• Musicians Demand Release of Songs Used to 'Torture' Gitmo Detainees
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[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968226]So we should feel sorry for the terrorists?[/QUOTE] let me put this simply [b]WE HAVE NOT PROVEN THAT EVERYONE IN THERE IS A TERRORIST[/b] [b]they were never given trials.[/b] they were just grabbed by the military and dragged there. Fine, torture the terrorists, go ahead, [b]BUT AT LEAST PROVE THAT THEY ARE TERRORISTS FIRST[/b] and don't derail this with some "lol don't get so angry" comment. I have every right to be angry when potentially innocent people are being locked away in prison without the slightest bit of oversight.
I'd buy Guantanamo Greatest Hits, just for the hell of it.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17968253]let me put this simply [b]WE HAVE NOT PROVEN THAT EVERYONE IN THERE IS A TERRORIST[/b] [b]they were never given trials.[/b] they were just grabbed by the military and dragged there. Fine, torture the terrorists, go ahead, [b]BUT AT LEAST PROVE THAT THEY ARE TERRORISTS FIRST[/b] and don't derail this with some "lol don't get so angry" comment. I have every right to be angry when potentially innocent people are being locked away in prison without the slightest bit of oversight.[/QUOTE] Where did you read, "just grabbed and dragged them there" ?
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968226]So we should feel sorry for the terrorists?[/QUOTE] Maybe they're not terrorists. It hasn't been proven, because they haven't been given a trial. And even if they are terrorists, every last one of them, 100%, they are still human, and their basic rights can't legally be violated. I can't be bothered to look up the UDHR, but I'm sure it's infringing on one or two articles of it.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17968284]Where did you read, "just grabbed and dragged them there" ?[/QUOTE] ignore the minutia of my comment, the important thing is: they were not given a trial.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17968304]that's an inherent part of "they were not given a trial"[/QUOTE] you cant do anything about it why are you arguing
[QUOTE=Christarp4;17968330]you cant do anything about it why are you arguing[/QUOTE] it takes the pain of living on this gay earth away a bit
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17968253]let me put this simply [b]WE HAVE NOT PROVEN THAT EVERYONE IN THERE IS A TERRORIST[/b] [b]they were never given trials.[/b] they were just grabbed by the military and dragged there. Fine, torture the terrorists, go ahead, [b]BUT AT LEAST PROVE THAT THEY ARE TERRORISTS FIRST[/b] and don't derail this with some "lol don't get so angry" comment. I have every right to be angry when potentially innocent people are being locked away in prison without the slightest bit of oversight.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the military can tell who is a terrorist and who isn't.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17968304]ignore the minutia of my comment, the important thing is: they were not given a trial.[/QUOTE] I'll listen when you can back up your claims.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968347]I'm pretty sure the military can tell who is a terrorist and who isn't.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure doesn't cut it. It's quite likely, almost certain even, that there are wrongfully detained 'terrorists' in there. A good way to prove that is with a trial. It's why we have them.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968347]I'm pretty sure the military can tell who is a terrorist and who isn't.[/QUOTE] Lol what kind of "small government" supporter are you? So the military can decide whether or not that someone is a terrorist without needing to go over evidence and have an impartial court actually declare a verdict? So the difference between a person going free and spending years and years of their life locked up in Cuba is some field commander saying "he's a terrorist" alright? What happened to due process? I'm fucking done with this. You wanna justify America ignoring all the principals it was founded on, go ahead. But don't pretend to be a patriot while doing it.
[QUOTE=Llamaboy9;17968037]Um... I think I know what was used. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IAYlISmJO8[/media] Just imagine it.[/QUOTE] Do I have a problem if I enjoyed that?
