• Nintendo Switch uses """Old School""" AC adapter
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I've never seen so much outrage over something so trivial, this is an absurd thread.
[QUOTE=Llamalord;51738380]I've never seen so much outrage over something so trivial, this is an absurd thread.[/QUOTE] yeah fuck people for getting irritated over a backwards decision that causes a pretty big inconvenience
[QUOTE=Llamalord;51738380]I've never seen so much outrage over something so trivial, this is an absurd thread.[/QUOTE] It's a stupid fucking design decision that has zero reason to exist. You're the absurd one
[QUOTE=Llamalord;51738380]I've never seen so much outrage over something so trivial, this is an absurd thread.[/QUOTE] gamers get upset over the dumbest things
[QUOTE=Llamalord;51738380]I've never seen so much outrage over something so trivial, this is an absurd thread.[/QUOTE] When I'm having trouble doing something simple as [I]plugging in a device[/I] purely because a company made a stupid decision, yeah, I'm going to complain.
It doesn't really look that wide, mostly tall.
[QUOTE=Billy2600;51737976]Time to buy one of these: [t]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41-lCOfUgOL.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] I want these. That being said I have a power strip designed to handle the block on plug style power supplies, extra wide spaces between the plugs and a line of normally spaced plugs in the middle. Things awesome
[QUOTE=Llamalord;51738380]I've never seen so much outrage over something so trivial, this is an absurd thread.[/QUOTE] It's a trivial annoyance, but it's also trivial for them to fix, too. You don't have to deal with this with other consoles, or even computers. None I'm aware of, at least. Just Nintendo. It's like a coffee place that doesn't provide those cardboard cup sleeves. Sure, it's not a big deal, but it's a noticeable annoyance that everyone else has fixed.
This is about the size of the old mains to lv-ac transformer with no other components other than a fuse, hbridge, and a capacitor, plus maybe a linear regulator. I know switching power supplies can be made smaller than that.
I don't care about the size so much as the fucking [I]price[/I]. Did you know that that thing is [B]$29.99[/B]? I really want to get a second dock set (which includes one of these AC adapters) so I can have an extra ready to travel with, but that's [B]$89.99[/B]. Ninety bucks for a dock, AC adapter, and an HDMI cable. They're mental if they think these prices are reasonable. The Nintendo Switch itself is priced reasonably, but everything else is so horribly expensive.
Nintendo had old bricks laying in a warehouse they needed to get rid of.
[QUOTE=Shugo;51738734]I don't care about the size so much as the fucking [I]price[/I]. Did you know that that thing is [B]$29.99[/B]? I really want to get a second dock set (which includes one of these AC adapters) so I can have an extra ready to travel with, but that's [B]$89.99[/B]. Ninety bucks for a dock, AC adapter, and an HDMI cable. They're mental if they think these prices are reasonable. The Nintendo Switch itself is priced reasonably, but everything else is so horribly expensive.[/QUOTE] That's roughly the same price as an Xbox One AND Xbox 360 power brick. Actually, those bricks are around $50 even nowadays. Even if it has a lower power draw, I think that the price of $29.99 is pretty fair in comparison, especially if they aren't pulling any extra bullshit like not packaging it with the dock set. plus, having an extra dock for travel negates the main function of the switch lmao. edit: If i'd have one critique, it would be that they didn't put this brick inside the dock. There's so much extra space in that fucking thing, like seriously nintendo? it'd make eons more sense than this. [t]http://i.imgur.com/tCYjClD.png[/t] [B]WHY[/B]
[QUOTE=Vassikin;51737818]I wish they'd just stick with one cable/power supply like Sony. I can easily switch out my PS3 and PS4 without having to mess around with different power cables, and IIRC the PS2's power brick also uses the same cable.[/QUOTE] Lots of musical equipment has the transformer inside the main case so that you can just use that one type of cable for everything: [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/IEC_60320_C13.svg/269px-IEC_60320_C13.svg.png[/IMG] And of course PCs and lots of other devices use the same one but when you've got a bunch of gear and amps and shit hooked up in the same place it's great, but some companies like Korg insist on specific adapters that just make things difficult.
[QUOTE=mark6789;51737715]how stupid. I hate these things with a passion. The AVGN makes this point clear. We live in 2017 we shouldnt have these anymore. Make the brick apart of the console or separate part like the XBox.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I get annoyed by the power brick on my 360 and laptop charger, but I'd prefer that over having to hope I find an outlet where someone's not using the bottom section.
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;51738839]plus, having an extra dock for travel negates the main function of the switch lmao.[/QUOTE] I often bring consoles over to my friends' places for parties and general multiplayer hangouts (since my own place is too small to have a lot of people over). I'm not going to prop up a little tablet and have everyone huddle around that when there's a big TV behind it. Or, in the case of one of my friends, a giant projector screen in a roomy living room. It's rather annoying having to get behind my TV to rip out all the cables I need to bring with me when I could just have a second set of cables dedicated for traveling (which is exactly what I got for my Wii U). If I'm going to bring the Switch to a friend's place, I'd like to have a second dock/cable set ready to go. It shouldn't be hard to imagine why someone would want another dock set.
Why, in a time where a home without at least one power-strip might as well be a unicorn, do some companies think it's still even remotely acceptable to put the power brick into the plug?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;51740029]Why, in a time where a home without at least one power-strip, do some companies think it's still even remotely acceptable to put the power brick into the plug?[/QUOTE] The only reason I can fathom is that it saves a few pennies. Apparently that extra foot of wire is too much. Which is ironic, because the Wii U came with TWO bricks that didn't attach to the wall.
