• X86 to X64 (64bit Windows) First time "What should I know?"
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Hey, I just got x64 version of Windows 7 and I have almost no idea what is different. From what I read before I installed it, It's makes programs written for x64 run more efficiently on the processor and allows 4Gb ram.\ That is All I know. I'm using an Intel Core i7 860 2.80GHz Lynnfield 45nm I'd like to know how this will effect x86 Programs and Games like Team fortress and Halo 2 and some advice on what to and not to do.
Holy oldnesss. It doesn't affect much (I believe), just faster as it allows more RAM and some 16 bit programs (mainly the ancient ones) can have issues running. Like the LEGOLAND installer. I miss it. Didn't mean 32 bit, sorry.
Oh lord... so my Windows 98 Games are now useless!?
Shouldn't change x86 programs at all You can't run old 16 bit programs though. Virtual Machines would allow it though.
But yeah most games that were made before 64bit run perfectly fine. [editline]2nd December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Banshee FrieNd;26437212]Oh lord... so my Windows 98 Games are now useless!?[/QUOTE] What games might I ask?
I seriously use Windows 98 and Windows 95 Programs... What am I going to do..
vmware
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;26437506]vmware[/QUOTE] The Same vmware that costs $133?
[QUOTE=Banshee FrieNd;26437680]The Same vmware that costs $133?[/QUOTE] Oracle VirtualBox.
[QUOTE=Banshee FrieNd;26437680]The Same vmware that costs $133?[/QUOTE] VMWare Player is free. However the program is slow as fuck in my experience (on the latest too), so I use VirtualBox.
Most 16bit stuff I have is DOS so I use DOSBox for 16bit stuffs.
About the only differences you will be able to notice are you have two sets of Program Files: [B]Program Files[/B] is where 64-bit programs get installed. [B]Program Files (x86)[/B] is where 32-bit programs get installed. ...and you can use more than 4GB of system memory without resorting to PAE mode.
[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;26443201]About the only differences you will be able to notice are you have two sets of Program Files: [B]Program Files[/B] is where 64-bit programs get installed. [B]Program Files (x86)[/B] is where 32-bit programs get installed. ...and you can use more than 4GB of system memory without resorting to PAE mode.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the folders don't really matter, other than windows making them get installed in those folders. [editline]2nd December 2010[/editline] I take that back, apparently windows can use it to match up the launched program with the correct version of system .dll's and files it needs. I'm not actually sure
VirtualBox
[QUOTE=Profanwolf;26443230]I'm pretty sure the folders don't really matter, other than windows making them get installed in those folders. [editline]2nd December 2010[/editline] I take that back, apparently windows can use it to match up the launched program with the correct version of system .dll's and files it needs. I'm not actually sure[/QUOTE] x64 executables use windows/system32, x86 ones use windows/sysWOW64 (Windows On Windows 64). The Program Files splitting just makes it easier to see which programs are x64 and which are x86.
[QUOTE=leach139;26443406]x64 executables use windows/system32, x86 ones use windows/sysWOW64 (Windows On Windows 64). The Program Files splitting just makes it easier to see which programs are x64 and which are x86.[/QUOTE] Why don't they just rename it to system64?
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;26443726]Why don't they just rename it to system64?[/QUOTE] Renaming System32 would take a lot of changes and end up splitting the two architecture codes further apart. And renaming SysWOW64 would imply that there are 64-bit files in it and calling it WOW64 makes since as Windows (32-bit) on Windows 64-bit makes sense.
[QUOTE=Panda X;26443929]Renaming System32 would take a lot of changes[/QUOTE] I think that shows how terribly coded some parts of Windows are.
OP, just do everything exactly the same except for downloading drivers and antivirus software (get the 64-bit versions)
[QUOTE=thf;26466411]I think that shows how terribly coded some parts of Windows are.[/QUOTE] Microsoft has been struggling to keep programs compatible from Win95 to Seven, so there's a few things to sacrifice for it to work.
[QUOTE=PiXeN;26506371]Microsoft has been struggling to keep programs compatible from Win95 to Seven, so there's a few things to sacrifice for it to work.[/QUOTE] I really think Microsoft should just drop the ball on that one.
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