• Gallop poll: 32% of Americans are non-religious.
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[url]http://www.gallup.com/poll/153479/mississippi-religious-state.aspx[/url]
Awesome.
That many? Wow.
This country is finally making some progress.
[QUOTE=Squarebob;35395169]This country is finally making some progress.[/QUOTE] Little by little.
[QUOTE=Squarebob;35395169]This country is finally making some progress.[/QUOTE] Yes because a people's religious beliefs are [I]clearly[/I] the determining factor for progress.
[QUOTE=Squarebob;35395169]This country is finally making some progress.[/QUOTE] Why exactly does it matter what a person believes? I'm an atheist and I don't even see why it matters. Any reason why believing in a religion is such a bad thing?
I would say because it undermines the possibility of us pushing past religious beliefs to ensure the rights of everyone are in place.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;35395223]I would say because it undermines the possibility of us pushing past religious beliefs to ensure the rights of everyone are in place.[/QUOTE] Atheists can be just as guilty of this as people of any other religion.
[QUOTE=scout1;35395208]Yes because a people's religious beliefs are [I]clearly[/I] the determining factor for progress.[/QUOTE] They certainly are and I'm not being sarcastic
[QUOTE=ewitwins;35395223]I would say because it undermines the possibility of us pushing past religious beliefs to ensure the rights of everyone are in place.[/QUOTE] Way to generalize everybody who's religious into some ignorant group. Most religious people don't follow their transcript word for word, and many of my religious friends are very tolerant of how a person chooses to live their life (ie homosexuality, abortions, etc). I have atheist friends who are complete homophobes, does that mean all atheists are homophobes now? Hell, I can't really think of anybody I know who complains about how their religion is being violated by the practices of others.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;35395230]Atheists can be just as guilty of this as people of any other religion.[/QUOTE] No they can't. We don't follow one doctrine. We just don't accept any doctrine. We're not a religion like you implied, dammit. We're a lack of one. Get it right. We decided not to follow faith. That's it. Some decide to believe in evolution, some decide to believe in the Big Bang, etc. We're not categorized by belief, but lack of one.
Never thought i'd see the day of America making progress.
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[QUOTE=download;35395237]They certainly are and I'm not being sarcastic[/QUOTE] *cough* Soviet Russia *cough*.
[QUOTE=Valdor;35395265]Way to generalize everybody who's religious into some ignorant group. Most religious people don't follow their transcript word for word, and many of my religious friends are very tolerant of how a person chooses to live their life (ie homosexuality, abortions, etc). I have atheist friends who are complete homophobes, does that mean all atheists are homophobes now?[/QUOTE] No, but by deciding to call themselves Christian, for example. Not saying they are, but that's the most common example, they are saying that they agree with most of Christianity's beliefs. They may go to church and fund this sort of doctrine and spreading of homophobic, racist, and sexist beliefs. That's bad. If they don't follow it word for word they shouldn't be following it at all.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;35395223]I would say because it undermines the possibility of us pushing past religious beliefs to ensure the rights of everyone are in place.[/QUOTE] You do know that some people just believe in god and don't follow any of the big religions
[QUOTE=Zally13;35395278]If they don't follow it word for word they shouldn't be following it at all.[/QUOTE] Wait when was this decided and by who?
[QUOTE=LarparNar;35395284]Wait when was this decided and by who?[/QUOTE] Around 1530 and John Calvin.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;35395284]Wait when was this decided and by who?[/QUOTE] Common sense? You can't just pick and choose in a religious book like the Bible. It's very clear that it means everything it says and you should take all of it to heart. You're not even following the Bible at that point; you're just agreeing with some ideas and rolling with it. Things like this are all or nothing.
