• New gaming PC - $4,000 maximum limit
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I think an i7 930, a 5850, 5870, GTX 470, or 480 and 6GB RAM is about the limit for maintaining sanity. Above that point I reckon it becomes a big waste of money. By the way, what is the most demanding thing this PC is going to have to do? And at what monitor res?
It was just proving a point, if it was my computer I would buy an i7-875k and overclock the hell out of it.
[QUOTE=Romis;22329945]Great. So it's ok to sleep with the reservoir running? [/QUOTE] Reservoirs do not run, they are containers that hold coolant. Pumps run and make very little noise I might add. The only time the Res is going to be noisy is if you have a front 5.25x2 waterfall res, Those defeat the purpose of WC for noise.
This is what I would get for myself if I had 3,000 dollars to spend. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139002[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102887[/url] * 2 [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817814019[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231336[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116368[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154011[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148348[/url] It comes to 2,777 dollars for a corsair 700D, two 5970s, 1100-watt gold-certified power supply, 4 gigabytes of 2000 6-9-6-24-2N RAM, an i7-875k, tuniq tower 120 extreme, and a realSSD C300 128 gigabyte SSD. I probably wouldn't use any other hard drive, just the SSD, as I don't actually use much space. I'm a very minimalistic person. This computer I use has a 750 gigabyte hard drive and it shows up as 657 of 698 gigabytes free. Hell, I might buy two of them and put them in raid 0.
no points getting an i7 875, either a 920 or an i5 That psu sucks OP RAM Shitty SSD, get OCZ
[QUOTE=derlicious;22331113]no points getting an i7 875, either a 920 or an i5 That psu sucks OP RAM Shitty SSD, get OCZ[/QUOTE] Crucial ssds are some of the best.
[QUOTE=derlicious;22331113]no points getting an i7 875, either a 920 or an i5 That psu sucks OP RAM Shitty SSD, get OCZ[/QUOTE] Almost every argument (or lack of one) you had is stupid. That SSD has been reviewed and rated the fastest (sata) SSD out right now, roughly on par with the X25-M Generation 2 series. The PSU is fine. The RAM is fine. Do you think I just choose parts and not even bother to google them and look them up on tomshardware? [url]http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/6gb-s-ssd-hdd,2603.html[/url] "For example, Crucial’s RealSSD C300 and the Intel X25-M G2 provide the highest I/O performance"
yeh but OCZ and intel are better
[QUOTE=derlicious;22331289]yeh but OCZ and intel are better[/QUOTE] No they aren't. Besides you are just being a brand fanboy rather than looking at the individual product.
[QUOTE=Romis;22329566]Not merely as much as the fans, right?[/QUOTE] you still have fans pushing air through the radiator
[QUOTE=Romis;22328287]Because I want to be able to clock my GPU and CPU a lot. Also, I hate the fucking noise from the fans. I want to be able to sleep with the computer turned on.[/QUOTE] ok then that sets your budget back another $500 at the least
I've looked at the video, and decided with this build: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D - $300 Intel Core i7 920 - $270 Asus Rampage II Extreme - $415 Asus Radeon HD 5970 (Dual GPU) - $770 Corsair Dominator GT DDR3-2000 CL7 6 GB - $440 Creative X-FI TITANIUM FATAL1TY champ - $245 Zalman ZM-MFC3 - $90 Chieftec A-135 Series 1000W PSU - $220 CoolIT OMNI Interposer Plate AMD HD5970 - $85 Watercool Heatkiller LT 3.0 CPU - $80 I am not sure of what reservoir/pum etc I need. Rough estimate: $2915
[QUOTE=Romis;22339039]I've looked at the video, and decided with this build: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D - $300 Intel Core i7 920 - $270 Asus Rampage II Extreme - $415 Asus Radeon HD 5970 (Dual GPU) - $770 Corsair Dominator GT DDR3-2000 CL7 6 GB - $440 Creative X-FI TITANIUM FATAL1TY champ - $245 Zalman ZM-MFC3 - $90 Chieftec A-135 Series 1000W PSU - $220 CoolIT OMNI Interposer Plate AMD HD5970 - $85 Watercool Heatkiller LT 3.0 CPU - $80 I am not sure of what reservoir/pum etc I need. Rough estimate: $2915[/QUOTE] For A Pump get an M655 or M655B(50-80$) and dont get a res just put in a T-line, a T adapter is only like 10 bucks for an acrylic one. You also need a RAD don't you? (And the swiftech apogee XT is better than the HK LT).
They don't sell the Swiftech Apogee XT anywhere in Norway. Is a T-Line a sort of reservoir? How do I keep the water from getting warmer? Does a pump supply the water with cooling? What's a RAD?
I think you should stay well away from watercooling just buy decent but quiet fans instead
Jesus christ, looking at those parts and how overpriced they are you'd probably get better value from bloody Alienware. I put together $1800 builds on newegg that were better than this.
Again, I live in Norway. It may be the best country to live in, but everything is overpriced.
Is it because you're not in EU or what? I live right next door and there's no way that would be 4000 USD.
Probably, I have no idea. Those parts are 2900 dollars after my estimate. Or 18913 Norwegian kroner. I still need help to find a reservoir. Would it be better with a T-Line and run tubing to my waterblocks?
