• Retrocomputing Megathread
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[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;27561053][url]http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Apple-Lisa-2-A6S0200-Computer-Loaded-Works-/180612071766?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0d518156[/url] Good deal Y/N? It's loaded.[/QUOTE] Thats been left in the loft for years, note the terrible discolouration. My amiga's been used for nearly all of its lifetime and its still a nice clean white.
[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;27568700]Thats been left in the loft for years, note the terrible discolouration. My amiga's been used for nearly all of its lifetime and its still a nice clean white.[/QUOTE] True, it is rather superbeige, but other than that it boots and works well, but I just don't have a thousand dollars to spend on it. I was more of wondering on what a reasonable price range for a Lisa is.
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;27572042]True, it is rather superbeige, but other than that it boots and works well, but I just don't have a thousand dollars to spend on it. I was more of wondering on what a reasonable price range for a Lisa is.[/QUOTE] Since the Lisa is a vintage item, there is no 'reasonable' price associated with it. You're basically at the mercy of the person that owns it and their sentimental pricetag associated with it. Your best chance of finding one at a reasonable price is searching thrift stores, old computer parts stores and junk yards.
That's a nice Mac XL with a widget drive. Lisa's normally were sold with that yellowed color similar to the Macintosh. Also, the XL was a "converted" Lisa in that it had the video ROM swapped so it displayed square pixels (!!!) and came with a disk that acted like the Amiga 1000 Kickstart floppy and allowed you to then boot into MacOS instead of LisaOS. With the Widget drive however that process of bootstrapping becomes automatic so effectively the Lisa becomes a Macintosh with 1mb ram and a 5 or 10mb hard drive. $1000 though seems a bit much but hey, some fanboy is totally going to cream their pants over that. I paid $150 for mine but it needed serious TLC to get working again. (leaking battery ate up traces that I had to recreate them using schematics and wire wrap, the video was dead, the floppy was jammed, and the panels were painted black) Also, the notice I got didn't lie. Around lunchtime we had a dropoff from another computer shop that recently closed and they left us their display items. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/100_1537.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/100_1540.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/100_1538.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/100_1539.jpg[/IMG] We got boxes of 9-track tape, four different disk packs (the largest being 30mb in size), a random board, and some Z80-based computer that we have yet to figure out what the hell it is. It looks like S-100 but it's not. [del]There are some times[/del] Most of the time I'm shitting my pants worrying if they will lay me off because my sales are shit but the rest of the time I'm swimming in fucking awesome gear. I never thought that I would end up selling refurbished Apple II computers for a living.
[QUOTE=MIPS;27574506] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/100_1540.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Look at that just right and it looks like a mini city...
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;27574736]Look at that just right and it looks like a mini city...[/QUOTE] The ORIGINAL Sim City :v:
I've got an socket 462 Athlon from 1999 at a speed around ~1GHz, with a Zalman cooler. Would anyone be interested in that, and maybe a GeForce 4? They should be working, but I can't test the Athlon. I know this isn't really "retro", but well, it's spare parts, and I don't think anyone outside this thread could make a use of either.
Content BuMP. Recycling source landed me two more scores today. Bad news first: There was a 600mb [url=http://hampage.hu/oldiron/other/ra82rack.jpg]Digital RA82 fixed disk drive[/url] I spotted today that was not for sale. The ecycler has a strict data destruction policy where all drives that come must run through DBAN. If thy are not compatible with the DBAN system, they are destroyed. Anyways, the good news was that I found the systems it went with. First was a PDP-11/23-turned-MicroVAX 4000-minicomputer. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1568.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1569.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1570.jpg[/IMG] Nothing overly special. It's just a symbiote VAX that took up residence in an old PDP-11/23 which in the first place was a pretty cheap system. Cool thing is that it has 64mb ram (someone had deep pockets) and a SCSI card. The real gold was finding the beast: a PDP-11/84. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1595.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1596.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1599.jpg[/IMG] Now THAT's more like it. It's not one of the "[url=http://www.cosam.org/images/pdp11-35/pdp11-35.jpg]classic[/url]" systems with the colorful front panels with switches and lights but it IS a PDP. The fun thing was that they were so complex at the time, even the CPU could not be made into one chip as the technology to do so did not yet exist. Instead they made two separate chips, then put them on ANOTHER chip which they then called the CPU. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1603.jpg[/IMG] My system also requires a key to start. I had one as a doodad but it was misplaced when I moved. It's probably boxed somewhere. Anyways, I had to use pliers to manually power the system on. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1606.jpg[/IMG] Status 1! It works! [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1610.jpg[/IMG] There were also a few other boards that were not in it but I can put in there if I prefer. One of this is the [i]optional[/i] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point]Floating Point[/url] processor. Again, it's divided over several chips. In this case, sixteen with the rest of the chips on the board being the glue logic that linked the chips to the Unibus backplane. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1591.jpg[/IMG] In modern times, this is integrated into both the CPU and GPU. The whole thing like the other box can be used from a serial port which is accessible and configured on the back of both systems. I have to find a serial cable that will work but shit this thing is awesome.
