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[QUOTE=Rixxz2;53011875]Something like this maybehaps? Slightly cheaper if you choose to re-use your current case, obviously [URL="https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NsJwM8"]https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NsJwM8 [/URL][/QUOTE] Thank you! Is the PSU strong enough if I decide to go dual GPUs + add more ram in the future? And does the mobo support dual GPUs?
For perspective, her laptop had a Pentium T4500 running at 2.3ghz with 3GB of Memory and she would say that it runs ‘just fine’. My main goal is having something that lasts. We could always add more RAM down the line if need be. We still have the HDD from the laptop along with a spare 500GB drive I have. Spare video card to slap in it too. I’m iffy on refurbs due to part lifespan. Also, does Dell still use proprietary hardware that would keep us from upgrading their desktops?
[QUOTE=Shock_Coil;53016696]For perspective, her laptop had a Pentium T4500 running at 2.3ghz with 3GB of Memory and she would say that it runs ‘just fine’. My main goal is having something that lasts. We could always add more RAM down the line if need be. We still have the HDD from the laptop along with a spare 500GB drive I have. Spare video card to slap in it too. I’m iffy on refurbs due to part lifespan. Also, does Dell still use proprietary hardware that would keep us from upgrading their desktops?[/QUOTE] Yes but you can replace the mobo. It's a socketed CPU. I've never known a cpu to last less than 8 years, longevity shouldn't be much of an issue since its only 4 ish years old. First thing that could break would be the HDD then maybe psu. Both pretty cheap replacements. Pre-built or refurb would definitely be the best route to go down
Any particular sites for refurbs I should be looking into other than Newegg?
[QUOTE=Shock_Coil;53016781]Any particular sites for refurbs I should be looking into other than Newegg?[/QUOTE] Ex government PC sales on eBay is where I got mine
[QUOTE=Relaxation;53016548]Thank you! Is the PSU strong enough if I decide to go dual GPUs + add more ram in the future? And does the mobo support dual GPUs?[/QUOTE] It will handle more memory without any problems, but while the motherboard supports Crossfire, due to it being a 16/4 configuration, it does not support SLI, you'll also need a beefier power supply for that. Should also be noted that the GTX 1060 does not support SLI, you'll need to move up to a 1070 for that. I personally recommend against multi-GPU solutions for gaming over all, it's generally not at all worth it
So my current case is kind of broken and I'll be moving across the country. I'm looking for a new case for my current computer. I have a mini itx motherboard with a 10.12" gtx 970. also ssd and hdd. I was wondering if I should just go with whatever is most popular on pcpp something like "Corsair - 250D" or if there was a nice looking small case out there, a recommendation would be nice. Nothing really special about my current computer. not looking to upgrade anything. just need new case [url]https://pcpartpicker.com/user/jung3o/saved/P9Mrxr[/url]
[QUOTE=jung3o;53019151]So my current case is kind of broken and I'll be moving across the country. I'm looking for a new case for my current computer. I have a mini itx motherboard with a 10.12" gtx 970. also ssd and hdd. I was wondering if I should just go with whatever is most popular on pcpp something like "Corsair - 250D" or if there was a nice looking small case out there, a recommendation would be nice. Nothing really special about my current computer. not looking to upgrade anything. just need new case [url]https://pcpartpicker.com/user/jung3o/saved/P9Mrxr[/url][/QUOTE] Silverstone sugo SG13 looks good in person, real cheap too.
[QUOTE=LAMB SAUCE;53019993]Silverstone sugo SG13 looks good in person, real cheap too.[/QUOTE] oo that looks sweet. Thanks! happy new years!
