• Electronics and Embedded Programming V3
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  • [table="align: center"][tr][td] [img]http://i.imgur.com/OlhBt.png[/img] [/td][/tr][/table] [table="align: center"][tr][td] [b][h2]! Thread is moving to the Maker Mates section ![/h2][/b] [/td][/tr][/table] [b]Welcome to the Facepunch electronics thread, this thread is for anyone who has an interest in electronics, be it analog, digital or just blowing shit up in their free time. If you have something you want to show or desire to get into electronics just make a post and someone will be along eventually.[/b] [img]http://i.imgur.com/WNV4l.png[/img] [table] [tr][td][url=http://www.facepunch.com/member.php?u=367776]chipset[/url][/td][/tr] [tr][td][t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/59112523/upload/2012-06-30%2009.52.14.jpg[/t][/td][td][t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/59112523/EEP%20thread/2012-06-17%2000.39.51.jpg[/t][/td][td][t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/59112523/how2ardweeno.png[/t][/td][/tr] [tr][td][i]Electric water pump timer[/i][/td][td][i]Vacuum fluorescent display[/i][/td][td][i]Guide to interfacing microcontrollers with high power devices[/i][/td][/tr][/table] [url]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/59112523/how2ardweeno.png[/url] [table] [tr][td][url=http://www.facepunch.com/member.php?u=327316]MIPS[/url][/td][/tr] [tr][td][t]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/100_2872.jpg[/t][/td][td][t]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/100_2534.jpg[/t][/td][/tr] [tr][td][i]Fancy rotary switch[/i][/td][td][i]MIPS enjoys colorful wiring[/i][/td][/tr][/table] [table] [tr][td]Lapsus[/td][/tr] [tr][td][t]http://imgkk.com/i/lp6d.jpg[/t][/td][td][t]http://imgkk.com/i/yb3e.jpg[/t][/td][/tr] [tr][td][i]FPGA based VGA signal generator[/i][/td][td][i]Game Controller[/i][/td][/tr][/table] [table] [tr][td][url=http://www.facepunch.com/member.php?u=200070]DrLuke[/url][/td][/tr] [tr][td][t]http://i48.tinypic.com/1zld668.png[/t][/td][td][t]http://i48.tinypic.com/2ut2jyr.png[/t][/td][/tr] [tr][td][i]Tesla coil drivers[/i][/td][td][i]LCD[/i][/td][/tr][/table] [table] [tr][td][url=http://www.facepunch.com/member.php?u=124890]Ddrl46[/url][/td][/tr] [tr][td][t]http://i.imgur.com/nN3eg.jpg[/t][/td][td][t]http://i.imgur.com/8wHWZ.jpg[/t][/td][/tr] [tr][td][i]Nixie Tube[/i][/td][td][i]Variable power supply[/i][/td][/tr][/table] [img]http://i.imgur.com/H9k3k.png[/img] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/The_Art_of_Electronics.jpg[/img] [b]Art of Electronics by Paul Horowitz and Winfield Hill[/b] Without a doubt the most complete and informative book on electronics, although the current 2nd edition is rather old (1989) it is still extremely relevant to modern electronics. If you're going to buy any book this should be the one, although it is not designed for beginners. [img]http://i.imgur.com/lJsRW.png[/img] [b]Complete Digital Design by Mark Balch[/b] An excellent book that covers all the basics such as boolean logic, karnaugh maps, binary arithmetic and more advanced topics such as serial communication, microprocessors and the practical design of digital circuits. [img]http://i.imgur.com/LLUjU.png[/img] [b]Principles of Electric Circuits by Thomas L. Floyd (9th ed)[/b] A very good book for beginners that unlike most comes in an electron flow version as well, if you prefer that. The book is full of well drawn diagrams and helpful pictures which makes reading easy and fun, in addition at the end of each chapter there is a quiz to make sure you fully understand what you have read. [img]http://i.imgur.com/EJF7C.png[/img] [b]Troubleshooting Analog Circuits by Robert A. Pease (Bob Pease)[/b] An excellent book by an excellent author, this book contains a lot of useful information that is invaluable if you are interested in getting into electronic repair. [img]http://i.imgur.com/iuSjW.png[/img] [b]Power Electronics Handbook by Muhammad H. Rashid et al[/b] A huge amount of information on power circuits and components a must have if you're interested in power electronics. [b]Video Lectures[/b] [url=http://www.youtube.com/user/nptelhrd#grid/user/7987F30C41A9ADCB]Basic Electronics, Prof T.S.Natarajan - NPTEL[/url] [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/winner.png[/img] Very well made lecture series with a lot of useful information, highly recommended. [b]Other Resources[/b] [url=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u5UTcWSSzAKCu52mSKMIJsJKH4pbQS57VRre0cr0Jb0/edit?hl=en_GB&pli=1]Electronics Reference[/url] List of various useful equations and other information. [url]http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/[/url] A very informative e-book that can be read online or downloaded, it