• Windows 8
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[QUOTE=Panda X;36538897]Going from XP to 8 would be quite the odd experience.[/QUOTE] They will all bitch and then demand XP be supported longer. Microsoft will then proceed to tell them all fuck you get on 7 you old fucks.
Yeah they should definitely offer XP -> 7, because I know a lot of people who won't have the patience to learn 8.
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;36539544]Yeah they should definitely offer XP -> 7, because I know a lot of people who won't have the patience to learn 8.[/QUOTE] In all honesty they've been out of the loop for a long while and it's completely their responsibility to catch up. It is going to take some getting used to, but that's what you get when you stay behind. I don't believe it's Windows' fault.
I doubt there will be very many people on XP that have computers good enough to run 8 that haven't already upgraded, but do plan on upgrading.
For the last 4 weeks I have been using Windows 8 on my laptop (Some C2D at 2Ghz and a 8600GT) which I use as a media-center computer and I love it. With large DPI, the Metro start menu is a joy to use on my TV-screen and it is very easy to navigate with the wireless keyboard I use. The system runs good and it starts up extremely fast. Great job Microsoft. I still can't see the real benefit of the Metro start on a desktop though.
Just installed Windows 8 Release Preview. The DVD drive is finally working. Fuck yeah.
I'm considering dual booting Windows 8 preview with Windows 7. I've set up dual boots between 7 and various Linux distros before, but is there anything special I'll need to know? [editline]29th June 2012[/editline] Also are there any reputable torrents available for the dev preview? Because I really don't like downloading such large files through Firefox and I don't trust TPB for OS images.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;36550934]I'm considering dual booting Windows 8 preview with Windows 7. I've set up dual boots between 7 and various Linux distros before, but is there anything special I'll need to know? [editline]29th June 2012[/editline] Also are there any reputable torrents available for the dev preview? Because I really don't like downloading such large files through Firefox and I don't trust TPB for OS images.[/QUOTE] If you choose 7 on the OS selection screen, your PC [B]reboots [/B]into 7.
[QUOTE=Darkwater124;36551168]If you choose 7 on the OS selection screen, your PC [B]reboots [/B]into 7.[/QUOTE] I'm not entirely sure I understand the significance of that.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;36551407]I'm not entirely sure I understand the significance of that.[/QUOTE] It's annoying and takes longer. Any time you want to go into 7 you must first boot into 8 and tell it to boot into 7. You can set 7 as the default OS in msconfig and it'll go back to the original dual boot method.
and if your hard drive is gay as my laptop's one, it'll ask you to perform a disk check everytime you do that.
Anyone that has the freezing issue (Panda?), an official fix has been found. [b]Workaround for Windows 8 freezing issues[/b] An official workaround, courtesy of Microsoft Senior SDET hero Tripp Parks, is now available for those experiencing Windows 8 freezing issues. Simply open an elevated command prompt, issue the following command, and reboot: [i]bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes[/i] Seems to have fixed it for me.
Curious as to what this dynamic tick is.
i'd try it but i'm literally leaving for 2 weeks in 6 hours so i'll just put it in notepad
[quote]Belkin F5D8053 N Wireless USB Adapter not compatible[/quote] so is this a false negative or if I go to win8 will I be dead in the water
Ordering a laptop this week, planning on upgrading it to 8 later. Anybody know how that is supposed to work? I read that there is a $15 upgrade option from Microsoft, but how do I access it? Also, is a SSD really necessary to store the OS on? Are the boot times really that much faster on it? And do I get any other benefits?
[QUOTE=Elements;36561642]Ordering a laptop this week, planning on upgrading it to 8 later. Anybody know how that is supposed to work? I read that there is a $15 upgrade option from Microsoft, but how do I access it? Also, is a SSD really necessary to store the OS on? Are the boot times really that much faster on it? And do I get any other benefits?[/QUOTE] You boot your laptop, you get a drink, and it's done when you come back. So yea, SSD really makes it much faster.
[QUOTE=Elements;36561642] Also, is a SSD really necessary to store the OS on? Are the boot times really that much faster on it? And do I get any other benefits?[/QUOTE] Im booting win7 in about 17 seconds, thats counting from when I push the button, SSDs are the greatest thing ever for boot times, plus there cheap if you get a relativity small one so you can even put a game or two on it
[QUOTE=der_crow;36562144]Im booting win7 in about 17 seconds, thats counting from when I push the button, SSDs are the greatest thing ever for boot times, plus there cheap if you get a relativity small one so you can even put a game or two on it[/QUOTE] Yeah, a 64GB one is fairly cheap now as a boot drive + essential disk-intensive apps, like Photoshop. Just make sure you set Photoshop's scratch disk to something else, not the SSD.