My friend is looking to build a new PC (Can't salvage anything from the old one, Phenom II x3 445, 4GB DDR3 something, GT 630, IDE optical drive) He mostly does CAD drawing but also wants to play some games on it if possible, so I put together this: [img]https://i.imgur.com/WRxB3gz.png[/img] Also considered a MSI B250M PRO-VD with i5-7400 but that is a little more expensive and won't overclock. i3-8100 would be faster than the Ryzen 3 1200, but Z370 motherboards start at ~115 eur. Maybe wait for the budget chipsets which should be released soon-ish? Currently with 2x 8GB DDR4-2400, not sure if that's worth it for him, maybe just go with a single 8GB DIMM? Lastly considered the RX 560 but it's slower than a 1050 Ti and also pretty much the same price
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;53020297]My friend is looking to build a new PC (Can't salvage anything from the old one, Phenom II x3 445, 4GB DDR3 something, GT 630, IDE optical drive) He mostly does CAD drawing but also wants to play some games on it if possible, so I put together this: [img]https://i.imgur.com/WRxB3gz.png[/img] Also considered a MSI B250M PRO-VD with i5-7400 but that is a little more expensive and won't overclock. i3-8100 would be faster than the Ryzen 3 1200, but Z370 motherboards start at ~115 eur. Maybe wait for the budget chipsets which should be released soon-ish? Currently with 2x 8GB DDR4-2400, not sure if that's worth it for him, maybe just go with a single 8GB DIMM? Lastly considered the RX 560 but it's slower than a 1050 Ti and also pretty much the same price[/QUOTE] I would shoot for 16GB RAM, 8GB is the new baseline. I don't know euro pricing but you could go for a cheaper 500-ish watt PSU from EVGA or another reputable brand without the corsair meme tax.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;53020819]I would shoot for 16GB RAM, 8GB is the new baseline. I don't know euro pricing but you could go for a cheaper 500-ish watt PSU from EVGA or another reputable brand without the corsair meme tax.[/QUOTE] Everything in that range hovers around €60 so no real meaningful difference
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;53022167]Everything in that range hovers around €60 so no real meaningful difference[/QUOTE] I'd rather deal with EVGA's support than Corsairs tbh. Not a bad unit though, kinda surprising for a midrange one made by Great Wall.
So, I'm looking to upgrade my PC in terms of CPU, GPU, RAM and MB and this is what I ended up with [t]https://puu.sh/yTzt5/046f8ee808.png[/t] and this is the new stuff with rest of my computer that I already own [t]https://puu.sh/yTzBN/e2e9ffb5c1.png[/t] Any advice on what to change? [editline]3rd January 2018[/editline] Also apparently my CPU cooler Hyper Evo 212 might not fit with the new MB so if you guys could recommend similar other option, that'd be grand.
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;53024866]So, I'm looking to upgrade my PC in terms of CPU, GPU, RAM and MB and this is what I ended up with [t]https://puu.sh/yTzt5/046f8ee808.png[/t] and this is the new stuff with rest of my computer that I already own [t]https://puu.sh/yTzBN/e2e9ffb5c1.png[/t] Any advice on what to change? [editline]3rd January 2018[/editline] Also apparently my CPU cooler Hyper Evo 212 might not fit with the new MB so if you guys could recommend similar other option, that'd be grand.[/QUOTE] For the 212 Evo, I thought you could contact Cooler Master for the bracket. Otherwise, MicroCenter has it: [URL]http://www.microcenter.com/product/477351/AM4_Socket_X_Mounting_Bracket[/URL] (See also: [URL]http://www.coolermaster.com/amd-am4-ryzen-compatability/en/[/URL]) If you want to pull the trigger on it now, I've found the 1600's cooler to be adequate at stock. Personally, I'd go for at least two sticks of RAM (partly for aesthetics, partly for Dual-Channel). Ideally, two sticks of 8GB each. I find 8GB to be a bit anemic, while 16GB gives me some breathing room. Maybe higher RAM speeds would be beneficial (Samsung B-die, I think). I haven't overclocked my 1600 or 1700 yet, so I don't have firsthand experience to throw out there. Edit: I used Corsair CMK16GX4M2C3000C16 and GSkill F4-3600C16D-16GTZ in my builds. The former hit 2933 and the latter hit 3333.
[QUOTE=Rand0mNumber;53025990]For the 212 Evo, I thought you could contact Cooler Master for the bracket. Otherwise, MicroCenter has it: [URL]http://www.microcenter.com/product/477351/AM4_Socket_X_Mounting_Bracket[/URL] (See also: [URL]http://www.coolermaster.com/amd-am4-ryzen-compatability/en/[/URL]) If you want to pull the trigger on it now, I've found the 1600's cooler to be adequate at stock. Personally, I'd go for at least two sticks of RAM (partly for aesthetics, partly for Dual-Channel). Ideally, two sticks of 8GB each. I find 8GB to be a bit anemic, while 16GB gives me some breathing room. Maybe higher RAM speeds would be beneficial (Samsung B-die, I think). I haven't overclocked my 1600 or 1700 yet, so I don't have firsthand experience to throw out there. Edit: I used Corsair CMK16GX4M2C3000C16 and GSkill F4-3600C16D-16GTZ in my builds. The former hit 2933 and the latter hit 3333.[/QUOTE] I forgot to mention I'm aiming for a budget build so I'm somewhat restrained in terms of spending money. I was thinking about two sticks of RAM, 8GB each since even as a fairly casual user, I can feel the restraints with only 8, but right now the prices are really extreme here. 269$ for a pair. So I decided on either one stick of 8GB or 2 sticks of 4GB for now until, hopefully at some point, the prices drop to something more reasonable But yeah, I'll look for something with higher speeds, thanks for the tip. Also thanks for the info on the bracket for my 212. I really like this this cooler so I'd be happy to stick with it.
