• Black Ops 2 gets 'Nuketown' pre-order bonus
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[QUOTE=GameDev;36592674]I still don't understand how a map with chokepoints to camping spots is popular[/QUOTE] Because in my experience the average gamer (regardless of the game) seems to love unbalanced shit maps, as long as they can benefit from the unfair parts of it
[QUOTE=GameDev;36592674]I still don't understand how a map with chokepoints to camping spots is popular[/QUOTE] Chokepoints and camping spots? Sounds like every FPS map ever. [editline]2nd July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=zpiscool;36593334]Why Nuketown? Nuketown was the worst map in BlOps by far.[/QUOTE] Nuketown was the most popular Black Ops map. If WMD was the most popular they probably would have remade that with a 2025-looking rocket.
Welcome to facepunch, where "I don't like this map" = "omg good going company, splitting the community again!!!" you guys need to kill the bandwagon shit, it makes you look like children. Nuketown was by far one of the most played maps in the game, if you don't like the map, fine, but the community does. Guess what companies do? They appease fans. I hated Karkand in my opinion, that doesn't mean I freaked on DICE for making it a map pack.
For some reason, I thought Nuketown was the first level in Duke Nukem 3D and I was like "why would they put a Duke Nukem 3D map in another game, especially Black Ops 2?".
[QUOTE=ashxu;36592246]It's more about the concept of restricting content that should come with the fucking game. This isn't a stupid re-skin or bonus weapon either, it's a big piece of content.[/QUOTE] "This map is so fucking dumb and retarded why does Treyarch have to make it so i can't play it :'( " [editline]2nd July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Bragdras;36593882]For some reason, I thought Nuketown was the first level in Duke Nukem 3D and I was like "why would they put a Duke Nukem 3D map in another game, especially Black Ops 2?".[/QUOTE] That'd be fucking awesome.
[QUOTE=Scot;36591742]Re-making old maps and re-releasing them as a pre order bonus? Must be CoD. Oh wait [IMG]http://speed.techin5.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/battlefield-3-back-to-karkand_1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] The difference being that there went an enormous amount of work into getting those maps on the Frostbite 2 engine, fit to the altered gameplay that now supports partially destructible environments and insane graphics, as compared to "porting" nuketown over to a slightly different engine version and giving it a slight visual overhaul.
[QUOTE=Chrille;36593927]The difference being that there went an enormous amount of work into getting those maps on the Frostbite 2 engine, fit to the altered gameplay that now supports partially destructible environments and insane graphics, as compared to "porting" nuketown over to a slightly different engine version and giving it a slight visual overhaul.[/QUOTE] that makes no difference, just because it took more effort doesn't mean it's better in any sense. If BlOps 2 was on a new engine you'd eat up a new nuke town? besides holy shit it's a pre-order bonus it's not like you're paying extra
[QUOTE=Chrille;36593927]The difference being that there went an enormous amount of work into getting those maps on the Frostbite 2 engine, fit to the altered gameplay that now supports partially destructible environments and insane graphics, as compared to "porting" nuketown over to a slightly different engine version and giving it a slight visual overhaul.[/QUOTE] Right because I'm sure you're an expert on what it takes to port maps
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36593974]Right because I'm sure you're an expert on what it takes to port maps[/QUOTE] you don't need to be an expert to know that it takes more effort to make something from scratch for a new game with a new engine to fit new gameplay mechanics and new features than it does to port the map structure to essentially the same engine and give it a visual overhaul [QUOTE=No Party Hats;36593966]that makes no difference, just because it took more effort doesn't mean it's better in any sense. If BlOps 2 was on a new engine you'd eat up a new nuke town?[/QUOTE] I mentioned more things than that didn't I? Given activisions reputation with releasing old maps for new games I don't think we should expect anything else than a new coat of paint. The maps in back to karkand were more than that.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36591885]Call of Duty thrives on CQC combat, Nuketown was a perfectly good map. Zany, fun and especially great with friends[/QUOTE] Call of Duty thrives on bad broken gameplay that happens to be close quarters.
