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But MS should do away with Aero, the whole glass in GUI is just so superficial, and glass GUI's are getting out of fashion now (except for Apple's OSX, but then again deviantart teens love that stuff and they are the target demographic if their commercials are anything to judge by). [editline]2nd February 2012[/editline] I always liked the look of various Linux distros, minus the very recent ones that made them fugly.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34517933]But MS should do away with Aero, the whole glass in GUI is just so superficial, and glass GUI's are getting out of fashion now (except for Apple's OSX, but then again deviantart teens love that stuff and they are the target demographic if their commercials are anything to judge by). [editline]2nd February 2012[/editline] I always liked the look of various Linux distros, minus the very recent ones that made them fugly.[/QUOTE] I think glass themes can look nice. It's just that the default Aero isn't.
[QUOTE=Panda X;34518071]I think glass themes can look nice. It's just that the default Aero isn't.[/QUOTE] I think making glass UI's good is difficult. There's a reason OSX only uses glass for one item pretty much.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34518090]I think making glass UI's good is difficult.[/QUOTE] Took me 1 and a half years to make mine. :v:
[QUOTE=Panda X;34518071]I think glass themes can look nice. It's just that the default Aero isn't.[/QUOTE] My bigger issue with aero is that it has those absolutely massive borders everywhere. In a way that's what I love on metro the lack of them. I know where a window ends, I don't need the system scream at me with a massive border where it is.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34517933]But MS should do away with Aero, the whole glass in GUI is just so superficial, and glass GUI's are getting out of fashion now (except for Apple's OSX, but then again deviantart teens love that stuff and they are the target demographic if their commercials are anything to judge by). [editline]2nd February 2012[/editline] I always liked the look of various Linux distros, minus the very recent ones that made them fugly.[/QUOTE] linux distros have always been pretty gross looking. they still are pretty gross looking but at least they're trying now
[QUOTE=Panda X;34518071]I think glass themes can look nice. It's just that the default Aero isn't.[/QUOTE] Just use rainmeter I suppose if you want something to look KDE-ish
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34518090]I think making glass UI's good is difficult. There's a reason OSX only uses glass for one item pretty much.[/QUOTE] I tried to make some (mockups of) themes several times. It's really, really hard to get something nice. Only one I was able to tolerate besides Aero was Soft7, but some of his changes made me start liking it less and less.
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;34519669]I tried to make some (mockups of) themes several times. It's really, really hard to get something nice. Only one I was able to tolerate besides Aero was Soft7, but some of his changes made me start liking it less and less.[/QUOTE] I found the best way to make a theme is just start making stuff even if you hate it and revise it until you have a better idea of what'll work and can start to see the idea come to life in your head.
[QUOTE=Lazor;34519257]linux distros have always been pretty gross looking. they still are pretty gross looking but at least they're trying now[/QUOTE] Didn't matter as much back then because Linux users had a brain and knew how to modify their UI. Now that the usability on Linux is on par with Windows though, the target demographic is different and they have to work a bit more on the presentation side of thing (Ubuntu is helping a lot with this with proper documentation, good forums, etc.) which is why so many improvements are recently happening.
Does anyone see anything missing? Apparently the start button shows up when you hover down in that corner. (Shitty for those with a second monitor on the left though) (This build was compiled Tuesday) [IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/xjyazN.png[/IMG]
Where's the start button?
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;34528795]Where's the start button?[/QUOTE] In the corner, hidden?
[QUOTE=Panda X;34528751]Does anyone see anything missing? Apparently the start button shows up when you hover down in that corner. (Shitty for those with a second monitor on the left though) (This build was compiled Tuesday) [IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/xjyazN.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] not using all the ram? :o
[QUOTE=ShadowMario;34529272]not using all the ram? :o[/QUOTE] And it's even 64-bit, WTF gives? :o
[QUOTE=Brock Obama;34533087]And it's even 64-bit, WTF gives? :o[/QUOTE] Probably due to the integrated graphics.
[QUOTE=Brock Obama;34533087]And it's even 64-bit, WTF gives? :o[/QUOTE] If the GPU is using System RAM as a dedicated VRAM rather than just sharing it, it may be deducted from the total system memory.
Guys I read somewhere that Win8 is coming out around August or so (the final, consumer version). If I'm planning on getting my college laptop over the summer, would it be smarter to buy one with Win7, and then upgrade in October, or to just wait for Win8 to come out and get a laptop for it? I.E., will laptops that come with Win8 build in be better optimized for Win8 somehow, or will just a straight up upgrade work as well?
I don't know about it releasing in August, that seems a bit early... Also, I love that Windows 8 Beta expires in January of 2013, giving users a whole year to evaluate it to see if they want to buy it / allow developers to use it for that long. That is really nice of them. I seriously am getting a hard-on waiting for Windows 8 Beta. So much more customization of the start menu in comparison to right now, even if it isnt fully unlocked to use pictures and stuff, I am sure someone will quickly come up with a way to patch it, just as someone designed Windows 7 Tweaker to be able to modify the login background of 7, and WindowsBootUpdater to modify the Windows 7 Boot splashscreen, windows 8 should not be that hard to modify for real, true, customization, too. Personalization hacks or not, windows 8 beta looks a lot sexier to me. The removal of the Start Menu Button in favor of a hover-to-show scheme looks like it might be something nice, I will just have to test it out when we get there.