explains things very nicely and with plenty of pictures and diagrams so it is suitable for beginners. I highly recommend although the book is not complete. [url]http://www.eevblog.com/[/url] Excellent video blog all about electronics, definitely worth watching. Also has an excellent forum suitable both for beginners and professionals. [url]http://www.williamson-labs.com/[/url] Some useful images but the site design will make your eyes bleed. [url]http://www.repairfaq.org/[/url] Interesting information related to electronics repair. [img]http://i.imgur.com/Gljcd.png[/img] [b]{Q}[/b] How much does it cost to get started with electronics ? [b]{A}[/b] Not much, depending on how far you want to go anywhere from £30 to £200 [b]{Q}[/b] What is the best way to learn electronics ? [b]{A}[/b] Reading books is usually the best way, however if you can't stand reading there are plenty of alternative options, don't always assume what you're reading is correct however. [b]{Q}[/b] Where do I get an oscilloscope ? [b]{A}[/b] Ebay is the best place for picking up a low cost analog scope, avoid PC based scopes and mini scopes like the DSO Nano, alternatively you can get a brand new digital scope from about £200. [img]http://i.imgur.com/xNwAf.png[/img] [url=http://www.bitsbox.co.uk/]Bitsbox[/url] - Small selection of components but very cheap shipping, £1.50 UK, £2.75 Europe, £4.00 anywhere else. [url=http://www.rs-components.com/]RS[/url] - A well known supplier with large selection, shipping is fairly cheap but no Paypal. [url=http://www.farnell.com/]Farnell[/url] - Another excellent supplier with a very large selection, minimum order applies and no Paypal. [url=http://www.dealextreme.com/]DealExtreme[/url] - Sells a lot of made in china stuff but you can get some really good deals such as the Rigol DS1052E. [url=http://www.rapidonline.com/]Rapid[/url] - Decent selection but not the cheapest, shipping outside the UK is also fairly expensive. [url=http://www.maplin.co.uk/]Maplin Electronics[/url] - Similar to rapid but even more expensive, not available outside the UK as far as I'm aware, avoid. [url=http://www.digikey.com/]Digikey[/url] - Excellent selection of components but fairly expensive shipping. [url=http://www.sureelectronics.net/]Sure Electronics[/url] - Small selection but some good value for money component kits. [url=http://www.sparkfun.com/]Sparkfun Electronics[/url] - Nice selection with some good deals, still quite expensive. 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[b]Avoid working with mains electricity unless you are confident with what you're doing Probe live circuits with your right hand and keep your left hand in your pocket Keep your hands clean and dry Do not wear any metal objects even around low voltage Never go near high energy (3 phase) systems with a non-industry grade multimeter Use a properly fused multimeter to avoid risk of explosion Ensure high voltage capacitors are discharged before touching a circuit Never make changes to household wiring unless you REALLY know what you're doing NEVER EVER play around with microwave ovens they're potentially lethal[/b] [quote] [b]Previous Threads[/b] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/880827-Electronics-and-Embedded-Programming[/url] V1 - By Ddrl46 [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1092907[/url] V2 - By Chryseus [/quote]
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  • I assume due to size "What are you working on" was also closed. Besides I like the new thread smell.
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  • [img]http://i.imgur.com/da02T.png[/img] My first PCB layout, I'm quite pleased. It's an AVR Dev board: [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/jdW67.png[/img_thumb]
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  • I may get one if I can. Otherwise I'll just make the pad bigger so it's easier to drill.
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  • Whats a boost converters current output based on? frequency or inductor size?
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  • [QUOTE=SubbyV-2;34507376]Whats a boost converters current output based on? frequency or inductor size?[/QUOTE] Both
  • I need some help with multiplexing. Right now i have about 20 LEDs that need to be controlled separately. I have acces to a Arduno Uno (14 i/o ports + 6 analog ports that should be able to act as outputs), but there also are 5 inputs needed. I need the best way of multiplexing. This is supposed to be a traffic light, so the least flickering possible. I also have a supply of various resistors, capacitors (100 µF), transistors (BC 547 B). VistaPOWA explained multiplexing to me before, kind of know how it supposed to work but can't figure out how to actually make it work yet.
