• Windows 8
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[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;34658936]No because it does try to install GRUB[/QUOTE] Last I checked it had the windows bootloader load everything from a file on the windows drive.
bootmgr system file on the first hard drive detected by the BIOS. Does not need to be on the windows drive (mine is on my F drive.) I know the wubi installer just jams itself into the windows boot manager so nothing gets messed with (because you can not fuck with that shit if a OS is loaded) but it will install GRUB if you install any other way. [editline]12th February 2012[/editline] as for the whole locked down boot thing, that is more or less a UEFI setting and if you are just going to use your current stuff, you dont need to really worry about it because you need to turn it on. It will be on by default on systems that have the whole "designed for windows 8" sticker (which may or may not end up with microsoft getting sued again)
Windows 8 will suck.Why the fuck do we need a new operating system? I hope no one buy it. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Threadshitting" - Autumn))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=vatooooooooor;34667121]Windows 8 will suck.Why the fuck do we need a new operating system? I hope no one buy it.[/QUOTE] You were just banned yesterday for spamming, and now you're shitposting. I can tell you'd make for an excellent member of this forum :smile:
[QUOTE=vatooooooooor;34667121]Windows 8 will suck.Why the fuck do we need a new operating system? I hope no one buy it. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Threadshitting" - Autumn))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Yes, we will all become baristas and switch to Mac.
Is it possible to install this latest Windows 8 build and then go back to 7? Perhaps put it on a usb?
[QUOTE=gparent;34640319]Replace "tablet" with PC and try to understand how retarded this sounds. I don't want an "OS" tablet, I want a tablet that runs whatever I want on it. If it's ARM then that's Windows and Linux, if it's x86 then that's Windows and Linux.[/QUOTE] The tablet market is being treated as a device rather than PC. Remember, part of Steve Jobs' "post PC" era crap was how his laptops and desktops are not devices rather than PC's. There's a reason techy nerds don't care much for tablets.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34673811] There's a reason techy nerds don't care much for tablets.[/QUOTE] It's not so much we don't care for them, it's just that they're not comparable to a PC in what they can do. I've played with the Toshiba Thrive tablet and a few others and I absolutely love them, but I prefer my PC in terms of what I can do with it.
Who here agrees with me when I say I think this supposedly new Windows logo looks awful? [url]http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/172476.htm[/url]
It kinda reminds me of the original windows logo. [img]http://seeklogo.com/images/M/Microsoft_Windows_1_0-logo-C00E1B3B3F-seeklogo.com.gif[/img] Although Microsoft HAD to make it inconsistent by putting a different logo for the boot animation :v: [b]Edit:[/b] After seeing it on a device button I just realized that it's really gross.
Egad, that new logo looks like poo. It's such a modernized version of the logo that takes away the personality of the original logo, and even more so, the colors, which only seems to leave the end-user with an odd looking window key, that is just, well, depressing. I mean, I prefer the strange solid blue windows logos to this thing any-day.
[b]I decided to round up a compilation of customization tools for Windows 8; Stay thirsty my friends. [release] My personal favorite: [url=http://www.thewindowsclub.com/metro-ui-tweaker-windows-8-released]Metro UI Tweaker[/url] [img_thumb]http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/7849/metrouitweaker400x416.jpg[/img_thumb] [url=http://www.julien-manici.com/windows_7_logon_background_changer/]Windows Logon Background Changer[/url] (designed for Windows 7, but fully compatible with Windows 8) [img_thumb]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4673/win7bg.jpg[/img_thumb] [url=http://ruanmei.deviantart.com/art/Windows-8-Start-Menu-Switcher-258511940]Windows 8 Start Menu Switcher[/url] [img_thumb]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6752/windows8startmenuswitch.png[/img_thumb] [url=http://ruanmei.deviantart.com/art/Windows-8-Start-Tweaker-1-01-259453275]Windows 8 Start Tweaker[/url] [img_thumb]http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7474/windows8starttweaker101.jpg[/img_thumb] [url=http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?/topic/32662-windows-8-start-menu-toggle/]Windows 8 Blue Poison[/url] [img_thumb]http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/2080/windows8startmenutoggle.png[/img_thumb][/b][/release]
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34673811]The tablet market is being treated as a device rather than PC. Remember, part of Steve Jobs' "post PC" era crap was how his laptops and desktops are not devices rather than PC's.[/QUOTE] Yes, I remember the marketing bullshit too. The walled garden is fine because this PC is called a tablet rather than a PC, yaddy yadda. Too bad only the techies realize that it's a superficial difference used as an excuse to put unneeded restrictions on those "devices".
[QUOTE=Panda X;34675736]Who here agrees with me when I say I think this supposedly new Windows logo looks awful? [URL]http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/172476.htm[/URL][/QUOTE] Hopefully that is just the "Home" button design and not the Windows logo, The flat shaded Windows Logo looks amazing
[QUOTE=gparent;34682316]Yes, I remember the marketing bullshit too. The walled garden is fine because this PC is called a tablet rather than a PC, yaddy yadda. Too bad only the techies realize that it's a superficial difference used as an excuse to put unneeded restrictions on those "devices".[/QUOTE] Is it really just boiling down to Apple marketing for everyone? Are you just being that resistive? Nobody sees where the market as a whole is going? Has anyone considered that maybe the vast majority of people, including the average computer owner, would much prefer a single mobile device that's capable of everything their old PC was? (This excludes the enterprise and gamers.) With a slicker, easier UI (laptops won't be obsolete just yet, but this will eat up a lot of their market share), much more efficient power consumption, capable of fitting in an area the size of a thin paper notebook? All that's needed are slim, wireless keyboards and mice for tablets from various manufacturers and most of the switch will be complete. It would've been completely unnatural for the tower-based PC to remain the de facto standard when we can always just carry one computer with us anywhere. Microsoft understands that. The old order doesn't. People are clingy. Soon enough, you'll be denouncing the generation of computers following the tablet and smartphone as rootin'-tootin' high-falutin' voodoo machines, and won't understand why those damned kids don't think they're terrible. Hope you like the taste of dust. [b]Edit:[/b] It's so easy to boil down to marketing precisely because it is. But it's all true. Steve Jobs and a few other industry luminaries from various companies knew where the industry was headed, despite the already the ho-hum nature of tablet PC's. The race was to see who could get there first and break the market barrier, and take advantage of the lead position. Apple won.
