• What are you working on? v15
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  • [QUOTE=Combino;27236450]Cool, have fun getting rooted by the next zero day that hits whatever browser you use. UAC keeps you safe from this kind of thing.[/QUOTE] I'm on your side here, but I don't use UAC and I don't feel particularly exposed. I'm just using the Windows 7 default firewall with Avast Antivirus, with noscript in firefox to stop pesky scripts from running unless I let them. Would you say I'm exposed? I can't stand the constant "Continue" clicking.
  • [QUOTE=Combino;27236701]Your responses demonstrate your ineptitude. Efficient use of RAM is to use every single byte of it and use what isn't being used by applications to cache data. Also, only a handful of AVs are able to protect you against zero-days, and even then it's extremely hit and miss.[/QUOTE] I know that, but its using up the memory at the expense of being able to use my harddrive as quickly. Im fairly sure that comodo, with its sandboxing, is quite good at keeping me safe.
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  • [QUOTE=Jallen;27236718]I'm on your side here, but I don't use UAC and I don't feel particularly exposed. I'm just using the Windows 7 default firewall with Avast Antivirus, with noscript in firefox to stop pesky scripts from running unless I let them. Would you say I'm exposed?[/quote] You're unnecessarily exposed. If a website was able to exploit a flaw in Firefox that didn't rely on JS (similar to the recent IE CSS exploit) and execute shellcode, you're as good as gone. If you're running 32 bit, you're out of luck as malware can patch your kernel to install a rootkit. Even on 64 bit, when UAC is turned off, you're letting any process you run install drivers. That's really bad if an exploit appears for anything you run. [quote]I can't stand the constant "Continue" clicking.[/QUOTE] You're doing it wrong. The only time I had to click continue all that much was installing drivers after a fresh install.
  • [IMG_thumb]http://i54.tinypic.com/67v9d4.png[/IMG_thumb] Im messing around with my noise trying to see what kinds of terrain its good for. Im thinking of trying to eventually base a 2d top down exploration game based on things generated by my noise. Hows that for lava? [QUOTE=Combino;27236811]-snip-[/QUOTE] *sigh* and you said i was showing my ineptitude Vista and seven 64 bit will both refuse to run unsigned drivers, unless you put your system into testsigning mode, in which case you probably know what you're doing somewhat
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  • [QUOTE=Icedshot;27236830][IMG_thumb]http://i54.tinypic.com/67v9d4.png[/IMG_thumb] Im messing around with my noise trying to see what kinds of terrain its good for. Im thinking of trying to eventually base a 2d top down exploration game based on things generated by my noise. Hows that for lava?[/QUOTE] A bit more orange here and there maybe? like in the grass one with snow
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  • [QUOTE=Icedshot;27236758]Im fairly sure that comodo, with its sandboxing, is quite good at keeping me safe.[/QUOTE] I just looked into Comodo's sandboxing and it turns out that if you added your browser to 'trusted apps' or installed it with an installer requiring elevation (ala. Firefox), then it won't be sandboxed and you're as good as gone come exploit time. Also, if you're running 64 bit, KPP stops any sandbox software from patching itself into the kernel which reduces it's effectiveness. UAC, however, is built into the kernel. [editline]7th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Icedshot;27236830]Vista and seven 64 bit will both refuse to run unsigned drivers, unless you put your system into testsigning mode, in which case you probably know what you're doing somewhat[/QUOTE] It's not unheard of for virus groups to sign their malware. Signing isn't much of a security layer anyway.
  • [QUOTE=sLysdal;27236840]A bit more orange here and there maybe? like in the grass one with snow[/QUOTE] As in less orange or more orange? :v: [QUOTE=Combino;27236872] -snip- [/QUOTE] Stop arguing, people are probably annoyed by now :v:
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  • [QUOTE=Icedshot;27236830]Yadayada[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Combino;27236872]Yadayada[/QUOTE] Would you two please stop the OS war? Everyone else seems to have... [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Icedshot;27236914]As in less orange or more orange? :v:[/QUOTE] Try more orange, but not asin overall, only in some places like it was the snow of the grass texture
  • UAC has the right idea, but their implementation is such crap. Only thing UAC has done so far is, force everything to say "Run this program as administrator" and cause support to have to deal with idiots who ignore it, wondering why the program doesn't work. [QUOTE=Combino;27236450]Cool, have fun getting rooted by the next zero day that hits whatever browser you use. UAC keeps you safe from this kind of thing.[/QUOTE] Bitches don't know about my sandboxed browser. [QUOTE=Combino;27236701]Also, only a handful of AVs are able to protect you against zero-days, and even then it's extremely hit and miss.[/QUOTE] Personally I find AVs useless especially when you know a decent amount about computers. Just use something like Comodo Defense+ (properly configured, not their shit defaults). Haven't had a virus since I was like 11-12.
  • So I wake up today and think, "Maybe I'll check WAYWO", and lo and behold I am greeted with 84 new posts! "Oh yay! Content galore!" Oh how wrong I was... EDIT: Pageking. Ha. Let this be the start of a glorious new content-filed page of goodness.
