine to do a lot more than it originally could. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS8LAQbR-DY&feature=related[/media] I don't know much about the Atari, Apple, or Acorn communities, but I'm sure they are out there. [/release] [release] [b]Any more cool videos?[/b] Sure. Commodore 64 games: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY2gK1MPgh8[/media] Amiga games: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUoJBerFDsA[/media] A completely souped-up Amiga 1200 running Quake 2: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHWlIgvHsaE[/media] Commodore 64 music: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5_ZiNXsA5c[/media] Amiga music: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuXVy6qXyuI[/media] [/release]
i have an old laptop(early 1990's), but i dont know what its called, ill have to go check.
Oh Man I love RetroComputers .
Gotta love the Model M [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/98757254557654376544.png[/img] Also, I want [b]ALL[/b] of your keyboards
I wouldn't mind having a retro computer, they're pretty awesome.
Did someone say my name? [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/emoicons/Takuya_rating.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073279.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073278.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073269.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/P8022886.jpg[/IMG]
thats... horrible really thats not even a cool hobby thats just horrible (not retrocomputing, that shit is awesome. just how much shit the above poster accumulated)
[QUOTE=MIPS;27363173]Did someone say my name? [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/emoicons/Takuya_rating.png[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073279.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073278.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073269.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/P8022886.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] What the christ?
[QUOTE=MIPS;27363173]Did someone say my name? [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/emoicons/Takuya_rating.png[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073279.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073278.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073269.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/P8022886.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] How the hell did you get all of that stuff?
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/85246444785785.png[/img] You Sir are a god among men
Man, those comodorre's, I still have two of them. They're great but SLOW AS HELL, specially whenyou're using a tape for it and it fails to read. :v:
Been doing this for a while, It's a fun hobby but as MIPS (Pentium) knows it's very storage consuming so I don't have much. My favourite of my collection however is my Commodore 64, I'm currently trying to get my hand on an Apple II, that shit was cash then when I get an Apple II I'll try to start getting some old generic stuff, You know shit that ran games on 5 5'1/2'' floppys?
I must know where the music came from in that SuperCPU Kicks demo. IT'S AMAZING AND SCREAMS 80'S. MUST HAAAAAAAVE
Yes, your computers are powerful and all BUT CAN THEY RUN DOOM? [sp]:V[/sp]
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;27370006]Yes, your computers are powerful and all BUT CAN THEY RUN DOOM? [sp]:V[/sp][/QUOTE] No, Software incompatability :v:
I have a Commodore 64, but it's so dirty the keys only register half the time. :frown:
[QUOTE=MIPS;27363173]Did someone say my name? [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/emoicons/Takuya_rating.png[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073279.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073278.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073269.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/P8022886.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I still want that SGI Onyx box. same with the SGI Granite and that 24" Trinitron you've got
I used to have a 1994 PowerBook 150 with an Asante EN/SC Mini, though I purged a lot of stuff a few weeks ago. I wasn't using it and I didn't want to go through the trouble of selling it, so I dropped it off at Value Village with a bunch of other crap. It's sad to see it go, but I don't miss it.
I have a commodore VIC-20, but the rf modulator seems to be broken or something because I can't get a picture.
I also have an eMac. In my shed we have a Commodore 64(Step dad's first computer, apparently) and some kind of computer that starts with a key...
Leninade?
I have three iMac G3's. One first generation Bondi Blue one running System 8.5, and two of the last ones they made, with the slot loading CD drives, one Indigo Blue, one that pink color. They run OS 9.2 and the first public version of OS X. :h:
I trashed all the old stuff I had, too space consuming. Even a Model M (An early model that came from a POS environment). Was fun to type on but far too noisy and the key travel is too long. In hindsight I should've sold it, what with the hype surrounding them now.
[QUOTE=Tezzanator92;27375853]I trashed all the old stuff I had, too space consuming. Even a Model M (An early model that came from a POS environment). Was fun to type on but far too noisy and the key travel is too long. In hindsight I should've sold it, what with the hype surrounding them now.[/QUOTE] There has always been hype about mechanical keyboards but just behind closed doors, but now the the gaming side of life has revived them people are starting to find out about them
Hold on, digging out Macintosh Plus.
[QUOTE=Nsybouts;27363072]Gotta love the Model M and the lovely sound it makes [img_thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/98757254557654376544.png[/img_thumb] Also, I want [b]ALL[/b] of your keyboards[/QUOTE] Leninade, ha :v: We had a computer with those huge floppies and a black and white display (More like black and green but yeah...). I forgot what happened to it but I know my dad trashed the floppies for it, along with a big part of my childhood :saddowns:
[QUOTE=MIPS;27363173]Did someone say my name? [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/emoicons/Takuya_rating.png[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073279.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073278.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/PB073269.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/around%20the%20house/P8022886.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I know this might sound off topic but do you still have that n64 development kit thing or something along those lines.
[QUOTE=.FLAP.JACK.DAN.;27383915]I know this might sound off topic but do you still have that n64 development kit thing or something along those lines.[/QUOTE] It's in storage at my parents place right now. Once again, space limitations at my new apartment limit me from setting ANY of my systems up. I do beleive though that the last time I was using the box it was in, the R5000 CPU was either poorly seated or bad as it caused the OS to panic. An Onyx system was recently sold here in the pacific northwest. You gotta be at the right place at the right time. Just before Boeing closed their surplus store a couple years ago, they had all sorts of goodies in there. BOTH my Crimson and Onyx came from there. [QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;27370006]Yes, your computers are powerful and all BUT CAN THEY RUN DOOM?[/QUOTE] Ask and you shall receive on Doom's TRUE native hardware: NeXT. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/P2222535.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/P2222537.jpg[/IMG] I don't think there is anyone else on FP that knows as much about computers from before 1996 than I do. Everything after that, I'm still illiterate about. Sandy Bridge? Tualatin? Can I buy a vowel? Fuck, I don't even know how to use an iPhone! :v:
[QUOTE=MIPS;27384430]NeXTCube[/QUOTE] Isn't NExT the OS that Mac OS X is based off of? Regardless that is pretty kickass. If I might ask, how old are you? [editline]1:11[/editline] Just wondering because wondering how your interest in [i]old[/i] computers started, either from experience/nostalgia from them or by reading the history books and getting interested
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;27384494]Isn't NExT the OS that Mac OS X is based off of? Regardless that is pretty kickass. If I might ask, how old are you?[/QUOTE] That would be NeXTStep, and only the Kernel, the XNU Kernel which is a mix of the Mach kernel and some nice ol' BSD 4.3 [editline]13th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=MIPS;27384430]It's in storage at my parents place right now. Once again, space limitations at my new apartment limit me from setting ANY of my systems up. I do beleive though that the last time I was using the box it was in, the R5000 CPU was either poorly seated or bad as it caused the OS to panic. An Onyx system was recently sold here in the pacific northwest. You gotta be at the right place at the right time. Just before Boeing closed their surplus store a couple years ago, they had all sorts of goodies in there. BOTH my Crimson and Onyx came from there. Ask and you shall receive on Doom's TRUE native hardware: NeXT. [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/P2222535.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/P2222537.jpg[/img_thumb] I don't think there is anyone else on FP that knows as much about computers from before 1996 than I do. Everything after that, I'm still illiterate about. Sandy Bridge? Tualatin? Can I buy a vowel? Fuck, I don't even know how to use an iPhone! :v:[/QUOTE] Goddamnit! You can't get working NeXT Products here, Sucks being in Aus.
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