• DVDs and Blu-rays will now carry two unskippable government warnings
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And they wonder why people pirate!
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35908181]Unskippable previews have become more of a rarity now, but I still find the occasional disc with them. Nowadays, however, I direct my frustration to the RIDICULOUS loading times for Blu-Ray movies because they spend so much time attempting to connect to the internet to download current information or a new trailer. On our standalone Blu-Ray player, it takes 2-4 minutes to get to the main menu of Avatar, 90% of which is spent staring at a "LOADING..." screen. My PS3 is thankfully much faster, but it's still ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Well, you bought it and you know what BluRays have nowadays, so if you dislike the service, stop buying them.
The only time I ever noticed these types of things was the first Red vs Blue DVD. [IMG]http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/Quinaquin/tumblr_m3ord4iGAB1qawmpho1_400.jpg[/IMG]
It's a simple psychology lesson really. Positive reinforcement works a lot better than negative. So saying 'please buy some stuff and thank you for buying' is better than saying 'ok you bought it, don't steal fuckass or we'll court martial you'. It's common courtesy really.
On my player if you hit the menu button at the right time you can skip all warnings.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;35908914]Well, you bought it and you know what BluRays have nowadays, so if you dislike the service, stop buying them.[/QUOTE] Not as practical as you'd think. I think a big issue is that there's really no competition to Blu-Ray ever since HD-DVD was knocked out. This has the major benefit of giving consumers a consistent library of movies (no bouncing between formats), but it also lets them get away with pretty much whatever they want. The alternative is to just flat-out stop buying movies and, if I'm being fully honest, I don't have the inclination to do so and I'd bet it's the same for just about everyone. [editline]11th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=xxfalconxx;35908957]It's a simple psychology lesson really. Positive reinforcement works a lot better than negative. So saying 'please buy some stuff and thank you for buying' is better than saying 'ok you bought it, don't steal fuckass or we'll court martial you'. It's common courtesy really.[/QUOTE] I don't know if it's this way outside of America, but it appears to be common practice in the movie, music and videogame industry to assume your customers are criminals until proven otherwise. Not exactly good for fostering trust or healthy business practices.
are they fucking dumb? people pirate movies just so they don't have previews and other bullshit burned in their retina
[quote](the new scheme requires all legal purchasers to sit through 20 seconds of warnings each time they pop in a film, but will be totally absent from pirated downloads and bootlegs)[/quote] Let me re-write that for you... [quote](the new scheme requires all legal purchasers to sit though one skippable legal warning with a big prominent warning that says "Piracy is illegal, don't support it. Visit [url]www.StopPiracy.gov[/url] to find out more". All company product advertising is being forced to part of the DVD/Blu-Ray when people can easily seek it out if they're interested instead of it being prominently displayed before the menus/movie each time the DVD/Blu-Ray put into the device for playback)[/quote]
not defending this stupid stuff, but with the way some of you are acting you must be really impatient i just get a drink of water or something while the dumb warnings play
[QUOTE=Hamsterjuice;35909132]not defending this stupid stuff, but with the way some of you are acting you must be really impatient i just get a drink of water or something while the dumb warnings play[/QUOTE] It's more the principle of the matter than it is the inconvenience. I can wait the extra few seconds just like the next guy but the fact that these warnings even exist on legal, store-bought products is just another slap in the face to customers. Businesses need to stop treating their customers as though they're criminals and instead say something like "Thank you for buying a legal version of this film. Enjoy the show!"
[QUOTE=koeniginator;35907873][url=http://i.imgur.com/GxzeV.jpg]obligatory[/url][/QUOTE] Stupid and over exaggerated. I get the point, but calm down. Most of the time you can skip to the main menu, plus special features and bonus footage is always cool if you get the dvd/bluray.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35909156]It's more the principle of the matter than it is the inconvenience. I can wait the extra few seconds just like the next guy but the fact that these warnings even exist on legal, store-bought products is just another slap in the face to customers. Businesses need to stop treating their customers as though they're criminals and instead say something like "Thank you for buying a legal version of this film. Enjoy the show!"[/QUOTE] fair enough
Why can't we just go back to VCR's? It was all so easy back then.