[QUOTE=Darkwater124;36561760]You boot your laptop, you get a drink, and it's done when you come back. So yea, SSD really makes it much faster.[/QUOTE] More like you boot your laptop then use it. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5EJBhso_cI[/media] The laptop on that video boots from an SSD IIRC. It still boots pretty fast on a HDD as well. I get about twenty-something seconds on my old computer that still just has a HDD. On my main computer with an SSD, though, it boots in pretty much an instant.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;36562525]More like you boot your laptop then use it. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5EJBhso_cI[/media] The laptop on that video boots from an SSD IIRC. It still boots pretty fast on a HDD as well. I get about twenty-something seconds on my old computer that still just has a HDD. On my main computer with an SSD, though, it boots in pretty much an instant.[/QUOTE] ..it took much longer for me to boot a fresh Win8 installation and I don't think it'd be that much faster if I were to switch to SSD. I think there's something special about that laptop.
[QUOTE=Darkwater124;36562560]I don't think it'd be that much faster if I were to switch to SSD.[/QUOTE] It would.
[QUOTE=horsedrowner;36562652]It would.[/QUOTE] Comparing the startup speeds of Win7 on my laptop with SSD and my desktop with HDD that's a huge difference then, if that's true.
So ive learned that Win8 gives a crap load of false positives for programs (apps) my wifi stick words just fine despite what it said earlier So as another thing, im in a bit of a situation im running 1920x1080 and its not filling my entire screen, got some sick black boarder all around, when I lower the res it fills the screen but thats only a temp fix, anyone know ways for fixing this?
So is there anyway to make this useless OS work on screens that are under 1024x768? I installed this on a netbook, 1024x600.. and Windows Metro "Apps" or whatever gimmicky name they're called, aren't allowed to run at this res.. Wasn't windows 8 supposed to run on phones or some shit? Why are they doing this. And also is there a way to use the search function without opening up the entire Metro shit? I'm reading something online, and when I need to read and type in the search thing at the same time like in windows 7 it's impossible.. How do I search the computer without leaving the desktop interface?
[QUOTE=theLazyLion;36563960]So is there anyway to make this useless OS work on screens that are under 1024x768? I installed this on a netbook, 1024x600.. and Windows Metro "Apps" or whatever gimmicky name they're called, aren't allowed to run at this res.. Wasn't windows 8 supposed to run on phones or some shit? Why are they doing this. And also is there a way to use the search function without opening up the entire Metro shit? I'm reading something online, and when I need to read and type in the search thing at the same time like in windows 7 it's impossible.. How do I search the computer without leaving the desktop interface?[/QUOTE] Windows 8 was never meant to run on phones, we have Windows Phone 7/8 for that. It was meant to provide one OS for both desktop and tablet use. And tablets actually tend to have quite high resolutions due to a higher pixel density than a normal monitor. So a Metro app will run on them fine. And no, the search function is part of the Start Screen/ Explorer, you can search from Explorer if you really want to, but the Start Screen would be infinitely easier. You can't remove the Start Screen, but you can get Start Menu applications to recreate the functionality of it, so you'll just have to find and install one of those.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;36564123]Windows 8 was never meant to run on phones, we have Windows Phone 7/8 for that. It was meant to provide one OS for both desktop and tablet use. And tablets actually tend to have quite high resolutions due to a higher pixel density than a normal monitor. So a Metro app will run on them fine. And no, the search function is part of the Start Screen/ Explorer, you can search from Explorer if you really want to, but the Start Screen would be infinitely easier. You can't remove the Start Screen, but you can get Start Menu applications to recreate the functionality of it, so you'll just have to find and install one of those.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the info, rolling back windows 7 on this netbook.
[QUOTE=theLazyLion;36564144]Thanks for the info, rolling back windows 7 on this netbook.[/QUOTE] I can see why it'd be a pain to use on netbooks when you mention the resolution being that small. Perhaps MS didn't quite think that through.
[QUOTE=Panda X;36559436]Curious as to what this dynamic tick is.[/QUOTE] [quote=Rafael Rivera] Very generally speaking, (I’m not a hardware expert), your PC’s processor — like a clock — ticks at a certain rate. These ticks are received by the OS to perform various tasks and push paper around. When your PC is idle, however, this constant ticking and interrupting of the OS eats time and power. Cue dynamic ticking. This new concept involves the processor coalescing or batching together ticks when idle, only delivering them when a more interesting event occurs. In other words, the processor gets to hit the snooze button a few more times before waking up. [/quote] [editline]30th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Darkwater124;36562560]I don't think it'd be that much faster if I were to switch to SSD. I think there's something special about that laptop.[/QUOTE] I have a SSD in my desktop. Windows [b]doesn't even show the boot screen for a second[/b] it starts so fast. It's BIOS, flash of the "Windows" logo, lock screen. All in less than 3 seconds after the BIOS.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;36564200]I can see why it'd be a pain to use on netbooks when you mention the resolution being that small. Perhaps MS didn't quite think that through.[/QUOTE] I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark and guess at some point there's gonna be some kinda KB update/patch that fixes the issue, or at least adds ????x600 to the list of usable resolutions. I have a gut feeling that a lot of things are gonna get patched.
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