• How powerful will the next gen of consoles be?
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I don't know. It's mostly important because i want my pc to be equal too or better than the next consoles. But also.. i think they need a certain capability to be wanted and a certain price to be buyable. I think many are happy with 360/ps3 graphics and the graphical leap will likely not be as big as the ps2 - ps3 jump.
From the rumored specs, crappy. But optimization and dev. magic amd games will look atleast 2x better (on consoles) Your current PC is probably a bit better than the new consoles.
Judging by the specs ATM decent, but by the time they get out they will be well outdated I believe most are x86 based now, which will be good, for ports. The graphics from what the "leaked specs" are should be pretty sizable compared to ps2 => and xbawx => 360. Of course once the official specs are released we will know for sure
radeon 6570 2gb 4gb ddr2 athlon II x4 Probably a little weaker than the next console.
This may be a little off-topic, but judging in te new iPad's screen resolution; I'm sure that sparked the eye of console makers so I'm sure they'll up the hardware to look better then it does now and be able to do 2000+ resolutions.
[QUOTE=KnightVista;35625976]This may be a little off-topic, but judging in te new iPad's screen resolution; I'm sure that sparked the eye of console makers so I'm sure they'll up the hardware to look better then it does now and be able to do 2000+ resolutions.[/QUOTE] That's all well and good, the current consoles are 1080p capable (not including Wii) but most games engines will render at half of that and upscale, so what will be the point? You will end up with the odd game that will take advantage of it, and every CoD game will continue to run at a shitty 960x540
[QUOTE=KnightVista;35625976]This may be a little off-topic, but judging in te new iPad's screen resolution; I'm sure that sparked the eye of console makers so I'm sure they'll up the hardware to look better then it does now and be able to do 2000+ resolutions.[/QUOTE] Won't happen until TV's with larger resolutions start showing up. What might happen though, is that the new consoles will support native 1080 on all their titles and won't have to upscale from 720 or even 480. And 1080 is the norm and it's going to be the norm for a pretty long time.
if 1080 is the norm now, and it's very common for games to render at a quarter of that and upscale, I have a feeling it'll be a while until there's going to be 2k+ games, or even commonplace 1080.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;35626726]Won't happen until TV's with larger resolutions start showing up. What might happen though, is that the new consoles will support native 1080 on all their titles and won't have to upscale from 720 or even 480. And 1080 is the norm and it's going to be the norm for a pretty long time.[/QUOTE] 1440p TVs are coming... The prices are also dropping. I've ran 1440p on my PC and then use a projector on the wall. Looked good.
The Wii proved you can dump shit hardware on people and make a killing. I expect the other two companies have made note of that.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;35627016]1440p TVs are coming... The prices are also dropping. I've ran 1440p on my PC and then use a projector on the wall. Looked good.[/QUOTE] TVs aren't shifting to 1440p, there'd be no content for it. Sharp has been working with NHK to make uHD the next step in TV picture quality, with a resolution of 7,680 × 4,320.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;35648646]TVs aren't shifting to 1440p, there'd be no content for it. Sharp has been working with NHK to make uHD the next step in TV picture quality, with a resolution of 7,680 × 4,320.[/QUOTE] Yeah, next TV resolution is 4k. I'm waiting for monitors to get to that too, that'll be great.
[QUOTE=ManningQB18;35652921]Yeah, next TV resolution is 4k. I'm waiting for monitors to get to that too, that'll be great.[/QUOTE] Don't monitors usually hit those resolutions before TVs?
More powerful than you can possibly imagine. Probably at least 3 years behind current PC technology more like it. Make that 5.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;35645443]The Wii proved you can dump shit hardware on people and make a killing. I expect the other two companies have made note of that.[/QUOTE] No, the Wii proved if you are the first person to dump shit hardware on people, you can make a killing. [img]http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/funny-pictures-141.jpg[/img] [editline]22nd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=The Jack;35625090]I don't know. It's mostly important because i want my pc to be equal too or better than the next consoles. But also.. i think they need a certain capability to be wanted and a certain price to be buyable. I think many are happy with 360/ps3 graphics and the graphical leap will likely not be as big as the ps2 - ps3 jump.[/QUOTE] Oh, and an answer for OP. When the new consoles come out, they will be a few months behind the current generation of PC hardware, possibly even more. It'll be middle-range hardware but game optimization will still make games look pretty good (at a low resolution). 1080P will most likely be standard, with a few devs perhaps making forays into higher resolutions (I.E: 1200P, 1440P)
[QUOTE=ManningQB18;35652921]Yeah, next TV resolution is 4k. I'm waiting for monitors to get to that too, that'll be great.[/QUOTE] 4k is 4096x2160, not 7680x4320.
The new generation may even be able to run the first Crysis on max without any lag
[QUOTE=superstepa;35681320]The new generation may even be able to run the first Crysis on max without any lag[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand that Crysis is an unoptimized piece of shit and is a horrible benchmark. How can you use a game that was poorly designed in all performance aspects as a benchmark? Crysis 2 runs much better and is just as beautiful, if not moreso. The reason is because Crytek learned that your game will just be super pirated if it isn't guaranteed to be playable, so they optimized the fuck out of it.
The first Crysis actually looks better on consoles due to the fact they used CryEngine 3 whilst the PC version uses CryEngine 2, however if they updated the PC version with CryEngine 3 then the PC version would look much better. Unfortunately consoles aren't going to die due to their simplicity. Portable consoles are dying because there's plenty of free games on your favorite smartphone that are literally 2 clicks away, however with computers many things need to change before the console crowd is going to be persuaded
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;35701827]The first Crysis actually looks better on consoles due to the fact they used CryEngine 3 whilst the PC version uses CryEngine 2, however if they updated the PC version with CryEngine 3 then the PC version would look much better. Unfortunately consoles aren't going to die due to their simplicity. Portable consoles are dying because there's plenty of free games on your favorite smartphone that are literally 2 clicks away, however with computers many things need to change before the console crowd is going to be persuaded[/QUOTE] No it doesn't look better. Using Cryengine 3 allowed improvements with lighting and better streaming, but the game doesn't look better. I've played it on the 360 and the resolution alone makes everything look noticeably blurry after playing it at 1920x1080 for years.
Well if you've been playing it in that resolution for years it's bound to. But under your logic, real life footage shown in standard definition looks worse than the first Half life played at 1920x1080
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;35711207]Well if you've been playing it in that resolution for years it's bound to. But under your logic, real life footage shown in standard definition looks worse than the first Half life played at 1920x1080[/QUOTE] Well it definitely looks muddier. But I see your point.
Powerful to run call of duty on 30 fps
[quote=TechRadar]'Latest rumours suggest that the console will contain a revision of AMD's 7000 series graphics, which is based on its 28nm Graphics Core Next (GCN) Southern Islands tech. Anonymous sources are being quoted on VG247 as saying that the graphics setup in the Xbox 720 will be "like two PCs taped together" which sounds like waffle to us. What does that even mean? The same sources say that the two GPUs in the Xbox 720 "aren't structured as they are in a normal dual PC set-up," with each chip working separately to draw different items simultaneously'[/quote] Meh, thats for the 720 [url]http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/xbox-720-release-date-news-and-rumours-937167[/url]
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;35711207]Well if you've been playing it in that resolution for years it's bound to. But under your logic, real life footage shown in standard definition looks worse than the first Half life played at 1920x1080[/QUOTE] No actually you just completely twisted my words. I was comparing THE SAME GAME with both the assets running at lower settings and the game itself running at a lower res. It's guaranteed to look worse with the resolution reduction alone.
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