[QUOTE=MIPS;35909234]Why can't we just go back to VCR's? It was all so easy back then.[/QUOTE] I know you're just joking, but I remember those having previews and anti-piracy screens as well :v: I remember spending a frustratingly long time fast-forwarding through previews on both VCR and BetaMax. I don't remember if LaserDisc had these as well, though I don't think they did.
[QUOTE=MIPS;35909234]Why can't we just go back to VCR's? It was all so easy back then.[/QUOTE] No, we should go back to shadow puppets. Of course the government would probably want to around every fire and use sign language to spell out the whole warning, so it probably wouldn't save that much time anyway.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35909262]I know you're just joking, but I remember those having previews and anti-piracy screens as well :v: I remember spending a frustratingly long time fast-forwarding through previews on both VCR and BetaMax.[/QUOTE] It's too bad you don't remember, but we had [I][B]advanced pirate technology[/B][/I] for removing that junk from VHS tapes. [IMG]https://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgi5bzTEfy1qcyur4.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=koeniginator;35907873][url=http://i.imgur.com/GxzeV.jpg]obligatory[/url][/QUOTE] I like how the first one around it doesn't show you clicking the buttons on the remote. If you seriously care that much when going through previews then you need to take a pill.
Why can't they put the warnings after the credits / right before them?
Good job i don't buy dvds. Punishing those who do.. Haha.
[QUOTE=Amaurus;35909644]Why can't they put the warnings after the credits / right before them?[/QUOTE] they used to if i recall. i remember having one simpsons dvd that had literally a half-hour of different-language warnings.
Except piracy doesn't hurt the economy. It's like saying Gay Marriage will hurt american values The gaming industry saw profit profit profit profits when everyone else was struggling to break even, and Avengers just rolled in nearly a Billion dollars so far already. Totally hurting them, isn't it
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35908980]Not as practical as you'd think. I think a big issue is that there's really no competition to Blu-Ray ever since HD-DVD was knocked out. This has the major benefit of giving consumers a consistent library of movies (no bouncing between formats), but it also lets them get away with pretty much whatever they want. The alternative is to just flat-out stop buying movies and, if I'm being fully honest, I don't have the inclination to do so and I'd bet it's the same for just about everyone.[/QUOTE] Then you can't really complain because they aren't hiding these facts. You aren't forced to buy movies.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;35909919]Then you can't really complain because they aren't hiding these facts. You aren't forced to buy movies.[/QUOTE] I'm not forced to buy any luxury product, but why does that mean we shouldn't demand better? It's not asking much for the studios to stop treating their legal customers like dirt under the assumption that they're criminals until proven otherwise. Just because it's a luxury doesn't mean they should just get away with whatever they please. Hell, by your logic we shouldn't complain about draconian DRM on videogames because we're not forced to buy them.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;35909965]I'm not forced to buy any luxury product, but why does that mean we shouldn't demand better? It's not asking much for the studios to stop treating their legal customers under the assumption that they're criminals. Just because it's a luxury doesn't mean they should just get away with whatever they please. Hell, by your logic we shouldn't complain about draconian DRM on videogames because we're not forced to buy them.[/QUOTE] OK but it's not as if they are wronging or damaging you.
Eh, I don't care. Any time I put on a DVD or Blu ray, I always end up having left, say, my drink downstairs. By the time I got it, it's finished.
This is why i don't invest in movies, except for the few epics or mainstream successes. Also why i don't use commercial software anymore either. What would be the point? No other industry treats its customers like criminals and the criminals as their equals.
I enjoy my Blu-ray collection. Plus we don't have those unskippable warnings here in Norway.
so the government favors pirates over buyers?
Soon warnings will be replaced with 5min+ videos of why piracy is bad... And you can't skip it.
The next step is having giant red overlay text flashing on the screen during the movie saying "DO NOT PIRATE".
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