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;53026264]I forgot to mention I'm aiming for a budget build so I'm somewhat restrained in terms of spending money. I was thinking about two sticks of RAM, 8GB each since even as a fairly casual user, I can feel the restraints with only 8, but right now the prices are really extreme here. 269$ for a pair. So I decided on either one stick of 8GB or 2 sticks of 4GB for now until, hopefully at some point, the prices drop to something more reasonable But yeah, I'll look for something with higher speeds, thanks for the tip. Also thanks for the info on the bracket for my 212. I really like this this cooler so I'd be happy to stick with it.[/QUOTE] If you can't afford high speed, it's not a performance killer to not have it. It does give a boost to minimum and avg framerates, but it's not a huge boost. You will want 16GB of RAM for sure, and a 2400 kit would do you just fine. My corsair 3600 sticks hit the platform max of 3200 just fine, but some don't. Your best bet is G.Skill.
[QUOTE][B]CPU:[/B] AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Amazon Canada) [B]Motherboard:[/B] MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($115.00 @ Vuugo) [B]Storage:[/B] Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($113.99 @ PC Canada) x2 Samsung Spinpoint 3.5 1TB HDDs (Free) [B]Video Card:[/B] EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($369.99 @ Memory Express) [B]Power Supply:[/B]EVGA - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ PC Canada) [B]Case:[/B] Corsair Carbide 200R [B]Ram:[/B]??? Current: $960[/QUOTE] Trying to keep this under $1200 CAD, I don't know what RAM to add to it, I need a lot (see below) I have two extra hard drives I need to plug in as well, they're old Samsung Spinpoints sitting in a cupboard. I kind of need to add them as well, will this be good enough? I need to for quite heavyweight games art development, so Maya, Unreal Engine 4, Substance Painter & baking programs, Photoshop and other intense programs running at the same time so I need to burn through some intense programs quite a lot. I also need it kind of small to move around a fair amount and eventually put inside an RV.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;53028072]Trying to keep this under $1200 CAD, I don't know what RAM to add to it, I need a lot (see below) I have two extra hard drives I need to plug in as well, they're old Samsung Spinpoints sitting in a cupboard. I kind of need to add them as well, will this be good enough? I need to for quite heavyweight games art development, so Maya, Unreal Engine 4, Substance Painter & baking programs, Photoshop and other intense programs running at the same time so I need to burn through some intense programs quite a lot. I also need it kind of small to move around a fair amount and eventually put inside an RV.[/QUOTE] The Tomahawk has only 4 SATA ports, and the most I've seen on B350 is 6. So if all you've got is 3 drives and an optical or something you should be OK. Like I told Dom the high speed RAM is good, but not 100% necessary. By the sound of it you'd do best on 32GB in a 2x16 or 4x8 config. Neither of those configs will go above 2666MHz on Ryzen, doesnt matter if it's hynix or samsung B-die. High speed only works on 2-DIMM configs and the 16GB DIMMs all have some other technical bullshit that prevents high speed operation. It's seriously the biggest drawback to ryzen aside from the OCing being mediocre, especially because it scales so well with memory speed.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;53029104]The Tomahawk has only 4 SATA ports, and the most I've seen on B350 is 6. So if all you've got is 3 drives and an optical or something you should be OK. Like I told Dom the high speed RAM is good, but not 100% necessary. By the sound of it you'd do best on 32GB in a 2x16 or 4x8 config. Neither of those configs will go above 2666MHz on Ryzen, doesnt matter if it's hynix or samsung B-die. High speed only works on 2-DIMM configs and the 16GB DIMMs all have some other technical bullshit that prevents high speed operation. It's seriously the biggest drawback to ryzen aside from the OCing being mediocre, especially because it scales so well with memory speed.[/QUOTE] No 2x16 goes to 2800 fine, I can get it to 2966 if I don't OC the CPU. [editline]6th January 2018[/editline] But 2966 + CPU overclock doesn't POST.
[url]https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/CES-2018-AMD-Drops-Ryzen-CPU-Prices-30-Percent[/url] yeet
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