You norwegian people have too many money to spend on nothing.. *Angry Dane rambling about how much oil Norway got from the Northsea-deal* That is way too many money to spend on a PC.. Why the hell would you have your computer on while you sleep anyway? With a SSD, it'll startup like powder in contact with a bazing firestorm! Use like 2500$ at max, and upgrade your computer later, for the rest of the money! Computers gets outdated very fast you now, it won't still be the shit in, like, two years! I know you well may have your arse full of money, but this is like throwing moey out of a window.
Dude i leave my computer on at night and i don't notice it and its a CM690 II pimped out with 10 big fans... Trust me, when you go to bed it will NOT annoy you
I know they get outdated, that's why I want a overclock friendly computer, so I can push my hardware really far. That's also why I am going for watercooling. [editline]02:50PM[/editline] I changed some things, here is the new build: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D - $300 Intel Core i7 920 - $270 EVGA X58 SLI LE, Socket-1366 - $300 Asus Radeon HD 5970 (Dual GPU) - $770 Corsair Dominator TWIN3X DDR3-1600 6 GB (3x2GB) - $240 Zalman ZM-MFC3 - $90 Chieftec A-135 Series 1000W PSU - $220 CoolIT OMNI Interposer Plate AMD HD5970 - $85 Watercool Heatkiller LT 3.0 CPU - $80 OCZ Vertex 2 100 GB - $480 OCZ XTC Cooler - $12 Rough estimate - $2847 [ [b]Which leaves $353 to spend on watercooling. Is that possible?[/b] ] [editline]02:51PM[/editline] I still need help to find a good complete watercooling set, and I don't mind changing the already chosen waterblocks. I need pump + waterblocks + tubing + reservoir / t-line
[QUOTE=Collin665;22331267]That SSD has been reviewed and rated the fastest (sata) SSD out right now[/QUOTE] Actually its pretty much on a par with the new SandForce based SSDs. And it has had a few reliability problems too, im not saying its rubbish or anything, I was thinking of getting one recently, but the new SandForce SSDs would be a better bet. [editline]03:08PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Romis;22343356] Corsair Obsidian Series 800D - $300 Intel Core i7 920 - $270 EVGA X58 SLI LE, Socket-1366 - $300 Asus Radeon HD 5970 (Dual GPU) - $770 Corsair Dominator GT DDR3-2000 CL7 6 GB - $440 Zalman ZM-MFC3 - $90 Chieftec A-135 Series 1000W PSU - $220 CoolIT OMNI Interposer Plate AMD HD5970 - $85 Watercool Heatkiller LT 3.0 CPU - $80 OCZSSD2-1VTXT120G Vertex Turbo - $470 OCZ XTC Cooler - $12[/QUOTE] Change that Vertex turbo to a Vertex 2, its way, way better. How much are you looking to spend on all the watercooling?
[QUOTE=derlicious;22325868]Dude SLi GTX 480 will not get out dated for another 5+ Years Even 8 seeming the rate we are making technological advances and the limit of actual power you can have.[/QUOTE] My GTX 280's have been "outdated" for a year now. Doesn't mean I need anything else right now but you guys seem to think that buying the top of the line GPU means you're set to be king for years, that isn't the case. Also don't spend that kind of money on a tower, If I spent $4k on a machine, I'd buy a nice shiny new 30" display, a top of the line PC (no water-cooling, that's useless) and all the peripherals to round off the deal.
Lol, I sleep with a loud ass fan at night cause silence bothers me when trying to sleep.
Go for Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 6 GB instead, for less of 200 dollars at least. The difference is barely nothing.
[QUOTE=ADT;22345257]Go for Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 6 GB instead, for less of 200 dollars at least. The difference is barely nothing.[/QUOTE] Thanks, I was wondering if it was a bit overkill. Do I still need to buy memory coolers then? Not that 12 dollars is that much. [editline]04:42PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Milky;22344885]Actually its pretty much on a par with the new SandForce based SSDs. And it has had a few reliability problems too, im not saying its rubbish or anything, I was thinking of getting one recently, but the new SandForce SSDs would be a better bet. [editline]03:08PM[/editline] Change that Vertex turbo to a Vertex 2, its way, way better. How much are you looking to spend on all the watercooling?[/QUOTE] I will thanks. I'm looking to spend $300 - $550. I don't know the entire cost yet, though. Anything else I should think of/change?
The Coolermaster HAF X seems to be a real beauty case (and big!), for 200$/180€. But it depends of your opinion of course. In my side, I love this case. The memory cooler is useless if you don't want to overclock your RAM, which is more useless.
Here is the build I am on right now, let me know if I can make any changes to the build. Corsair Obsidian Series 800D - $300 Intel Core i7 920 - $270 EVGA X58 SLI LE, Socket-1366 - $300 Asus Radeon HD 5970 (Dual GPU) - $770 Corsair Dominator TWIN3X DDR3-1600 6 GB (3x2GB) - $240 Zalman ZM-MFC3 - $90 Chieftec A-135 Series 1000W PSU - $220 CoolIT OMNI Interposer Plate AMD HD5970 - $85 Watercool Heatkiller LT 3.0 CPU - $80 OCZ Vertex 2 100 GB - $480 Rough estimate - $2835 [ [b]Which leaves $353 to spend on watercooling. Is that possible?[/b] ] Immediate quesitions: - How many 120mm fans does the top outlet of the case hold? For the rad I mean. - Do I place the rad on the top of the case? Right underneith the top point, where the grill is. - How big of a tank do I need? - How much Flow rate / head pressure do I need for this build? - 3/8 or 1/2 tubing? - Do I want silicon for my tubing?
Besides, don't know about the watercooling management of HAF X. [editline]04:49PM[/editline] Ninja'd
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