• Classical music discussion
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Right, this is how we're gonna do this. I know there are a few nuts like me who'd like to dig into this stuff. I do know that there are plenty of people here who know their stuff when it comes to these periods. As for me, I'm a noob and know nothing. :smug: Also MODERN CLASSICAL and Contemporary styles that are directly influenced by these periods count. [release] [h2]PERIODS: Medieval - (500–1400)[/h2] [img]http://img.ehowcdn.com/article-page-main/ehow/images/a07/uh/6h/use-gregorian-chant-800x800.jpg[/img] [B]Medieval music is European music written during the Middle Ages. This era begins with the fall of the Roman Empire and ends in approximately the early fifteenth century. Establishing the end of the medieval era and the beginning of the Renaissance is difficult; the usage in this article is the one usually adopted by musicologists. As I'm aware, this is basically the era of mainly GREGORIAN CHANTS and PLAINSONG. [/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kLu4_skcL0[/media] [h2]Renaissance - (1400–1600)[/h2] [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jLeGTWts6ww/R2fVbo6c7FI/AAAAAAAAATg/s6Dmk1Lc82U/s400/minstrels.gif[/img] [B]Renaissance music is European music written during the Renaissance. Defining the beginning of the musical era is difficult, given the gradually adopted "Renaissance" characteristics: musicologists have placed its beginnings from as early as 1300 to as late as the 1470s. The only names I recognize from this era are "Giovanni Gabrieli" and "William Byrd"[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-wacNu6GJw[/media] [h2]Baroque - (1600–1760)[/h2] [img]http://www.rhonealpes-tourisme.com/images/33198-1-0265-1-festivalmusiqueancienne.jpg[/img] [B]Baroque music describes a style of Western Classical music approximately extending from 1600 to 1750.[1] This era follows the Renaissance and was followed in turn by the Classical era. The word "baroque" came from the Portuguese word barroco, meaning "misshapen pearl",[2] a negative description of the ornate and heavily ornamented music of this period; later, the name came to be applied also to its architecture. Baroque music forms a major portion of the classical music canon, being widely studied, performed, and listened to. Composers of the baroque era include Johann Sebastian Bach, George Frideric Handel, Alessandro Scarlatti, Antonio Vivaldi, Georg Philipp Telemann, Jean-Baptiste Lully, Arcangelo Corelli, Claudio Monteverdi, Jean-Philippe Rameau and Henry Purcell. The baroque period saw the development of functional tonality. During the period, composers and performers used more elaborate musical ornamentation, made changes in musical notation, and developed new instrumental playing techniques. Baroque music expanded the size, range, and complexity of instrumental performance, and also established opera as a musical genre. Many musical terms and concepts from this era are still in use today.[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuw8YjSbKd4[/media] [h2]Classical - (1750–1830)[/h2] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Youth650.jpg/350px-Youth650.jpg[/img] [B]The dates of the Classical Period in Western music are generally accepted as being between about 1750 and 1830. However, the term classical music is used colloquially to describe a variety of Western musical styles from the ninth century to the present, and especially from the sixteenth or seventeenth to the nineteenth. This article is about the specific period from 1750 to 1830.[1] The Classical period falls between the Baroque and the Romantic periods. The best known composers from this period are Joseph Haydn, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Ludwig van Beethoven, and Franz Schubert; other notable names include Luigi Boccherini, Muzio Clementi, Antonio Soler, Antonio Salieri, François Joseph Gossec, Johann Stamitz, Carl Friedrich Abel, Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, and Christoph Willibald Gluck. Ludwig van Beethoven is also sometimes regarded either as a Romantic composer or a composer who was part of the transition to the Romantic; Franz Schubert is also something of a transitional figure, as are Johann Nepomuk Hummel, Mauro Giuliani, Friedrich Kuhlau, Fernando Sor, Luigi Cherubini, Jan Ladislav Dussek, and Carl Maria von Weber. The period is sometimes referred to as the era of Viennese Classic or Classicism (German: Wiener Klassik), since Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Joseph Haydn, and Ludwig van Beethoven all worked at some time in Vienna, and Franz Schubert was born there.[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suD0iGI4-cE[/media] [h2]Romantic - (1815–1910)[/h2] [img]http://s3.hubimg.com/u/122266_f520.jpg[/img] [B]Romantic music or music in the Romantic Period is a musicological and artistic term referring to a particular period, theory, compositional practice, and canon in Western music history, from about 1830 to 1910. Romantic music attempted to increase emotional expression and power to describe deeper truths or human feelings, while preserving but in many cases extending the formal structures from the classical period, in others, creating new forms that were deemed better suited to the new subject matter. The subject matter in the new music was now not only purely abstract, but also frequently drawn from other art-form sources such as literature, or history (historical figures) or nature itself.