[QUOTE=Chrille;36594151]you don't need to be an expert to know that it takes more effort to make something from scratch for a new game with a new engine to fit new gameplay mechanics and new features than it does to port the map structure to essentially the same engine and give it a visual overhaul[/QUOTE] But just because they did more doesn't inherently make it better [editline]2nd July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=DOG-GY;36594153]Call of Duty thrives on bad broken gameplay that happens to be close quarters.[/QUOTE] Broken? How is it broken?
Hey Dollarvision, I'd like to make a request: can we please have A LOT of maps in BO2? That would help in case the gameplay will be shitty, at least we won't be completly mad on you.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36594164]But just because they did more doesn't inherently make it better[/QUOTE] Obviously that's up to the individual to decide but I think it's worth more money if they remake stuff from 7 year old games and do a proper job at it instead of just reusing stuff from a 2 year old game
[QUOTE=Chrille;36594251]Obviously that's up to the individual to decide but I think it's worth more money if they remake stuff from 7 year old games and do a proper job at it instead of just reusing stuff from a 2 year old game[/QUOTE] I don't disagree, but I think B2K and this are similar in more ways than are obvious. People will buy it anyway so it's not like it matters
Don't be surprised if Nuketown will be available for everyone later for $15.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36594270]I don't disagree, but I think B2K and this are similar in more ways than are obvious. People will buy it anyway so it's not like it matters[/QUOTE] Aside from semi-destructible environments, new vehicles, and new weapons of course.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36594164]Broken? How is it broken?[/QUOTE] most of FP thinks Call of Duty is broken because it isn't Battlefield despite the games having nothing in common except for being military shooters. [QUOTE=Jetblack357;36595085]Aside from semi-destructible environments, new vehicles, and new weapons of course.[/QUOTE] and by new weapons and vehicles you mean the same weapons and vehicles in every other map except with new skins?
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36595085]Aside from semi-destructible environments, new vehicles, and new weapons of course.[/QUOTE] B2K is an expansion pack, not a map. Of course if you factor in the other shit you get more.
As much as I liked the map design in Black Ops, Nuketown felt like a gimmick that was best played in private matches.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36595176]As much as I liked the map design in Black Ops, Nuketown felt like a gimmick that was best played in private matches.[/QUOTE] Yes, exactly. Under the right conditions Nuketown was great. I have an eerie feeling that everyone denouncing it went into 64 player servers where it was basically an LMG mouse click fest.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36595198]Yes, exactly. Under the right conditions Nuketown was great. I have an eerie feeling that everyone denouncing it went into 64 player servers where it was basically an LMG mouse click fest.[/QUOTE] Nuketown worked if all the players were actively moving around but it usually just turned into a campfest because of the terrible spawn points.
[QUOTE=absolalone111;36592059]Bungie when it realeased halo 1 maps as dlcs for reach[/QUOTE] 343 Industries released the Anniversary Map Pack, not Bungie. [editline]2nd July 2012[/editline] I wonder if BLOPS2 will have the Vs AI training mode like the first game, I had fun messing around in that. It was also an easy way to try most of the weapons if you suck at playing against other players.
[QUOTE=absolalone111;36592059]Bungie when it realeased halo 1 maps as dlcs for reach[/QUOTE] I was taking the piss.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;36592462]fucking remake Toujane asstards but that's an IW map but toujane was fucking [B]AWESOME [/B]It's even urban combat so it's easy to make it look fitting, unlike El Alamein[/QUOTE] Matmata, Beltot and St. Mere-Eglise are so fucking awesome for Call of Duty 2. My 3 favourite maps on Call of Duty 2 Multiplayer (still play it). If that was in a recent Call of Duty, would be interesting.
make a new map? they can't even make a new game
i did a 1v1 in nuketown once against someone that talked shit about me and had level 1 prestige while i didnt even have more than the default weapons i wrecked his shit into the ground and had no fun doing so If i'm going to buy Blops 2, they must make sure that the whole server list doesn't consist of nuketown and bans for certain weapons, and have SEA servers.
im not buying this rehashed shit
I wish I would get dog tags if I pre-order/get the limited edition for every military game Would be cool to have a collection of dog-tags from different time periods and universes.
Liked the map at first, got boring very fast though. In my opinion that is.
[QUOTE=Insane516;36604702]im not buying this rehashed shit[/QUOTE] A fine example of someone who rides the bandwagon without viewing any media.
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