• ​‘Afraid of Russia:’ German police arrest man after finding nuke-proof bunker full of weapons
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[IMG]http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/32/cc/70/00/4.si.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Police in Germany found a private nuclear-proof bunker made by a man who says he feared an attack from Russia. At least 140 different weapons were found in his “atomic safe” facility where he was planning to hide with his family.The 59-year old electrician has been arrested on charges of storing illegal weapons and explosives which he hid in his self-made bunker near his house in Kelheim municipality in Bavaria, southeastern Germany, All in all police confiscated 80 rifles, 60 handguns, two submachine guns, 20,000 rounds of ammunition and about 40 kilograms of substances for explosives production, [URL="https://www.polizei.bayern.de/lka/news/presse/aktuell/index.html/211173"]said[/URL] State Criminal Police Office (LKA). The court of Regensburg, a nearby city, said the man failed to provide any legal permit for his arsenal. The electrician managed to cement the weapons in the floor of his [I]“atomic safe shelter”[/I] and made 40-centimeter-thick walls. The man, identified only as Max S. by Germany's Bild newspaper, told police that he wanted to protect his family from possible nuclear attacks. According to the media outlet, he had 12 children. [I]"He was afraid of the threat posed by a large eastern European power. He was afraid of Russia,"[/I] a police spokesman told AFP.[/QUOTE] [url]http://rt.com/news/208071-germany-weapons-man-russia/[/url] He's like that old guy from hot fuzz but afraid of Russia
Bet they're gonna feel pretty stupid when the Russians invade.
How did he get caught?
how did he get some of those guns?
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46556636]how did he get some of those guns?[/QUOTE] The black market and contacts, probably (?) and it's possible that the old weapons had been in his family
Would that really survive a nuke?
There goes our last hope for humanity
How did the police even find his basement full of guns?
[QUOTE=helpiminabox;46556673]Would that really survive a nuke?[/QUOTE] If it's underground, yes. If it's within 1km of the blast, maybe not. Most of a nuclear weapons ferocity is in the shockwave, not the heat.
I wouldn't charge him with any crimes. If anything, he had an irrational fear but he posed literally no danger to others, maybe himself if he improperly handled the guns or whatever else he had. Plus most of those guns seem like they have historical quality to them. Make him apply for a collector's license if there is one in Germany for live firearms, and if not allow the man to decommission them himself and make a private or public collection. Problem solved, no one is hurt financially nor punished for any crimes, and everyone's happy because a believed public danger is dealt with.
[QUOTE=Swamplord;46556604]How did he get caught?[/QUOTE] He was going round clubs asking women if they'd like to see his massive bunker.
[QUOTE=helpiminabox;46556673]Would that really survive a nuke?[/QUOTE]40cm is nothing for an above-ground bunker, they put nuclear-hardened facilities underground for a reason. Above-ground bunkers that are hard-sealed usually are small and in soft ground, this is because the overpressure wave forces them down into the ground which acts as a shock absorber. Then when the vacuum from all of that hot, moving air kicks in it'll tug the bunker out of it's hole. This is a stupid fucking system though because your margin for error is tiny, anything close enough to experience this shit is close enough to be entirely obliterated anyway. Either way, I guarantee you that this guy's dinky little bunker has none of those capabilities and would definitely implode under the same circumstances. It would keep you safe from the fallout and the radiation though if it was out of the way or shielded from the blast, but so would a regular house that's been adequately sealed up. Though 40cm of concrete is tough to shoot through, so there is that, but I question the sense in building a fallout/blast shelter [i]above[/i] ground rather than digging a few meters down and having a truly safe bunker. Once you go underground your chances of survival skyrocket, and there's a certain point where the seismic shock is the only thing to be concerned about. (it's a nuke, there's going to be an earthquake that will rattle your shit apart) Unless [i]you're[/i] the target of course, then there's all sorts of tactical options that all end in you being fucked hard.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46556636]how did he get some of those guns?[/QUOTE] Same way you can get Russian SKS's in America. The lovely black market that exists north of our border. :v:
Holy fuck It took the police [b]3 FUCKING DAYS[/b] to get in :suicide:
How did he get the guns anyway
So this guy thought it too
[quote]The electrician managed to cement the weapons in the floor of his “atomic safe shelter” and made 40-centimeter-thick walls.[/quote] idk whats wrong with this then, its not like some kid is going to walk in there and shoot himself also am i wrong or does it seem like the police arrested him [B]after[/B] using jackhammers on his bunker
[QUOTE=Sableye;46557492][B]idk whats wrong with this then,[/B] its not like some kid is going to walk in there and shoot himself also am i wrong or does it seem like the police arrested him [B]after[/B] using jackhammers on his bunker[/QUOTE] Maybe because it's against the law?