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17968341]it takes the pain of living on this gay earth away a bit[/QUOTE] You lack a spine. Toughen up.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968347]I'm pretty sure the military can tell who is a terrorist and who isn't.[/QUOTE] No, they can't. The military is not infallible. It makes mistakes. [editline]10:02PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968449]You lack a spine. Toughen up.[/QUOTE] God you are foolish.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968449]You lack a spine.[/QUOTE] and you lack the ability to stop jerking it to AMERICA sticking it to those damn AMERICA HATING BROWN PEOPLE to realize that the united states military is committing a crime against humanity "Ha, look at this faggot. He doesn't like it when potentially innocent people are taken away from their families and locked away in dark prison cells for years without any sort of oversight proving that they committed any act of terrorism. Grow a spine you cocksucker!"
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968449]You lack a spine. Toughen up.[/QUOTE] You lack intelligence. Smarten up.
[QUOTE=Reaver1991;17968050]I'd like to think they were using Closer.[/QUOTE] His worse song. I would use it for torture, too.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17968404]Lol what kind of "small government" supporter are you? So the military can decide whether or not that someone is a terrorist without needing to go over evidence and have an impartial court actually declare a verdict? So the difference between a person going free and spending years and years of their life locked up in Cuba is some field commander saying "he's a terrorist" alright? What happened to due process? I'm fucking done with this. You wanna justify America ignoring all the principals it was founded on, go ahead. But don't pretend to be a patriot while doing it.[/QUOTE] I support our military, and I trust they can decide who is shooting at them or not. Trials would be reasonable, but they would be hard to successfully execute. It's hard enough to capture the guy shooting at you, but to prove he was shooting at you to a judge is even harder.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;17968411]Do I have a problem if I enjoyed that?[/QUOTE] Oh God yes. I will regret I clicked the 'watch youtube video' button for the rest of my life.
[QUOTE=Marlwolf78;17968464] God you are foolish.[/QUOTE] I'm foolish because I don't say depressing things about the world I live in?
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968515]I support our military, and I trust they can decide who is shooting at them or not. [/QUOTE] You are a truly sad indivisual.
[QUOTE=Reaver1991;17968010]I saw some of the musicians on the gitmo list. If they made me listen to AC/DC[/QUOTE] Wait, the fuck did you just say? That better say "I'd headbang and be perfectly fine with it" At the end.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968531]I'm foolish because I don't say depressing things about the world I live in?[/QUOTE] Uh, yeah. Pretty much. You're naive.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17968477]and you lack the ability to stop jerking it to AMERICA sticking it to those damn AMERICA HATING BROWN PEOPLE to realize that the united states military is committing a crime against humanity "Ha, look at this faggot. He doesn't like it when potentially innocent people are taken away from their families and locked away in dark prison cells for years without any sort of oversight proving that they committed any act of terrorism. Grow a spine you cocksucker!"[/QUOTE] Still waiting for you to back up your claims about innocents getting picked at random and dragged away.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968515]I support our military, and I trust they can decide who is shooting at them or not. Trials would be reasonable, but they would be hard to successfully execute. It's hard enough to capture the guy shooting at you, but to prove he was shooting at you to a judge is even harder.[/QUOTE] What you are assuming is that the military will never make a mistake. It's not a matter of who is shooting at them or not, it's a matter of imprisoning those who were suspected of trying to shoot at you, as you said, a hard task. It's not as simple as you are making it either. 'Shooting at you' is not a single thing our military defines as terrorism. [editline]10:09PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17968548]Still waiting for you to back up your claims about innocents getting picked at random and dragged away.[/QUOTE] They are innocent until proven guilty, which a court has to do.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968515]I support our military, and I trust they can decide who is shooting at them or not. Trials would be reasonable, but they would be hard to successfully execute. It's hard enough to capture the guy shooting at you, but to prove he was shooting at you to a judge is even harder.[/QUOTE] so what you're saying is: we shouldn't give them a trial because the trial might find them innocent?
hey boba fett you named your account after a starwars character and you are the worst poster on this forum never post again
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17968548]Still waiting for you to back up your claims about innocents getting picked at random and dragged away.[/QUOTE] They aren't given a trial. That's the end of it, nothing else needs to be proven.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17968531]I'm foolish because I don't say depressing things about the world I live in?[/QUOTE] someone's never had life come up behind them and hit them in the back of the head with a shovel oh innocence
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