  • [QUOTE=sLysdal;27236918]-snip-[/QUOTE] [IMG_thumb]http://i55.tinypic.com/1zzj8jl.png[/IMG_thumb] Thats using exactly the same settings as the snowy grass. If you look closly, theyre identical :v:
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  • [QUOTE=DuCT;27237035]So I wake up today and think, "Maybe I'll check WAYWO", and lo and behold I am greeted with 84 new posts! "Oh yay! Content galore!" Oh how wrong I was...[/QUOTE] Y'know what's more annoying than no content? People complaining about there being no content.
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  • [QUOTE=BlkDucky;27237053]Y'know what's more annoying than no content? People complaining about there being no content.[/QUOTE] Y'know what's more annoying that people complaining about no content? People complaining about people complaining about no content.
  • [QUOTE=BlkDucky;27237053]Y'know what's more annoying than no content? People complaining about there being no content.[/QUOTE] Y'know whats more annoying than people complaining about there being no content? People complaining about people complaining about no content :v: That was a joke by the way :3 Edit: Goddam bloody ninjas
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  • [QUOTE=high;27237033]UAC has the right idea, but their implementation is such crap. Only thing UAC has done so far is, force everything to say "Run this program as administrator" and cause support to have to deal with idiots who ignore it, wondering why the program doesn't work. Bitches don't know about my sandboxed browser. Personally I find AVs useless especially when you know a decent amount about computers. Just use something like Comodo Defense+ (properly configured, not their shit defaults). Haven't had a virus since I was like 11-12.[/QUOTE] I totally agree with you on those points, however I think it's unfair to blame user error on any technical deficiencies in UAC. Windows cops a lot of flack because it has a largest slice of the marketshare pie. If another OS were to take over, idiots would cause trouble for that OS too. You can't blame the system for morons not knowing how to operate it.
  • [QUOTE=Combino;27237122]I totally agree with you on those points, however I think it's unfair to blame user error on any technical deficiencies in UAC. Windows cops a lot of flack because it has a largest slice of the marketshare pie. If another OS were to take over, idiots would cause trouble for that OS too. You can't blame the system for morons not knowing how to operate it.[/QUOTE] Well they already make windows user friendly enough. Why throw something into it that you know is going to confuse the shit out of the majority of your user base?
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  • [QUOTE=high;27237195]Well they already make windows user friendly enough. Why throw something into it that you know is going to confuse the shit out of the majority of your user base? Anyways, I don't really blame the users. UAC is just a big piece of shit. (First thing I disabled in Win7 after installation)[/QUOTE] So when you use Linux you run as root always?
  • [QUOTE=Combino;27237225]So when you use Linux you run as root always?[/QUOTE] That isn't fair. Linux has a better user system. I just think instead of spending time on UAC they should be teaching people about security. UAC doesn't stop someone from running a virus as administrator.
  • i think the relative merits of vista, windows 7 and linux are beyond the scope of this thread back to waywo?
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  • [QUOTE=high;27237287]That isn't fair. Linux has a better user system. I just think instead of spending time on UAC they should be teaching people about security. UAC doesn't stop someone from running a virus as administrator.[/QUOTE] It isn't fair because Linux users are generally more knowledgable? And UAC doesn't stop someone from allowing a virus to run as administrator, but no OS will. The idea is that it stops the virus automatically running as administrator, so that when it does run, the damage it can do is contained.
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  • [QUOTE=Combino;27237363]It isn't fair because Linux users are generally more knowledgable? And UAC doesn't stop someone from allowing a virus to run as administrator, but no OS will. The idea is that it stops the virus automatically running as administrator, so that when it does run, the damage it can do is contained.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNW8sW31oZc[/media]
  • [QUOTE=Combino;27237363]And UAC doesn't stop someone from allowing a virus to run as administrator, but no OS will.[/QUOTE] I didn't mean literally... Teaching people about security stops them from running viruses instead of wasting time on the hassle that is UAC.
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  • I call for a new thread, WAYNO, What Are You Not Working On, because that's all this thread is.
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  • [QUOTE=yakahughes;27237583]I call for a new thread, WAYNO, What Are You Not Working On, because that's all this thread is.[/QUOTE] That would be WAYNWO
  • The irony is, you are complaining about the lack of content by making contentless posts yourself..
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  • I'm not working on that MMORPG with epic battles of more than a thousand people at once I always wanted to make.
  • [QUOTE=DrLuke;27237782]I'm not working on that MMORPG with epic battles of more than a thousand people at once I always wanted to make.[/QUOTE] What language are you not programming it in?
  • [QUOTE=high;27237485]I didn't mean literally... Teaching people about security stops them from running viruses instead of wasting time on the hassle that is UAC.[/QUOTE] How on earth is UAC a hassle? Literally the only time I see the UAC dialogs is when installing new software or using old software that hasn't been updated to follow new guidelines which requires running as administrator: you can't expect Microsoft to stick to a shitty security model forever. It's the exact fucking same thing as the sudo password dialogs in any modern Linux distribution when you're changing settings or updating packages. [quote=HubmaN]Elevating through UAC is modal and intrusive (and for some reason disables DWM while active, giving some 2 seconds of lag before and after).[/quote] This is done on purpose so that applications can't automate UAC elevations.