• Obama defends right to build mosque near 9/11 site
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[QUOTE=Valnar;24055454]If the analogy is bad how can it convey a point?[/QUOTE] considering an analogy to be shitty is an opinion, no matter how shitty it may seem. also, just because it's a shitty analogy doesn't mean it cannot convey a point. For example, the analogy i used. The basic point it shows is that doing something like it would cause controversy (note that the latter statement is an opinion). The shitty part of the analogy according to others is that it uses the holocaust in the analogy or something like that, which is not related to the situation. [sp]i don't care if the last part is wrong shut up about it already[/sp]
[QUOTE=Lambeth;24055598]Hey I resent that [editline]12:51AM[/editline] average new yorker, sure[/QUOTE] I live in Ohio. You can imagine how redneck the people are here.
[QUOTE=Insulator;24055523]I don't think it was a smart political move on Obama's part. He should've remained neutral to the subject.[/QUOTE] this
[QUOTE=3picFail;24055616]considering an analogy to be shitty is an opinion, no matter how shitty it may seem. also, just because it's a shitty analogy doesn't mean it cannot convey a point. For example, the analogy i used. The basic point it shows is that doing something like it would cause controversy (note that the latter statement is an opinion). The shitty part of the analogy according to others is that it uses the holocaust in the analogy or something like that, which is not related to the situation. [sp]i don't care if the last part is wrong shut up about it already[/sp][/QUOTE]No. We're not going to shut up about it until our point penetrates your legendarily thick skull. Comparing [B]peaceful[/B] Muslims legally building a mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero (9/11 being as it was, a [B]politically motivated attack[/B]) is in no way comparable to skinheads, people who [B]actively praise Nazi racial ideology[/B], building a place of theirs in Israel. It's an absolutely moronic comparison and stinks of bigotry.
[QUOTE=EvilShadow777;24055618]I live in Ohio. You can imagine how redneck the people are here.[/QUOTE] ah I lived in ultra liberal maryland (before moving to canada)
[QUOTE=Lambeth;24055598]Hey I resent that [editline]12:51AM[/editline] average new yorker, sure[/QUOTE] New York and the north east in general are very tolerant and accepting. It's the south and the west.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;24055846]New York and the north east in general are very tolerant and accepting. It's the south and the west.[/QUOTE] California is not intolerant.
[QUOTE=starpluck;24056037]California is not intolerant.[/QUOTE] The coast being excluded of course.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;24055678]No. We're not going to shut up about it until our point penetrates your legendarily thick skull. Comparing [B]peaceful[/B] Muslims legally building a mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero (9/11 being as it was, a [B]politically motivated attack[/B]) is in no way comparable to skinheads, people who [B]actively praise Nazi racial ideology[/B], building a place of theirs in Israel. It's an absolutely moronic comparison and stinks of bigotry.[/QUOTE] the fact that i used nazis and isreal has [b]nothing[/b] to do with the point i was trying to make and yes, the situation at hand is in fact comparable in at least one way, as "no way", which is a very strong and inaccurate word to use. i'm going to say this again. [b]My point was that building a mosque near ground zero would cause controversy[/b] I do get your point, that it is not comparable contextually because they are two completely different situation involving completely different parties. I would Just like everyone else to understand that my point was intended to be understood as a hypothetical statement, not as a comparison of Nazis to muslims, or anything like that.
I like to visit New York and pray inside that mosque one day. [If it gets finished that is (and if I do get to visit New York one day)]
[i]"Our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable," Mr Obama said.[/i] I'm glad he's at least being responsible to our rights of religious freedom. It is surprising to me how many people do not understand that religious freedom is impossible without religious equality. Additionally, I'm exceedingly glad to have a President that actually accepts that this is an issue of religious freedom, and not of "sensitivity." If it were a church or a synagogue no one would say anything. Sure, the Saudis who flew the planes were Muslim, but in no way does that mean the people who would worship there share their ideals.
That's like building an Enola Gay museum next to the Hiroshima Peace memorial. Stupid, in poor taste, a result of severe lack of judgment. Btw, true Islam teaching is actually a lot closer to what the extremists preach than it is to the progressive muslims's beliefs. If you don't believe me, there are plenty of translations for the Quran on the internet. You can even cross reference them to check validity.