[QUOTE=Zally13;35395278]No, but by deciding to call themselves Christian, for example. Not saying they are, but that's the most common example, they are saying that they agree with most of Christianity's beliefs. They may go to church and fund this sort of doctrine and spreading of homophobic, racist, and sexist beliefs. That's bad. If they don't follow it word for word they shouldn't be following it at all.[/QUOTE] I know you like to believe that everyone who's religious is ignorant, but could you stop being ignorant yourself? There's hundreds of Christian churches who don't breach homophobic, racist, or sexist beliefs. Just because they identify themselves into a group which has many sects, doesn't mean they're all the same. And calling yourself a Christian doesn't automatically make you some racisti homophobe. Take your head out of your ass and read what you're typing, please.
[QUOTE=scout1;35395208]Yes because a people's religious beliefs are [I]clearly[/I] the determining factor for progress.[/QUOTE] I'm also going to go ahead and say that it does. When you believe in something with lack of evidence, you're condoning faith and lack of proof. That stunts scientific progress at the very least. Not to mention evolution is still, for whatever reason, not completely accepted in America.
[QUOTE=Zally13;35395297]Common sense? You can't just pick and choose in a religious book like the Bible. It's very clear that it means everything it says and you should take all of it to heart. You're not even following the Bible at that point; you're just agreeing with some ideas and rolling with it. Things like this are all or nothing.[/QUOTE] Of course you can pick and choose what you want to believe, it doesn't necessarily have to be from the Bible.
Beliefs of any kind can get in the way of progress, not just religious ones, and many religious people know to think independently of their faith when it comes to politics, only taking in mind general moral lessons like be nice to your neighbor or something. Extremists of any kind can be bad. Extreme atheists might just throw the country into religious debates as well. Whether you're religious or not doesn't determine how good a person you are, tho some people taking pride in their faith or absence thereof might think otherwise. I fail to see how it's "progress", but I guess science is answering more and more questions religion used to answer, and often with more proof or theories made very plausible by certain experiments, so this development doesn't really surprise me all too much.
[QUOTE=Valdor;35395307]I know you like to believe that everyone who's religious is ignorant, but could you stop being ignorant yourself? There's hundreds of Christian churches who don't breach homophobic, racist, or sexist beliefs. Just because they identify themselves into a group which has many sects, doesn't mean they're all the same. And calling yourself a Christian doesn't automatically make you some racisti homophobe. Take your head out of your ass and read what you're typing, please.[/QUOTE] Never said it makes you a racist homophobe. I'm saying you're condoning it by believing in it. So these Christian churches that don't condone it don't completely agree with the books they're preaching from? Something's wrong there.
[QUOTE=Zally13;35395297]Common sense? You can't just pick and choose in a religious book like the Bible. It's very clear that it means everything it says and you should take all of it to heart. You're not even following the Bible at that point; you're just agreeing with some ideas and rolling with it. Things like this are all or nothing.[/QUOTE] Oh my god. :downs: You're no better than the religious extremists, zally. Be more ignorant.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;35395313]Of course you can pick and choose what you want to believe, it doesn't necessarily have to be from the Bible.[/QUOTE] Yes you can pick and choose what you wish to believe, but you can't say you believe in the Bible and THEN pick and choose. [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Valdor;35395321]Oh my god. :downs:[/QUOTE] Yes, calling me an idiot is going to really progress a discussion.
[QUOTE=timmyvos;35395274]*cough* Soviet Russia *cough*.[/QUOTE] Attrocites committed by the Soviet Union were committed in the name of Communism, not Atheism. Unlike the Crusades, or 9/11, or Waco, or Jones Town
[QUOTE=Zally13;35395324]Yes you can pick and choose what you wish to believe, but you can't say you believe in the Bible and THEN pick and choose. [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] Yes, calling me an idiot is going to really progress a discussion.[/QUOTE] "people can't choose what parts of the bible they want to believe in and still be christians! i'm zally and i define how people identify themselves with a religion!!11!" Yet people do this and it's acceptable. Why the fuck are you even arguing otherwise. Are you the one who chooses how people can and cannot pick a religion?
This is a start. Hopefully one day I'll be able to see this poll at 100%.
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