I'm looking forward to W8! :D
I'm sorry if I am dumb but I am going to try out the OS on my main computer, will it keep all of my files?
So long as you don't format the drive. Set up a new partition and dual boot instead, that way if you don't like it you could just boot back into 7.
[QUOTE=Panda X;34686539]So long as you don't format the drive. Set up a new partition and dual boot instead, that way if you don't like it you could just boot back into 7.[/QUOTE] I've had it on my virtual box, I love it so far and even if I wanna go back to 7 I have the CD for it on my top shelf so no worries with dual booting. I wasn't intending to format anyway
Okay, I have a question gentlemen. I have downloaded the developer release, but my flashdrive is .01 GB too small to make it media to allow me to dualboot. Is it even worth installing this over windows 7 or should I wait until I find something large enough to carry it to install it for a dualboot?
The Consumer Preview would probably be worth installing over Win7. It comes out in like 2 weeks.
[IMG]http://puu.sh/gSaU.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://puu.sh/gSb3.jpg[/IMG] Why am I getting this?
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;34690942][IMG]http://puu.sh/gSaU.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://puu.sh/gSb3.jpg[/IMG] Why am I getting this?[/QUOTE] It says right there that it's a bad image. Compare the MD5 checksums, but I think you need to download a new image. Yours seems corrupted somehow.
[QUOTE=P320;34691914]It says right there that it's a bad image. Comapre the MD5 checksums, but I think you need to download a new image. Yours seems corrupted somehow.[/QUOTE] Eh I'll wait for the consumer version
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;34692258]Eh I'll wait for the consumer version[/QUOTE] My Windows 8 DP installation is slowly killing itself. I have to wait for the Consumer Preview before I reinstall, just so I don't have to do it twice.
Hope they added better drivers to Consumer Preview. On DP my net was shitting itself, couldn't get it to work for more than a few minutes. :(
[QUOTE=ali3n92;34693347]Hope they added better drivers to Consumer Preview. On DP my net was shitting itself, couldn't get it to work for more than a few minutes. :([/QUOTE] I can't even click my Wireless bars in the tasktray, clicking them does nothing, so I'm stuck using the shitty WLAN utility by Ralink. :/
[QUOTE=nERVEcenter;34684395]Is it really just boiling down to Apple marketing for everyone? Are you just being that resistive? Nobody sees where the market as a whole is going? Has anyone considered that maybe the vast majority of people, including the average computer owner, would much prefer a single mobile device that's capable of everything their old PC was? (This excludes the enterprise and gamers.) With a slicker, easier UI (laptops won't be obsolete just yet, but this will eat up a lot of their market share), much more efficient power consumption, capable of fitting in an area the size of a thin paper notebook? All that's needed are slim, wireless keyboards and mice for tablets from various manufacturers and most of the switch will be complete. It would've been completely unnatural for the tower-based PC to remain the de facto standard when we can always just carry one computer with us anywhere. Microsoft understands that. The old order doesn't. People are clingy. Soon enough, you'll be denouncing the generation of computers following the tablet and smartphone as rootin'-tootin' high-falutin' voodoo machines, and won't understand why those damned kids don't think they're terrible. Hope you like the taste of dust. [b]Edit:[/b] It's so easy to boil down to marketing precisely because it is. But it's all true. Steve Jobs and a few other industry luminaries from various companies knew where the industry was headed, despite the already the ho-hum nature of tablet PC's. The race was to see who could get there first and break the market barrier, and take advantage of the lead position. Apple won.[/QUOTE] Man, quit the licking, no need to get your tongue this freaking brown. I wasn't even talking about Apple, I just reused the Walled Garden term. All I'm saying is that allowing artificial restrictions on a device just because it's named "Tablet" rather than "PC" is silly. It's silly when you use that excuse to lock it down. Now, if you want to sell a different experience like Apple does, then sure! It -can- benefit the customer (even if I think Apple's model is very far from a good model of doing that), and they should know what they get into when they buy the device. And it's not a dumb restriction like "This runs ARM and MS is scared of Linux on ARM! So err lock it!" So 100% fine by me. Really, being resistive? And somehow I don't understand smartphones and tablets because they're new? Honestly man, just because contrary to most of this forum some of us' balls have dropped doesn't mean we're old farts who refuse to understand tablets and smartphones. I own a smart phone, and when a tablet I consider good comes out, I might buy it.
[QUOTE=ali3n92;34693347]Hope they added better drivers to Consumer Preview. On DP my net was shitting itself, couldn't get it to work for more than a few minutes. :([/QUOTE] Where you using Windows 7's drivers or those testing drivers made specifically for 8?
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;34650000]I'd say resistive panels are better than capacitive panels for tablets, and after I bought I saw that they just resell it from a company named eGalaxTouch, which offers multitouch resistive panels, with pressure metering, but yeah, this one I have bought is really great, it's even scratch resistant. Also they also have capacitive panels if you want, but it's more expensive[/QUOTE] Resistive is no where near as good as Capacitive
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