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  • Well, if you only need to turn on and off your LEDs, a shift register is the easiest solution. [url]http://bildr.org/2011/02/74hc595/[/url]
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  • You could always look into [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlieplexing]charlieplexing[/url] the LEDs, though I don't know how you'd go about having all 6 traffic lights lit at the same time, switching between the 6 sets faster than the eye can see seems to be the most straightforward solution, and shouldn't be too hard. 20 charlieplexed LEDs should only take 5 pins, so that leaves you plenty of room for your inputs too.
  • How would i expand this? [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/3_Pin_Charlieplexing.png[/img]
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  • [QUOTE=Goz3rr;34509351]Can't really buy anything[/QUOTE] You can get multiplexer ICs as samples from a number of places such as Ti or Maxim. Alternatively you can use I2C or SPI IO expanders.
  • There's a pattern there. Notice the sets of LEDs: 1->2 2->1 2->3 3->2 1->3 3->1 Each pin connects to each other pin through two LEDs of opposite orientation in parallel. So if you add a fourth pin, you would also add: 1->4 4->1 2->4 4->2 3->4 4->3 etc. Then, you set all the pins to High-Z, except for the two that control the LED you want to light. If you set one HIGH and the other LOW, then one LED will light up. If you do the reverse, the other LED will light up.
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  • Got my logic analyzer today! :dance: [img]http://imgkk.com/i/-85b.png[/img] [img]http://imgkk.com/i/jt_n.png[/img] [table][tr][td][img]http://imgkk.com/i/y_6c.jpg[/img][/td] [td][code]byte counter = 0; void setup() { DDRD = B11111111; // set pins 0-7 as output noInterrupts(); // Stop gapping out }; void loop() { PORTD = counter++; };[/code][/td][/tr][/table]
  • [QUOTE=VistaPOWA;34524826]Pretty neat. I assume it's a Bus Pirate, right?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.saleae.com/Logic[/url]
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  • I just won a 50MHz dual-channel (working) oscilloscope for 10 bucks! "Bid didn't reach minimal price, putting the item up for bidding again" FUCK [editline]3rd February 2012[/editline] Guy told me that the minimal price is $150. Nope.
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  • [URL="http://about.maxwell.com/microelectronics/products/ned/index.asp"]I hope they make an Arduino shield out of those[/URL] :smile:
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  • [QUOTE=VistaPOWA;34526172]I just won a 50MHz dual-channel (working) oscilloscope for 10 bucks! "Bid didn't reach minimal price, putting the item up for bidding again" FUCK [editline]3rd February 2012[/editline] Guy told me that the minimal price is $150. Nope.[/QUOTE] Wait what? If he wants a minimum price of 150$ why doesn't he put it up with a starting bid of 150$ then? Does ebay allow this? If not I would open a ticket and demand it.
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  • [QUOTE=DrLuke;34529036]Wait what? If he wants a minimum price of 150$ why doesn't he put it up with a starting bid of 150$ then? Does ebay allow this? If not I would open a ticket and demand it.[/QUOTE] It's a common scam: selling something for a low prince and then wanting more money [editline]3rd February 2012[/editline] You should contact eBay anyway
  • Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's not allowed to do that. It is a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait-and-switch]common scam[/url], like Val67 said. [editline]3rd February 2012[/editline] [url]http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/reserve-price.html[/url] [quote=Ebay.com]A reserve price is a price a seller can set when they create an auction-style listing. It's the minimum price they're willing to accept for an item. [b]If the bidding doesn't reach this price, they aren't obligated to sell the item[/b]. Sellers might use a reserve price because it allows them to set a low starting price to generate interest and bidding, but protects them from having to sell their item at a price that they feel is too low. The [b]reserve price is hidden from buyers[/b], but some sellers include it in the item description or tell buyers who contact them and ask what the reserve price is. However, sellers aren't obligated to reveal their reserve price.[/quote] Yeah, fuck Ebay if they actually condone this sort of thing. That's just dishonest. Starting bids should [i]always[/i] be the minimum amount a seller is willing to settle for. If it's not, then it has absolutely no meaning whatsoever, and it's a farce, not a proper auction. At that point, there's no reason not to set your starting bid to $0.01 for every single item just to have it at the top of the list when sorted by price.
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  • [QUOTE=ROBO_DONUT;34530050]Starting bids should [i]always[/i] be the minimum amount a seller is willing to settle for. If it's not, then it has absolutely no meaning whatsoever, and it's a farce, not a proper auction.[/QUOTE] I agree it makes bidding on things a waste of time, unless you like to bend over and pay the full price when they tell you it has a 'reserve' on it. Any reserve should always be shown.