[QUOTE=redBadger;51738341][t]http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/07/075cbb2d-67f5-404b-bee7-962e0712de4e_400.jpg[/t] There is literally only one spot on that strip that the brick can utilize.[/QUOTE] I would have thought the sockets would be in the same orientation as the american wall sockets I've seen (that is rotated 90 degrees), no wonder you guys gets products that don't fit properly, pretty much all the socket types I've seen keep the same orientation reguardless if they're on a wall or an extension lead.
Everything that surrounds the 2 games I want for this console is such a misery.
[QUOTE=Ridge;51738779]Nintendo had old bricks laying in a warehouse they needed to get rid of.[/QUOTE] What old bricks? They had the Brick in the middle of the cable in every single console except the N64, where it was at the console. Why are they doing this now? I mean its not that bad... but I don't exactly get why now.
[QUOTE=MaGGiFiXXX;51740226]I mean its not that bad... but I don't exactly get why now.[/QUOTE] It is quite bad. Not only is it a very strange and stupid decision to have the brick at the outlet, it is also a huge inconvenience for a lot of people.
Its probably to do with portability, why carry a brick plus 2 different cables when you can have the one cable with the brick on the plug. [sp]Personally I don't think it looks that bad and the plug still looks small enough[/sp]
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;51738839]That's roughly the same price as an Xbox One AND Xbox 360 power brick. Actually, those bricks are around $50 even nowadays. Even if it has a lower power draw, I think that the price of $29.99 is pretty fair in comparison, especially if they aren't pulling any extra bullshit like not packaging it with the dock set. plus, having an extra dock for travel negates the main function of the switch lmao. edit: If i'd have one critique, it would be that they didn't put this brick inside the dock. There's so much extra space in that fucking thing, like seriously nintendo? it'd make eons more sense than this. [t]http://i.imgur.com/tCYjClD.png[/t] [B]WHY[/B][/QUOTE] Im not super familiar with the switch design, but my guess is that they intend you to be able to charge it using the same plug with or without the dock. The plug needs to have the power converter on it in order to be able to power both the switch and it's dock through one cable. Only valid reason i can imagine.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;51740430]Im not super familiar with the switch design, but my guess is that they intend you to be able to charge it using the same plug with or without the dock. The plug needs to have the power converter on it in order to be able to power both the switch and it's dock through one cable. Only valid reason i can imagine.[/QUOTE] I imagine this is correct. That looks like a USB-C port on the dock.
[QUOTE=Chryseus;51740200]I would have thought the sockets would be in the same orientation as the american wall sockets I've seen (that is rotated 90 degrees), no wonder you guys gets products that don't fit properly, pretty much all the socket types I've seen keep the same orientation reguardless if they're on a wall or an extension lead.[/QUOTE] There are many different types of strips for all sorts of orientations. I just pulled a quick one off google.
[QUOTE=Chryseus;51740200]I would have thought the sockets would be in the same orientation as the american wall sockets I've seen (that is rotated 90 degrees), no wonder you guys gets products that don't fit properly, pretty much all the socket types I've seen keep the same orientation reguardless if they're on a wall or an extension lead.[/QUOTE] Its funny because they make powerbricks that are long and narrow sideways to fix that issue. Problem is, they make power strips like this, to solve the same problem and end up canceling each other out. :v: [img]http://www.excitron.com/webdocs/photos/AC_strip1.jpg[/img] Not even buying a powerstrip is a simple affair here.
A tad unrelated but it'd be cool if the Switch supported external HDD's like the Xbox One
[QUOTE=MaGGiFiXXX;51740226]What old bricks? They had the Brick in the middle of the cable in every single console except the N64, where it was at the console. Why are they doing this now? I mean its not that bad... but I don't exactly get why now.[/QUOTE] The NES and SNES has a brick on the socket end of the power cable too. Really all these bricks do is step down 120/240v AC to 9-12v DC and then in the console a 7805 or similar linear regulator drops that to a constant 5v. This is because going 120/240v AC to 5v DC inside a console in the 80's and 90's was a recipe for the heat death of the passive-only cooled console, but stepping 9-12v DC to 5v DC isn't that bad. In a modern console, with modern designed transformers and shit, there's no reason this can't be inside the dock or smaller/off the plug however.
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;51740580]The NES and SNES has a brick on the socket end of the power cable too. Really all these bricks do is step down 120/240v AC to 9-12v DC and then in the console a 7805 or similar linear regulator drops that to a constant 5v. This is because going 120/240v AC to 5v DC inside a console in the 80's and 90's was a recipe for the heat death of the passive-only cooled console, but stepping 9-12v DC to 5v DC isn't that bad. In a modern console, with modern designed transformers and shit, there's no reason this can't be inside the dock or smaller/off the plug however.[/QUOTE] Not in the EU. The Standard PAL Nes and Snes Power Cable was this one. [img_thumb]http://www.nightfallcrew.com/wp-content/gallery/super-nintendo-pal-eur/IMG_2025.jpg[/img_thumb]
[QUOTE=NixNax123;51737700]wait how is this old school? my current laptop uses this and I don't know of any other kind of adapter (not saying it isn't old school, but i haven't had any recent piece of tech lately so i'm curious)[/QUOTE] Most of the ones I see now a days have the large bit in the middle of the cord just to avoid this problem [t]http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11613105/Dell_PA2__PA_2__PA6__PA_6__AC_Power_Adapter___Charger_With_Pow.jpg[/t]
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