[QUOTE=MIPS;27746666]Content BuMP. Recycling source landed me two more scores today. Bad news first: There was a 600mb [url=http://hampage.hu/oldiron/other/ra82rack.jpg]Digital RA82 fixed disk drive[/url] I spotted today that was not for sale. The ecycler has a strict data destruction policy where all drives that come must run through DBAN. If thy are not compatible with the DBAN system, they are destroyed. Anyways, the good news was that I found the systems it went with. First was a PDP-11/23-turned-MicroVAX 4000-minicomputer. [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1568.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1569.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1570.jpg[/img_thumb] Nothing overly special. It's just a symbiote VAX that took up residence in an old PDP-11/23 which in the first place was a pretty cheap system. Cool thing is that it has 64mb ram (someone had deep pockets) and a SCSI card. The real gold was finding the beast: a PDP-11/84. [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1595.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1596.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1599.jpg[/img_thumb] Now THAT's more like it. It's not one of the "[url=http://www.cosam.org/images/pdp11-35/pdp11-35.jpg]classic[/url]" systems with the colorful front panels with switches and lights but it IS a PDP. The fun thing was that they were so complex at the time, even the CPU could not be made into one chip as the technology to do so did not yet exist. Instead they made two separate chips, then put them on ANOTHER chip which they then called the CPU. [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1603.jpg[/img_thumb] My system also requires a key to start. I had one as a doodad but it was misplaced when I moved. It's probably boxed somewhere. Anyways, I had to use pliers to manually power the system on. [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1606.jpg[/img_thumb] Status 1! It works! [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1610.jpg[/img_thumb] There were also a few other boards that were not in it but I can put in there if I prefer. One of this is the [i]optional[/i] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point]Floating Point[/url] processor. Again, it's divided over several chips. In this case, sixteen with the rest of the chips on the board being the glue logic that linked the chips to the Unibus backplane. [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1591.jpg[/img_thumb] In modern times, this is integrated into both the CPU and GPU. The whole thing like the other box can be used from a serial port which is accessible and configured on the back of both systems. I have to find a serial cable that will work but shit this thing is awesome.[/QUOTE] Damn, that's awesome. You're awesome.
Is there anywhere I can get a badass old computer?
[QUOTE=MIPS;27746666] [img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1595.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Reminds me of an air conditioner. Other than that, fucking awesome.
Those computer parts absoultely aren't lying on a carpet.
I just traded my 2002 eMac for a much more awesome, more retro machine. Behold. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pwpSR.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/m54Dz.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/lYmvW.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/uQvsT.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/geVaN.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Wx7gj.jpg[/IMG] A late 90s, "Sawtooth" PowerMac G4. This thing can run just about any PowerPC Mac game and a lot of the 68k ones, and is compatible with the classic OS from 8.6 on. Sadly, I had to put 9.2.2 on it to get it not to go insane when I tried to use my USB mouse with it. Oh well, it's still awesome.
[IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/9hrtbb.png[/IMG] Dell Dimension XPS T500 Pentium III processor Running Windows 98
[QUOTE=Tactics;27802107]Windows 98[/QUOTE] :byodood:
I found an old Apple II computer in my attic, gonna install Oregon Trail all up on that Bitch.
Picked up the last of that PDP-11. Dat hard drive. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1613.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1614.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1615.jpg[/IMG] It's beastly for 600mb. God dammit, it's as big as the fucking computer itself! :v: [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1618.jpg[/IMG] And of course, there was also a tape drive. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/hauls/100_1619.jpg[/IMG] Well there I have it. Short of the DEC-branded rack (which is white with rounded edges) I now have an average sized PSP-11 setup.
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;27804569]:byodood:[/QUOTE] Windows 98 >>> OSX Deal'v'it :c00lbert:
[QUOTE=Tactics;27802107][img_thumb]http://i53.tinypic.com/9hrtbb.png[/img_thumb] Dell Dimension XPS T500 Pentium III processor Running Windows 98[/QUOTE] Upgrade it to 2000, and its not a terrible web browsing/email machine.
Speaking of DEC PDPs.. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akvSE5Z474c[/media] Music starts at 2:15 if you're impatient.
I just took a picture some of you may find interesting: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/nSJZ3.jpg[/IMG] Connected to a Telnet BBS with my Amiga 1000.
A Telnet bbs? You got a network adapter on that thing? Meanwhile, I'm fighting with that beastly hard drive. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHVtAbxZ-7w&feature=player_profilepage[/media] I'm heading out as well in the morning too to pick up some parts to make a new data cable so I can connect it to the controller as well and earlier tnight put another [url=http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/wan/2201093846.html]Cry for help[/url] on the local Craigslist. Once I get this thing up and booting I'll post some finished product pictures, complete with a VT-100 terminal. Edit: I like how there is a complete service manual for this thing. without running completely through the diagnostics, It appears the speed transducer may be acting up or the brake is not disengaging and causing the speed transducer to look bad. Edit: You gotta love a hard drive that is so smart that it has an Intel 8080-based onboard computer just to handle diagnostics. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/100_1625.jpg[/IMG]
Listening to it is a fascinating indication of how this technology has developed. You should do some 'computer history' videos.
[QUOTE=MIPS;27911414]A Telnet bbs? You got a network adapter on that thing? [/QUOTE] Actually, I use a program called InternetModem and a serial cable to use my PC as a virtual modem. The baud rate is incredibly low, so it actually works like a real BBS.
i found an old atari computer in my attic a few years ago. there were absolutely no programs for sale on ebay and i didn't have any so i decided to take it apart to see how old tech worked. when i put it back together it broke :(
I have a Powermac G4 Cube and a Powermac G5, but I wouldn't call them retro. At least not compared to my IBM PS/2 laptop with a 25Mhz CPU and Windows 3.1!!! :buddy: Post pics y/n?
Very Y [editline]9th February 2011[/editline] And mail me that G5's case :buddy:
I remember coding for my C64. :buddy:
[QUOTE=DaMoggen;27951791]I remember coding for my C64. :buddy:[/QUOTE] 10 print "Hello" 20 goto 10
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;27951763]Very Y [editline]9th February 2011[/editline] And mail me that G5's case :buddy:[/QUOTE] No, I need that. You never know when you'll need something bulletproof :tinfoil: [editline]9th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Fatal-Error;27953130]10 print "Hello" 20 goto 10[/QUOTE] Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello
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