• Insanity: CISPA Just Got Way Worse, And Then Passed On Rushed Vote
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[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;35727056]We didn't bother to make the effort to get up and protest it. Everybody's still patting themselves on the back for it and congratulating themselves for stopping SOPA. That's how it happens. We've brought this upon ourselves.[/QUOTE] to the majority of americans, any "awareness" is a fad. the country gets bombarded with enough of these fucking bills back to back, there isn't enough time to get everyone on board against it. SOPA had years compared to what CISPA had.
Even if these authoritarian surveillance based bills which pave the way for privacy invasion of regular citizens (and those in other countries!) with no warrant or need for proof-based suspicion made information available that saved a couple hundred people (long shot, I know!), I still don't think it would make it worthwhile allowing the breaching of the private lives of millions on a whim. It's about time for decentralisation of power methinks - check out Switzerland and their cantons - it's not perfect but it seems a damn sight better than any other "democratic" nation state.
[QUOTE=st_nick5;35726335]Might be wrong, but didn't they say that about the NDAA as well?[/QUOTE] You obviously lack a basic understanding of the NDAA. [editline]27th April 2012[/editline] Reading this thread makes my brain hurt. This is just as bad as YouTube or Fox News comments. I'm starting to question the intellectual ability of many of the members who have just posted here. Many seem to lack rudimentary logical brain processes that allow them to make coherent decision.
You're all a bunch of paranoid idiots. It's still got to go through Obama, who has personally stated multiple times he'd veto it, the Senate, which probably doesn't even know how to pass a bill anymore, and the Supreme court, which was created specifically to block stuff like this.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5jRewnxSBY[/media]
I'm kind of curious how many people have read the bill, let alone keep thinking that the government is going to go batshit with it and imprision everyone they find torrenting LMFAO's next album.
Just proves how completely messed up our country is. Our generation is represented in government by a bunch of corrupt 50-somethings who wouldn't know what a mouse is if your slapped them with one, let alone how the internet works.
[QUOTE=farmatyr;35727176][URL="http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/legislative/sap/112/saphr3523r_20120425.pdf"][B]EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT[/B] H.R. 3523 - Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act[/URL][/QUOTE]
Hey America, please stop. -From The Rest of the World.
Lets send out all the anti-social maniacs on to the streets! That'll do the world good.
I feel sorry for Americans who have to put up with all these proposed internet bills. Vote for SATIB today! (Stop All These Internet Bills).
[QUOTE=GameAdict;35748972]I feel sorry for Americans who have to put up with all these proposed internet bills. Vote for SATIB today! (Stop All These Internet Bills).[/QUOTE] You shouldn't feel sorry for americans, you should feel for most of first world. If one of these bills passes in US, same shit will be tried to be pushed in europe. As we saw with ACTA, they can be proposed and if it passes in US, it has quite some chance of sooner or later passing in EU or at least some eu countries. Even if it does not pass, these laws will affect international companies who reside in US and that is not good for consumers all over the world. A win in america strengthens media corporations, resistance only makes their penises harder.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;35728750]I still want to know how this means corruption. The government won't waste resources just Ito fuck you over for no reason. They'll obviously need to be suspicious of you in the first place or it would be expenive as hell[/QUOTE] Are you retarded? They aren't spending their money, it's the citizens money and they waste a shit ton of it on a daily basis.
Two-party political system: [B]Check.[/B] Trillion dollar debt: [B]Check.[/B] Allowing the population to own guns: [B]Check.[/B] Passing idiotic laws that nobody wants and pisses [i]everyone[/i] off: [B]Fucking Stupid[/B]
[QUOTE=Ericson666;35728750]I still want to know how this means corruption. The government won't waste resources just Ito fuck you over for no reason. They'll obviously need to be suspicious of you in the first place or it would be expenive as hell[/QUOTE] are you kidding this is a country where it's common practice to send expensive heavily armed SWAT teams to people's homes because they may or may not be growing a certain type of plant and/or be in possession of it's bud trimmings
Does the American congress consist of a bunch of apes that votes on exactly what the lobby tells them to?
at this point an up-and-coming politician could literally make a campaign promise to force a bill through that expressly forbids bills like these from ever happening and he'd win the president election instantly you guys should just amend the constitution with a "thou shalt not fuck with the internet in the interest of hollywood and big companies" thing
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;35726264]This won't pass the Senate, right? Right? D:[/QUOTE] Correct. The Senate has their own bill known only as the Senate Cybersecurity Bill. Unlike CISPA, Obama endorses this one. While the Senate's version is much more relaxed, I'd rather have neither.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;35751630]Does the American congress consist of a bunch of apes that votes on exactly what the lobby tells them to?[/QUOTE] Yeah mostly. It was bought and paid for a long time ago - that's how corporatocracy works :)
[QUOTE=Kwaq;35726259]how does something like this happen american system is so dumb, war needs to be wagered on these people[/QUOTE] Wagered? Like "I bet this guy will win" sort of wager? or did you mean waged?
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