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;46557040]40cm is nothing for an above-ground bunker, they put nuclear-hardened facilities underground for a reason. Above-ground bunkers that are hard-sealed usually are small and in soft ground, this is because the overpressure wave forces them down into the ground which acts as a shock absorber. Then when the vacuum from all of that hot, moving air kicks in it'll tug the bunker out of it's hole. This is a stupid fucking system though because your margin for error is tiny, anything close enough to experience this shit is close enough to be entirely obliterated anyway. Either way, I guarantee you that this guy's dinky little bunker has none of those capabilities and would definitely implode under the same circumstances. It would keep you safe from the fallout and the radiation though if it was out of the way or shielded from the blast, but so would a regular house that's been adequately sealed up. Though 40cm of concrete is tough to shoot through, so there is that, but I question the sense in building a fallout/blast shelter [i]above[/i] ground rather than digging a few meters down and having a truly safe bunker. Once you go underground your chances of survival skyrocket, and there's a certain point where the seismic shock is the only thing to be concerned about. (it's a nuke, there's going to be an earthquake that will rattle your shit apart) Unless [i]you're[/i] the target of course, then there's all sorts of tactical options that all end in you being fucked hard.[/QUOTE] It's not above ground.
snip can't edit post [editline]23rd November 2014[/editline] [video=youtube;Cun-LZvOTdw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cun-LZvOTdw[/video] just imagine a very scruffy bavarian farmer with a thick accent "schëëminienist...schdchchh" "schëëminen" "seemine" [editline]23rd November 2014[/editline] automerged
Here in the US we'd just do an episode of Doomsday Preppers on his collection and nuke proof bunker.
I hope the man doesn't get too long of a sentence, I mean after all, he was preserving those beautiful guns
I hope he at least left some room in the bunker for food, unless he can digest bullets.
Damn, lotta guns for just one guy. I mean I'm not saying you shouldnt have that many guns, but you cant carry them all.
[QUOTE=_Kent_;46558400]I hope he at least left some room in the bunker for food, unless he can digest bullets.[/QUOTE] [quote] "Police added that the electrician along with riffles, stored food supplies and even constructed whole underground air filtration and water treatment systems.[/quote] Shooty stuff
It's amazing how people can build up collections like these in Europe where finding a gun is nearly impossible. But it's also sad that every single one will be destroyed now that it's been seized, and he'll probably be put away for a long time.
It'd kill me to own that many guns with that much ammunition and never be able to fire them. [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;46558777]It's amazing how people can build up collections like these in Europe where finding a gun is nearly impossible. But it's also sad that every single one will be destroyed now that it's been seized, and he'll probably be put away for a long time.[/QUOTE] I always hate when people hoard historic guns (and other things) illegally and they have to be destroyed when they're caught.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;46558790]It'd kill me to own that many guns with that much ammunition and never be able to fire them. I always hate when people hoard historic guns (and other things) illegally and they have to be destroyed when they're caught.[/QUOTE] I've heard of a few cases where Historic guns that aren't made anymore are actually saved and given to museums and such, I think it was somewhere in Europe too.
[QUOTE=Pilot1215;46558597]Damn, lotta guns for just one guy. I mean I'm not saying you shouldnt have that many guns, but you cant carry them all.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't understand why people hoard weapons in preparation for SHTF because it's always seemed like a waste of time to me. I get collecting, fine with that, but when people specifically build an arsenal for fighting off "raiders" or something I'm like "so... that platoon-sized element you have enough weapons for, where are they going to come in?" People get mad when I question their shit, you can only reasonably use two or three long rifles if somebody else is loading for you, plus [i]what the fuck are you doing any of that anyway?[/i] You're supposed to be surviving, getting involved in firefights is the exact opposite of that goal. :l
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46557439]How did he get the guns anyway[/QUOTE] Black market most likely, and nobody would've known he had those guns...
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