• Building a brand new PC - help me with my build please
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Hello again, Facepunch. I'm starting from the beginning and I'm building a new PC. Before I buy though, I want to know what items I should discard and substitute for something better (and will also give me the most bang for my buck). I'm also wondering if there are any more items I should get/I need. My dad is giving me a new Windows 8 disc and I have a Samsung LED S24B300EL monitor and keyboard/mouse so I don't have to worry about those Here's the link since I don't feel like exporting it for post usage [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Gfmq7P[/url] I play a lot of Grand Strategy and FPS games but I also do a lot of Photoshop/SFM work
If youa re not doing professional photoshop sfm work an i5-4670K will suffice. Also a 600W psu is enough, and wouldnt you rather have the fans automatically controlled by your mobo?
Updated build: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/G2q4GX[/url] Would it be easy to put in a sound card after the main build is done?
If you have the money now, the Phantom 820 is dropping to 150$ on black friday at nzxt's shop and an evga g2 750w is on sale at newegg for 95$ - 25 MIR.
[QUOTE=RockmanYoshi;46587214] Would it be easy to put in a sound card after the main build is done?[/QUOTE] Yes
In contrast, here's the IED my dad built for me. [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wVxgpg[/url] This is [URL="https://www.google.com/search?q=hq+compaq+dx2000+tower&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=g1F5VLGGN4uaNu-mgFA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1920&bih=955"]the tower, first pic[/URL],[URL="http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P5G41TM_LX/"]and this is the mobo[/URL] and that video card comes close to having 1 GB. I'm pretty sure that he got some Chinese-made case fan/fan controller, and I don't know anything about where he got the memory from except that it's 4GB (2 sticks) dual-channel DDR3 @ 400Mhz 6-6-6-15 Which part should I upgrade first? I would also like to point out that the heatsink gets really hot, as well as the 2tb harddrive, psu, video card and cpu, and the 160gb HDD makes a lot of noise. [editline]28th November 2014[/editline] By the way, my PC did a crashrestart when I was watching a youtube video. Any parts that would be most likely to cause this?
You want to upgrade that HP machine? I wouldn't spend much money on it since the case looks like it has awful airflow. But you can get an E8400 for it on Ebay for around $20 that will give you 70%+ better performance over an E2180. And I'd get a better exhaust fan that moves more air since there's only one exhaust fan. And I'd also connect it directly to 12v power with one of those fan headers to molex adapters so it runs full speed all the time to keep things inside the case cooler. I don't know what size fan that is, but it looks like a 92mm fan which is one of the oddball sizes.
by the way, are Hitachi hard drives any good? The one I have right now seems unreliable but I don't want to lose all of my EU4 saves. [QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;46599452]You want to upgrade that HP machine? I wouldn't spend much money on it since the case looks like it has awful airflow. But you can get an E8400 for it on Ebay for around $20 that will give you 70%+ better performance over an E2180. And I'd get a better exhaust fan that moves more air since there's only one exhaust fan. And I'd also connect it directly to 12v power with one of those fan headers to molex adapters so it runs full speed all the time to keep things inside the case cooler. I don't know what size fan that is, but it looks like a 92mm fan which is one of the oddball sizes.[/QUOTE] It isn't an actual HP machine, but my dad took the case from it and used it for my PC.
[QUOTE=RockmanYoshi;46605088]by the way, are Hitachi hard drives any good? The one I have right now seems unreliable but I don't want to lose all of my EU4 saves.[/QUOTE] Hitachi drives are just the old IBM drive division with a new name since Hitachi bought them. IBM Deskstars used to be known as "Deathstars" so take that how you want it. [QUOTE=RockmanYoshi;46605088]It isn't an actual HP machine, but my dad took the case from it and used it for my PC.[/QUOTE] If the specs for your current PC are what you listed then you can do the upgrade I suggested, unless you want to buy an entirely new machine.
And now WD owns Hitachi. Personally I haven't had great experiences with their drives, but most of their failures I've seen have been in laptops.
Here's my new upgrade plan. [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NbYLjX[/url] I'm trying to find a cheaper case but with the same room and airflow.
The Phanteks Enthoo Pro is a great budget full tower. Any reason for a full tower when you don't have an eATX board or any reason for crazy cooling?
[QUOTE=Levelog;46608286]The Phanteks Enthoo Pro is a great budget full tower. Any reason for a full tower when you don't have an eATX board or any reason for crazy cooling?[/QUOTE] Better to have room for upgrade. [editline]30th November 2014[/editline] Anyways, I hope this is the finalized build before I buy. [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hMgFxr[/url] People have talked to me about getting an i5 instead but I don't really care, an i3 is miles better than a Pentium E2180 and there's only so much money I can spend.
Assuming you're planning on putting in a broadwell overclockable chip eventually, looks good.
[QUOTE=Levelog;46609689]Assuming you're planning on putting in a broadwell overclockable chip eventually, looks good.[/QUOTE] Thanks. I'm really iffy on the mobo and the video card, but it seems good. [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Q6hvmG[/url] I swapped out the 3.4ghz 4130 for a 3.5ghz 4150, which saved me 20-30 dollars
I mean if you never plan on buying a new processor to overclock with, get an H97 board.
You can also switch out the Hyper 212 Evo with a cheaper Zalman CNPS5X. You don't need such a massive cooler with such a processor.
[url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nFDfkL[/url] might get a cheaper cpu- anything better than a e2180? and i can salvage my gpu
You don't need a Z97 motherboard, your CPU can't be overclocked. Also, you need to remove the 212 Evo from your list since you have the Zalman in there. And any processor in the current generation is going to destroy an E2180.
is 620w necessary
[QUOTE=nettsam;46626695]is 620w necessary[/QUOTE] Nope, a high-quality 450W one would be more than enough for that system
ok remember i might upgrade this build again later, that's why i keep the large psu
[QUOTE=RockmanYoshi;46634319] remember i might upgrade this build again later, that's why i keep the large psu[/QUOTE] This one is a much better choice: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9[/url] [editline]4th December 2014[/editline] And yeah, get a cheap H97 motherboard
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46636501]This one is a much better choice: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9[/url] [editline]4th December 2014[/editline] And yeah, get a cheap H97 motherboard[/QUOTE] any good ones [editline]4th December 2014[/editline] [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zZmvmG[/url] Kinda skeptical on the 550W PSU seeing as that I had a 580W PSU that didn't meet up to my needs. Then again it was a Coolmax, and I heard that their PSU's aren't very great.
Coolmax PSUs are IEDs.
Unless you're planning to use SLI/Crossfire with two powerful graphics cards, a (good quality) 550W supply is more than enough.
Alright, here it is. [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cpVQBm[/url] This is actually more of an upgrade for my build, I got the mobo taken care of already. Would I be able to find the rest of these parts at your local technology store? (Frys, etc) Hopefully last question: are WD drives good enough to keep? I have a 120GB one that does the job but I'm wondering if I should just discard it.
Are you sure the motherboard supports Haswell Refresh processors? You might need to update the BIOS of it with an older processor to get it working
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46662846]Are you sure the motherboard supports Haswell Refresh processors? You might need to update the BIOS of it with an older processor to get it working[/QUOTE] Not sure, adding it back into my list. [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nyNjLk[/url] BTW my dad got me this for Christmas real early: Corsair HX Series HX750 PSU & an AeroCool StrikeX-GT Black ATX case. Are they good? edit: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YkxvmG[/url]
The power supply is really good, don't really know anything about the build quality and such of the case, but it'd definitely work
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