Military Coup in Zimbabwe: Mugabe under house arrest
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[quote]Harare - Zimbabwe's War Veterans Association says it has expelled President Robert Mugabe as its leader and has formed a revolutionary council to take over the ruling Zanu-PF party.
"We have completely disowned Mugabe," says the statement issued on Wednesday in Johannesburg by war veterans leader Chris Mutsvangwa.
The association of former fighters for independence is loyal to fired vice president Emmerson Mnangagwa, who says he has left Zimbabwe after threats. Mugabe accuses his former deputy of plotting to take power, which Mnangagwa denies.
The war veterans' statement uses language similar to that used by Mugabe's guerrillas during their fight against white minority-ruled Rhodesia in the 1970s.
more context in the source
Update: Mugabe under house arrest
[B]Impeachment process to begin as Mugabe remains defiant[/B]
[quote]Harare, Zimbabwe - Defiant President Robert Mugabe could lose his 37-year grip on Zimbabwe within days, with a motion to impeach him on Tuesday's parliament agenda introduced by the ruling ZANU-PF party.
The motion - which will be heard in a joint sitting of the lower and upper house - accuses Mugabe of being "the source of instability" within government and allowing his wife, First Lady Grace, to "usurp constitutional power".
As laid out in Section 97 (3) of the Constitution, once the Senate and National Assembly have passed a resolution confirming the president should be removed from office, Mugabe could be stripped of his wide-ranging powers that many citizens say have caused untold suffering and hardship.
Douglas Gumbo, 54, who participated in Saturday's mass march calling for Mugabe to resign, told Al Jazeera he was eager to watch the parliamentary session. House sittings are normally broadcast live on state television.
"He tried to run away from us on Sunday, but now he is cornered. It's game over for him and I just can't wait to see him and his wife go," he said.
Impeachment requires a two-thirds majority of both the senate and the national assembly.
While the governing ZANU-PF party, which has turned against its leader, holds a parliamentary majority, it may have to team up with opposition legislators to make up the required numbers.
Dozens of ZANU-PF MPs have fled the country or gone into hiding facing army detention, following a military crackdown targeting "criminals" surrounding the veteran leader.
Also on Tuesday, Emmerson Mnangagwa, the vice president Mugabe sacked on November 6, reportedly joined calls for the leader to resign.
"The people of Zimbabwe have spoken with one voice and it is my appeal to President Mugabe that he should take heed of this clarion call and resign forthwith so that the country can move forward and preserve his legacy," he said in a statement that has been circulating around local media.
[b]Update: Mugabe has resigned[/b]
I would not miss Mugabe a bit but let's at least hope it stays bloodless.
About damn time, Mugabe has proven the only thing he is competent at is trashing the country time and time again.
I want to say they couldn't do much worse than Mugabe but I made the same mistake when I said the same thing about Assad.
[QUOTE=download;52871139]I want to say they couldn't do much worse than Mugabe but I made the same mistake when I said the same thing about Assad.
Not a very fair comparison because Assad is still in power. The worsening came from the consequences of his decisions.
May I ask where you got that political bias thing from? I am interested in seeing what it says for other publications.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;52871641]May I ask where you got that political bias thing from? I am interested in seeing what it says for other publications.[/QUOTE]
click the pic and it will take you to it, Media Bias Fact Check
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52871696]click the pic and it will take you to it, Media Bias Fact Check[/QUOTE]
I tried that but the image is hosted on imgur and clicking it just expands the picture. Maybe it's because I am on mobile?
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;52871780]I tried that but the image is hosted on imgur and clicking it just expands the picture. Maybe it's because I am on mobile?[/QUOTE]
yeah that's it, getting the same thing on my phone
here's the link
It's also in the rules for Polidicks, it was put there for people to check unfamiliar sources with before they post.
Fuck Mugabe, good riddance and all, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how this is going to end. Since when has a military coup in an improverished and deeply corrupt country ended well?
Guardian article with more details
Wouldn't surprise me if Mugabe's health is failing and expelling Mnangagwa is just his wife making herself heir apparent before he kicks the bucket.
They aren't tanks, they're armoured personnel carriers
[editline]14th November 2017[/editline]
Still, it looks like the situation is escalating
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52889288]They aren't tanks, they're armoured personnel carriers[/QUOTE]
Armored personnel carriers make more sense in this context anyway, because you can't fill a tank with infantry to oust a shitty leader.
It's happening, soldiers have taken over the national broadcaster and explosions have been reported in the capital
[QUOTE=Amfleet;52870862]I would not miss Mugabe a bit but let's at least hope it stays bloodless.[/QUOTE]
This is Africa we are talking about
BBC link updated, Zimbabwean Army describing it as an "anti-crime" operation, shooting in the area of several official residences including Mugabe's.
I just hope this doesn't devolve into another odd power-vacuum conflict like the ones that happened in central africa. Depending on how widespread the violence gets this could potentially be a syria 2.0 with ethnic cleansing and all, right on S.A's borders. However I'm fairly sure zimbabwe is of little interest to the world's countries compared to elsewhere in africa, so this might not become a weird extension to a regional cold war like syria, unless China wants to get involved to show the continent just how strong and effective it is as a regional economic & strategic partner.
Maybe they knew Mugabe was on his last legs and possibly about to die, so they are acting now before his wife takes over.
It's probably going to end up with the army ruling as a junta
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52891902]It's probably going to end up with the army ruling as a junta[/QUOTE]
Given just [I]how [/I]shit Mugabe has been, this could be a significant step up for freedom and general well-being of the country. Not saying it will be, but it would have a hard time getting worse.
Army has taken over, Mugabe detained
Well, lets cross our fingers the junta being nicer than Mugabe.
Well, whoever's taking over will have to try pretty hard to do worse. It's possible, though.
This is the dude who executes gay people right? Hope the piece of shit gets the book smashed against his head, a monster of proportions that even challenges Rocket Man's rule.
Was about damm Time
Did you know, that when my sister was born (in 1999), the Zimbabwean literally, arbitrarily, decided that she wasn't allowed Zimbabwean citizenship? Not only was that a move that violates the UN Declaration of Human Rights, it also meant that to get her passport so she could emigrate to NZ with the rest of us, she had to take advantage of a bunch of clauses regarding UK citizenship and protected citizens.
Did you also know, that in 2006, my Zimbabwean citizenship was revoked, because the government revokes your citizenship if you're out of the country for more than 5 years? That led to me being stateless for 10 years until last year.
I'm not going to miss Mugabe and I'm not going to miss his government of meatheads with AKs.
Army has taken over, Mugabe detained[/QUOTE]
i wonder if it is going to stay as detention or if he'll get a neck extension
[editline]15th November 2017[/editline]
i guess he's in poor enough health that keeping him locked up would serve essentially the same purpose
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