Okay, integrated graphics need to be turned off in the BIOS of my friend's PC then, as he's confused about where his RAM went after he upgraded to 64-bit 7. :v:
[QUOTE=Colton Rappe;34541045]I don't know about it releasing in August, that seems a bit early... Also, I love that Windows 8 Beta expires in January of 2013, giving users a whole year to evaluate it to see if they want to buy it / allow developers to use it for that long. That is really nice of them. I seriously am getting a hard-on waiting for Windows 8 Beta. So much more customization of the start menu in comparison to right now, even if it isnt fully unlocked to use pictures and stuff, I am sure someone will quickly come up with a way to patch it, just as someone designed Windows 7 Tweaker to be able to modify the login background of 7, and WindowsBootUpdater to modify the Windows 7 Boot splashscreen, windows 8 should not be that hard to modify for real, true, customization, too. Personalization hacks or not, windows 8 beta looks a lot sexier to me. The removal of the Start Menu Button in favor of a hover-to-show scheme looks like it might be something nice, I will just have to test it out when we get there.[/QUOTE] The logon screen and splash screen use full 24-bit color whereas the start screen's image is indexed. [url]http://winunleaked.tk/2011/11/how-to-use-a-custom-background-for-metro-start-menu-in-windows-8-pre-beta/[/url] I believe a modification could be made within the DirectUI files, adding another element that overlays the original background for an image, though it'd take me a while to test it and get right. [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] Also: [url]http://www.bing.com/?Win8Start=1[/url]
[QUOTE=Panda X;34543497]The logon screen and splash screen use full 24-bit color whereas the start screen's image is indexed. [url]http://winunleaked.tk/2011/11/how-to-use-a-custom-background-for-metro-start-menu-in-windows-8-pre-beta/[/url] I believe a modification could be made within the DirectUI files, adding another element that overlays the original background for an image, though it'd take me a while to test it and get right. [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] Also: [url]http://www.bing.com/?Win8Start=1[/url][/QUOTE] Interestingly enough I have already modified the background image for the Start Menu in the DP, and am in full acknowledgement that with indexed color, it would look rather goofy and blotchy, but it is still worth allowing people to make their own, and by own, I refer to the Swirls, and Gradiated fade-off blocks, not a whole imaged background that would distract the user. But again, I am sure most people will be fine with the 8 built-in patterned overlays and general color schemes, which I also hex modified to make vibrant colors in the DP. And I have not attempted to modify the startscreen splash, which right now, since it is rather sexy, I have no reason to.
[QUOTE=Colton Rappe;34545711]Interestingly enough I have already modified the background image for the Start Menu in the DP, and am in full acknowledgement that with indexed color, it would look rather goofy and blotchy, but it is still worth allowing people to make their own, and by own, I refer to the Swirls, and Gradiated fade-off blocks, not a whole imaged background that would distract the user. But again, I am sure most people will be fine with the 8 built-in patterned overlays and general color schemes, which I also hex modified to make vibrant colors in the DP. And I have not attempted to modify the startscreen splash, which right now, since it is rather sexy, I have no reason to.[/QUOTE] I was just saying it's different in later builds and those programs (last I saw) didn't align the image properly which is why I prefer DirectUI modification.
Has anyone heard anything about that tablet/ultrabook hybrid that was at CES running Windows 8? I'm planning on getting something of the like later this year in preparation for university.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;34546055]Has anyone heard anything about that tablet/ultrabook hybrid that was at CES running Windows 8? I'm planning on getting something of the like later this year in preparation for university.[/QUOTE] My guess is in the future, all x86 tablets will be hybrids.
[img]http://i52.tinypic.com/2mnkrhg.png[/img] uh where are my graphics settings tried both stable and preview drivers for windows 8
[QUOTE=PsYchOsIs;34557560][img]http://i52.tinypic.com/2mnkrhg.png[/img] uh where are my graphics settings tried both stable and preview drivers for windows 8[/QUOTE] Check under Preferences or Presets. DUH.
[QUOTE=Brock Obama;34566770]Check under Preferences or Presets. DUH.[/QUOTE] AMD Vision Engine Control Center and CCC are two different things. [editline]5th February 2012[/editline] [url]http://bbs.pcbeta.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=966628&page=4#pid27058372[/url]
[QUOTE=Panda X;34567254]AMD Vision Engine Control Center and CCC are two different things. [editline]5th February 2012[/editline] [url]http://bbs.pcbeta.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=966628&page=4#pid27058372[/url][/QUOTE] This may seem crazy, but I am really really looking forward to seeing what kind of patterns for customization that they let you use in beta. All I have seen so far, is the following. Pattern #1: Faded Gradients (Green Default Pattern) Pattern #2: Swirly Lines Pattern #3. Bubbles (From Panda's most recent link) Pattern #4 ~ #8: Unknown. The tension is almost palpable.
Is there a way I can have both metro and the start menu?
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