Anyone who supports the right for property and equality should support their right to build whatever they want.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;24056282]The coast being excluded of course.[/QUOTE] :smug: That's more like it.
I completely agree with Obama on this. Islam extremists hit the towers. Note [B]extremists[/B]. Not all Muslims.
woops a group allowed the building of a mosque that reminds people of the atrocity that happened blocks away, obama lets it through that's cool
[QUOTE=KarbineAlt;24063522]woops a group allowed the building of a mosque that reminds people of the atrocity that happened blocks away, obama lets it through that's cool[/QUOTE] More like reminds people the atrocity wasn't committed by the same people
Religious freedoms, people who are against this are a bunch of cunts. Should French people today burn down Anglican churches because of ancient French-English feuding? As much as the time lines are different, the point remains.
I'm anti religion but I'm rooting for the Muslims just because their pissing off christains who I hate even more.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;24063678]I'm anti religion but I'm rooting for the Muslims just because their pissing off christains who I hate even more.[/QUOTE] let's stack hate on top of hate. Perfect.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;24063678]I'm anti religion but I'm rooting for the Muslims just because their pissing off christains who I hate even more.[/QUOTE] You are just as bad as them(Them as in the idiots who don't belive in religious freedom)
Well to be honest i oppose all kinds of churches and mosques and whatnot.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;24055422]9/11 was never about converting the US to islam. The terrorist cells responsible never said "You must all praise allah", they said "We don't like your foreign policies in the middle east, change them or we'll keep attacking" It shouldn't be a fucking touchy subject and their faith played a minimal role in the reasons behind the attacks. (it played a role in how they plan/execute their attacks) Hell i think the daily show from thursday night even played a clip of bush saying that "Islam was a religion based on peace" and something along the lines about how we're after radicals. This issue should have been put to rest then.[/QUOTE] Repost.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;24063678]I'm anti religion but I'm rooting for the Muslims just because their pissing off christains who I hate even more.[/QUOTE] You hate christians because your parents are christian and you want nothing more than to rebel against them, right?
[QUOTE=Frisk;24053758]Good, glad to hear that Obama defends it. Those who think the mosque shouldn't be built, and are protesting it, are ignorant.[/QUOTE] I would like to know exactly what would've happened if Christian terrorists blew up the towers instead, and then ten years later a Christian organization tried to build a megachurch near ground zero. They would never let it go through. This is just a slap in the face to basically everyone and has no real purpose (they could've at least moved it farther away).
[QUOTE=Sir Muffin;24065329]I would like to know exactly what would've happened if Christian terrorists blew up the towers instead, and then ten years later a Christian organization tried to build a megachurch near ground zero. They would never let it go through. This is just a slap in the face to basically everyone and has no real purpose (they could've at least moved it farther away).[/QUOTE] lol They will let it through if it was a church.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;24063678]I'm anti religion but I'm rooting for the Muslims just because their pissing off christains who I hate even more.[/QUOTE] All aboard the hate train! Choo Choo!
[QUOTE=Sir Muffin;24065329]I would like to know exactly what would've happened if Christian terrorists blew up the towers instead, and then ten years later a Christian organization tried to build a megachurch near ground zero. They would never let it go through. This is just a slap in the face to basically everyone and has no real purpose (they could've at least moved it farther away).[/QUOTE] hahahah there are tons of churches around 9/11
3:18 PM - Xavier Nixon: Obama defends right to build mosque near 9/11 site 3:18 PM - Xavier Nixon: shitstorm y/y 3:18 PM - oh: badage boys 3:18 PM - oh: i bet 3:18 PM - Xavier Nixon: nope 3:18 PM - oh: oh wow
[QUOTE=Sir Muffin;24065329]I would like to know exactly what would've happened if Christian terrorists blew up the towers instead, and then ten years later a Christian organization tried to build a megachurch near ground zero. They would never let it go through. This is just a slap in the face to basically everyone and has no real purpose (they could've at least moved it farther away).[/QUOTE] impossible to know because a world where christain extremists blew up the towers would be completely different
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