[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZMwlUnGrWc[/media] [h2]MODERN CLASSICAL[/h2] Yeah, this stuff is basically the contemporary stuff that is in movies. But there are a few good ones. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GHRftsdlVo[/media] Tell me you aren't moved by that. [/release] [img]http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2008/07/30/chopin460.jpg[/img][img]http://www.pianoparadise.com/bach.jpg[/img][img]http://www.lucidcafe.com/library/96jan/96jangifs/mozart.gif[/img] [img]http://boxset.ru/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/marriner_mozart_requiem_k.626.jpg[/img] [url]http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/wolfgang_amadeus_mozart/requiem__academy_and_chorus_of_st_martin_in_the_fields_sir_neville_marriner_/[/url] [img]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51uXaWsxPDL._SL500_AA280_.jpg[/img] [url]http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/frederic_chopin/24_preludes_op_28__maurizio_pollini__f1/[/url] Also, please comment on what you're recommending. Need the info, bro. :smith:
You could have atleast copied the first paragraph of each period into the OP with images
Carmina Burana by the Clemencic Consort is pretty much as old as it can get (as far as classical music "classics" go). [img]http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc515/hunterlucky1/4-10.jpg[/img] (it's cool) I like this too. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRa3REdozw&feature=related[/media]
[QUOTE=R. Cookie;30632127]You could have atleast copied the first paragraph of each period into the OP with images[/QUOTE] Okay I did it more bigger. :downs:
Tchaikovsky is where its at
It's quite the shame no recorded sheet music really exists from the pre-medieval era. I've always been curious about the musical pieces of antiquity, but they're far and very few in between.
well none really exist because the concept wasn't created until Gregorian chant
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;30632484]well none really exist because the concept wasn't created until Gregorian chant[/QUOTE] Well that's not true. Tribal music? [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] Native Americans and Aboriginal must have written some kind of account.
To answer the most recent question, apparently there are at least some existing pre-medieval music pieces (I haven't studied this section of music history that much). A small collection is here: [url]http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:People_from_the_Ancient_era[/url] For medieval music, here's an example of singing from the ripe old time of 569. [url=http://216.129.110.22/files/imglnks/usimg/5/5f/IMSLP99445-PMLP204264-Vex__lla_R__gis_Pr__deunt_with_alternate_lyrics.pdf]sheet music[/url] Composer is Venantius Honorius Clementianus Fortunatus (what a name)
[QUOTE=AK'z;30632562]Well that's not true. Tribal music? [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] Native Americans and Aboriginal must have written some kind of account.[/QUOTE] Not sure they did to be honest, judging by african cultures I reckon they were just learnt and passed down. Rennaisance piece for 40 part choir Spem in alium-Thomas Tallis [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJDLQZWKWe8&feature=related[/media]
[QUOTE=AK'z;30632562]Well that's not true. Tribal music? [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] Native Americans and Aboriginal must have written some kind of account.[/QUOTE] the concept of writing music. perhaps they had rhythmic notation but nothing more complex than that [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Shostakovich;30634702]To answer the most recent question, apparently there are at least some existing pre-medieval music pieces (I haven't studied this section of music history that much). A small collection is here: [url]http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:People_from_the_Ancient_era[/url] For medieval music, here's an example of singing from the ripe old time of 569. [url=http://216.129.110.22/files/imglnks/usimg/5/5f/IMSLP99445-PMLP204264-Vex__lla_R__gis_Pr__deunt_with_alternate_lyrics.pdf]sheet music[/url] Composer is Venantius Honorius Clementianus Fortunatus (what a name)[/QUOTE] that's obviously not the original composition though.
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;30635071]the concept of writing music. perhaps they had rhythmic notation but nothing more complex than that [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] that's obviously not the original composition though.[/QUOTE] Well if you wanted a manuscript, then no, it isn't the original composition.
Who are the best players of Chopin's work?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCmUEqN-wTw[/media] [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Shostakovich;30635156]Well if you wanted a manuscript, then no, it isn't the original composition.[/QUOTE] well where is it I wanna see it [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] also mitsuko is my waifu [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA7wxj5cw2o[/media] hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng! GLORIOUUUUUUS
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;30635454][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCmUEqN-wTw[/media] [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] well where is it I wanna see it [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] also mitsuko is my waifu [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA7wxj5cw2o[/media] hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng! GLORIOUUUUUUS[/QUOTE] Trying to find manuscript, apparently it's held in the British Library and no one's bothered to scan it yet. [url=http://microformguides.gale.com/Data/Download/2037001A.pdf]source, third page left side listing[/url] Edit: Also, for the Romantic Period, here's Faure playing his own Pavane: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUsGh2xYYQg[/media]
Listening to this album [img]http://cdn.hmvdigital.ca/static/img/sleeveart/00/002/197/0000219781_500.jpg[/img] [url]http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/johann_sebastian_bach/solo_and_double_violin_concertos__manze_podger_academy_of_ancient_music_/[/url] Sounds great. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVrzczjF73w[/media]
[QUOTE=Shostakovich;30635594]Trying to find manuscript, apparently it's held in the British Library and no one's bothered to scan it yet. [url=http://microformguides.gale.com/Data/Download/2037001A.pdf]source, third page left side listing[/url] Edit: Also, for the Romantic Period, here's Faure playing his own Pavane: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUsGh2xYYQg[/media][/QUOTE] I don't see anything saying 6th century on the third page.. [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP7RnuCmM00[/media] london philharmonic plays Egmont (beethoven)
[QUOTE=AK'z;30635331]Who are the best players of Chopin's work?[/QUOTE] Vladimir Ashkenazy, Anton Rubenstein, Krystian(not sure as to spelling here) Zimmerman.
[QUOTE=The Maestro;30635828]Vladimir Ashkenazy, Anton Rubenstein, Krystian(not sure as to spelling here) Zimmerman.[/QUOTE] This album will go on my list. :respek: [url]http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/frederic_chopin/nocturnes___4_ballades__vladimir_ashkenazy_/[/url] [img]http://store.universal-music.co.uk/content/ebiz/universalmusic/invt/s./1./v./0028945257921/0028945257921_medium.jpg[/img]
Rite of Spring That shit was too awesome for the past people's ears so instead the rioted and that's cool. Oh wait that's after 1910. Whatever it's still cool.
Although I've really grown out of Classical and Baroque in recent years I shall post some Bach as Bach is universal: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyABEniTRSw[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SXzYPjd9wQ&feature=related[/media] And now I shall share some Chopin, my personal favorite composer ever: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUJ_kfWPgF8[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arfYFtc7hlw[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYG-Q-TlC8E[/media] And now for a piece by Robert Schumann, which I'm currently learning: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-OMbkegi9Y[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD6cVCSSp-8&feature=related[/media] Just let me know if you want more :smile:
[QUOTE=The Maestro;30636021] Just let me know if you want more :smile:[/QUOTE] Any particular albums you know of that are any good? Like a collection of concertos?
[QUOTE=pie_is_good;30635965]Rite of Spring That shit was too awesome for the past people's ears so instead the rioted and that's cool.[/QUOTE] Have you heard of the scandal at Bosendorfer saal? It was a few weeks or so before the Rite of Spring riot, only whereas the audience for the Rite of Spring grew to like it, the music played at Bosendorfer Saal still offends some people today :v:
I think modern classical can count with this thread. It still has direct influences within a major period of music. :smug:
I can only play the first couple pages of this song. My dad helped teach me some of it a long time ago and it sunk in. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqeTFgFuVQs&fmt=37[/media]
[QUOTE=AK'z;30636110]Any particular albums you know of that are any good? Like a collection of concertos?[/QUOTE] I don't really know any certain albums, but if you'd like to check out any of the Columbia recordings of Mahler's symphonies under Bruno Walter, those are excellent. I'd especially reccomend symphony no.2 "Resurrection".
[QUOTE=AK'z;30636138]I think modern classical can count with this thread. It still has direct influences within a major period of music. :smug:[/QUOTE] We can? In that case: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZTaiDHqs5s[/media] This will be my project.
[QUOTE=AK'z;30636138]I think modern classical can count with this thread. It still has direct influences within a major period of music. :smug:[/QUOTE] In that case, hear this masterpiece: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrfoyyreUbE[/media]
[QUOTE=The Maestro;30636151]I don't really know any certain albums, but if you'd like to check out any of the Columbia recordings of Mahler's symphonies under Bruno Walter, those are excellent. I'd especially reccomend symphony no.2 "Resurrection".[/QUOTE] Yeah I think this is what you're talking about: [url]http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/gustav_mahler/symphony_no__2_resurrection__new_york_philharmonic___bruno_walter_/[/url] [IMG]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o202/akayz_people/o417278.gif[/IMG]
More modern "classical": [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWQZXCIcUSo[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otGIH5x8orU[/media] [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=AK'z;30636261]Yeah I think this is what you're talking about: [url]http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/gustav_mahler/symphony_no__2_resurrection__new_york_philharmonic___bruno_walter_/[/url] [IMG]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o202/akayz_people/o417278.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] I own that exact one on vinyl. [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] I guess now I'll also share some of my own performances :v: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs2ShH1Jois[/media]
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